Stephen Rivers to LSU

8/6/2010 3:52:00 PM

unless Michael Vick comes back to VT anytime soon i don't know how a VT fan can feel safe

8/6/2010 4:00:04 PM

^^ Damn that sucks. Can't blame him for wanting to go to a top-10 program though.

8/6/2010 4:01:20 PM

they aren't exactly the top 10 material that they were a few years ago. But I catch your drift.

I wouldn't want to follow my brother's footsteps either. Feeling like the fans would expect you to be Philip every game.

[Edited on August 6, 2010 at 4:10 PM. Reason : ]

8/6/2010 4:08:59 PM

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"they aren't exactly the top 10 material "

yeah they still are.

8/6/2010 4:18:05 PM

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"Feeling like the fans would expect you to be Philip every game."

that would definitely happen too

8/6/2010 4:20:48 PM

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"they aren't exactly the top 10 material that they were a few years ago."

Name me 10 programs that have been better than LSU in the past decade or so? UF, USC, Texas, Ohio State, maybe Alabama or Oklahoma. They are a top-10 program until they consistently are mediocre for a few consecutive years like Notre Dame or FSU.

They may not be top-10 in 2010-2011, but they'll be back up in the rankings probably by 2011-2012.




[Edited on August 6, 2010 at 5:07 PM. Reason : xc]

8/6/2010 5:05:46 PM

They were a top 10 team when Saban was there. Not so sure Miles is going to be able to maintain thier prestige


[Edited on August 6, 2010 at 6:18 PM. Reason : And before you say he won a NC, so did Coker. Miles may not last out the season there]

8/6/2010 6:17:37 PM

Doesn't matter what happens down the road, but currently it is still a top 10 program in the country. Look at recruiting classes, record over the past 5 years, 10 years, bowl wins, 2 NC? whatever else.

Top 5? No, but name 10 that are more prestigious at the moment.

8/7/2010 9:36:44 AM

Oh.

My.

God.


I knew we were behind.....but THIS behind!

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/430735-the-15-worst-college-football-recruiting-classes-in-the-bcs-conferences#page/1

wow

8/7/2010 8:02:30 PM

1) it's bleacher report, why would you ever read that tripe?

2) signing day is 6 months away

3) prepare to overreact, immediately

8/7/2010 8:28:54 PM

We dont have anyone signed to actively recruit fellow players like we did with crisp and glennon....not fucked yet, but not doing well.

8/7/2010 8:53:44 PM

i understand what you're saying about rivers coming here, and i think it's true. also, if i didn't go here, i would for sure go to play at LSU instead of here. HOWEVER, LSU expects to win every game.

8/7/2010 9:48:50 PM

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/430735-the-15-worst-college-football-recruiting-classes-in-the-bcs-conferences#page/16

8/7/2010 10:27:16 PM

^seriously dude, can you not see that the same exact link is posted 4-5 posts above yours?

at least read the last PAGE of the thread you are about to post in

8/7/2010 10:38:54 PM

wow, you couldn't even see the link 4 posts up from yours?

8/7/2010 10:39:20 PM

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/430735-the-15-worst-college-football-recruiting-classes-in-the-bcs-conferences#page/16

8/8/2010 1:03:22 AM

OMG now it's only THREE posts above.


Don't be inflammatory in the sports thread

8/8/2010 1:12:16 AM

OMG!!!!1111one

[Edited on August 8, 2010 at 1:17 AM. Reason : .]

8/8/2010 1:16:58 AM

Hey! Did you know that ECU has a really big scoreboard?

Seriously, why is the troll still here?

8/8/2010 1:41:39 AM

8/8/2010 2:01:09 AM

I haven't seen this posted on here yet but it seems we have a walk on Punter/Kicker with a decent leg.

Chris Hawthorne (6'6 185) - the boy can kick off.

Here are a few links from another site:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGCg9WeH9rA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...feature=related

[Edited on August 8, 2010 at 9:11 AM. Reason : linky]

8/8/2010 9:11:03 AM

Have you guys read this sites policy about users with less that 1000 posts?

8/8/2010 9:52:27 AM

quarterback Vad Lee from Durham Hillside had originally planned on a verbal Saturday at Hillside’s scrimmage.

Instead he visited Wake Forest Saturday us today. Word is he tried to commit to GT but Paul said no unless he canceled his other visits.

Durham sources say the kid will not go that far from home and sign with State but GT sources are supremely confident on a GT commitment. He should be decided in the next couple of weeks.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Vad-Lee-93570

8/8/2010 5:04:41 PM

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"Name me 10 programs that have been better than LSU in the past decade or so? UF, USC, Texas, Ohio State, maybe Alabama or Oklahoma."

That's a whole different argument. Of course I'm not gonna argue that they're one of the top-10 teams in the past decade. I was referring to the past few years.

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"They are a top-10 program until they consistently are mediocre for a few consecutive years like Notre Dame or FSU."

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Records:
2008: 8-5
2009: 9-4

Each of the previous three seasons before the 2008 season, they finished with double-digit wins (11, 11, and 12). So to say that they have dropped off somewhat since then would be accurate.

The past two seasons they have stayed in the top-10 for the first half of the season, mostly due to pre-season polls and winning their cupcake games and a few conference games, such as:

App. St
North Texas
Miss. St.
Vanderbilt
mediocre-Auburn teams
Louisiana-Lafayette

Then they have gotten to the 2nd half of the season and lost some conference games and fell out of the top-10. Actually, in 2008, they dropped out of the top-25 completely and didn't finish the season ranked with a 7-5 regular season record.

