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"Nothing more, nothing less."

Sorry, I really doubt you're in a position to make that claim. It could be something more. Or something less. He might not of mentinoned us because he's wants to surprise everybody. Or he might not have mentioned us because Sid got mad and called him an attention-whore and he wrote us off. You don't know. I don't either.

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"NC State basketball is so depressing right now. I'd almost give my left nut to hear something positive, especially in recruiting."

We've got a great recruiting class coming in in 2009, top 20. How's that?

4/1/2009 5:22:45 PM

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"Oh please, John Wall would jerk off to most of the stuff written about him on this message board, and packpride too. I mean, somehow we were in the picture with 3 of the top 5 recruits in the country against the likes of Duke, Memphis and some other stellar programs with top notch coaching and somehow we can boil down him not choosing us because of the fanbase??"

fucking seriously

granted I don't browse many other schools' message boards but you people play that fucking "it's our horrible fanbase" card way too much. Other schools are just as bad as we are, and I wouldn't even call us "bad," we're just a very passionate fanbase - you have to take the bad with the good - traveling well, high attendance/giving levels in spite of the shitty state of our athletic performance, etc

4/1/2009 5:24:44 PM

^^Sure, it could be any number of things. My point was that the possibility exists for a thousand things to be the cause for them not wanting to come here anymore and then some dude up there wants to make it out like it was because of packpride and TWW that they aren't coming anymore.

Nothing more and nothing less was an exaggeration, but those seem like the most likely reasons, no?

[Edited on April 1, 2009 at 5:26 PM. Reason : ^^]

4/1/2009 5:25:45 PM

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"NC State basketball is so depressing right now. I'd almost give my left nut to hear something positive, especially in recruiting."

how about we have a guy coming in year after next who is probably the best PG prospect we've had in the past decade?

4/1/2009 5:40:18 PM

If he ever comes here.

4/1/2009 5:41:55 PM

he will be here as long as lowe is the coach and Brown is here

4/1/2009 5:48:21 PM

I told you fuckers

4/1/2009 6:21:45 PM

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"how about we have a guy coming in year after next who is probably the best PG prospect we've had in the past decade?"

Am I the only one who isn't that impressed with this?

So this guy is better than Atsur or Justin Gainey?

WOFPACK WINZ!

4/1/2009 6:25:12 PM

^ haha, yeah seriously.

4/1/2009 6:26:34 PM

^back for some more online purgation i see.

4/1/2009 6:46:14 PM

Already posted but congrats again to Harrow for winning Mr. Basketball of Cobb County as a junior. He beat out ACC-bound seniors such as:

http://northcarolinastate.scout.com/a.z?s=178&p=8&c=1&nid=3111236
http://northcarolinastate.scout.com/a.z?s=178&p=8&c=1&nid=3499097
http://northcarolinastate.scout.com/a.z?s=178&p=8&c=1&nid=3139829

I assume his ranking will increase eventually.

4/1/2009 6:51:53 PM

...and ZoBrown recently won Georgia's 5A POY.

That's kinda impressive, right?

4/1/2009 7:04:35 PM

and Rashard Smith won the AA POY award and the AA championship

4/1/2009 7:08:11 PM

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"If we aren't in the conversation anymore, it's because we just finished 10