So my point is that sure they were good in '07 when they won the NC. But since then they have lost their top-10 edge that they used to have.

8/9/2010 10:58:35 AM

I'll never understand why anyone would read BleacherReport.

8/9/2010 11:05:35 AM

^^ You are using a 2 year window to back up your argument.. during that time they had some off field issues at QB which obviously affected their team and recruiting, if Ryan Perrilloux doesn't get kicked off the team who knows what happens. They've had top 10 recruiting classes during that time so it isn't like the recruiting matched a drop on the field, they are still putting together recruiting classes that only top 10 programs can put together. Not to mention if they beat Penn St. last year in their bowl game which they really should have they would have finished last year in the top 10. I'd agree with you if their recruiting classes started to look like ours, but that simply isn't the case.

You sound like a 4th grader that has no concept of time. "The top 10 edge they USE to have..." it was just 3 seasons ago they won a national championship. Acting like they are Notre Dame and nobody they are recruiting was alive to see their NC.

I guess a few though to you is 2?

Once again, name 10 programs you'd put ahead of them.

8/9/2010 11:25:53 AM

In no particular order:

Florida
Texas
Ohio St.
USC
Oklahoma
Alabama
Virginia Tech
Penn State
Iowa
Boise State

Right now, these programs are who I'd rank ahead of LSU, based on the last two seasons and heading into the upcoming season. They have had and still have a top-10 "edge" to them which, to me, means any one of them either have contended and/or could contend for the title.

Yeah, recruiting is important. But UCLA has had monster recruiting classes recently too. Would you consider them a top-10 program? You think Boise State gives a shit about recruiting rankings?

How about Florida winning the basketball championship in '06 and '07? Are they still a top 10 b-ball program or have they fallen off since then?

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"I guess a few though to you is 2? "

I'm sorry, how many is a few to you? Because I understand it to mean a small value, like less than 5. I could use the word "couple" if it makes you feel better.

Don't get me wrong - I still think highly of LSU. Their program prestige is elite level and they are using it for top-level recruits. But based on what I've seen on the field recently, I'd rank them in the 11-15 range, not top-10.

8/9/2010 1:00:35 PM

I think you're having trouble discerning between the terms "top 10 team" and "top 10 program"

8/9/2010 1:28:41 PM

^^ Done with it, I could write an essay and back it up with why LSU is a top 10 program(the ONLY thing your backing your claim up with is basically 1 down season, and once again last year there were a fringe top 10 team and would have been if they beat Penn St). And once again if they prize QB doesn't flake out who knows what happens. Obviously recruiting classes isn't the only thing, but if you are talking top 10 program you have to look at everything, recruiting, record, bowls, conference, etc.

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"Iowa"

So let me get this straight, LSU wins a national championship and then goes 8-5 and 9-4 and they AREN'T a top 10 program, yet Iowa goes 7-5, 6-7, 6-6, 9-4, 11-2 over the past 5 seasons and they are? I didn't know finishing tied for 4th in the Big 10 and getting an Outback bowl win was what top 10 programs are made of.

8/9/2010 2:30:28 PM

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"I think you're having trouble discerning between that this is a state recruiting thread "

[Edited on August 9, 2010 at 2:56 PM. Reason : ]

8/9/2010 2:52:12 PM

right, because there is a ton of relevant recruiting info to discuss.

8/9/2010 3:13:49 PM

i don't know why there's so much anti LSU going on in this thread, but LSU is fucking legit.

8/9/2010 3:32:50 PM

^It's not anti LSU, it's pro UNC for their season opener

8/9/2010 9:45:31 PM

Pro UNC? wtf?

8/9/2010 10:36:51 PM

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"this is a state recruiting thread"

8/9/2010 10:43:05 PM

^^^ I don't give a shit if you're kidding or not. Fuck UNC or gtfo. GO PACK!!!

8/10/2010 12:58:10 AM

^^ yea, well, call me when there's some fucking news on that end

8/10/2010 6:36:58 AM

why is our recruiting so awful. someone give me the 3 condensed reasons without using the words "suck", "lose", or "shit".

8/10/2010 8:24:38 AM

^

1. We haven't had any recent success.

2. TOB has the personality of a wall and has never been a great recruiter.

3. We haven't had many players go the NFL in the past few years so our only recruiting pitch is fuhcilities.

8/10/2010 9:30:11 AM

^ you suck at life.

8/10/2010 10:55:29 AM

^ What did I post that is incorrect ass hat.

8/10/2010 11:13:52 AM

In spite of our lackluster record, I am still a little puzzled at our slow start with recruiting this year.

8/10/2010 2:03:55 PM

Maurice Morgan has reportedly committed to State.

8/11/2010 10:39:01 AM

^nice, it's been too long since the last commitment.

8/11/2010 10:46:03 AM

Pound for pound, Maurice Morgan from North Lenoir High in La Grange, N.C., is one of the best athletes in the 2011 recruiting class. At a Shrine Bowl combine in May, Morgan checked in at 6-foot-2, 212 pounds and blistered a 40-yard dash in 4.38 seconds.

8/11/2010 11:58:31 AM

prepare for another whinefest because he's only a 2*

8/11/2010 12:00:36 PM

you cant teach speed

8/11/2010 12:07:53 PM

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"is one of the best athletes in the 2011 recruiting class."

Then why make a claim like this?

8/11/2010 12:24:22 PM

^thewolfpacker.com made that claim

8/11/2010 12:28:24 PM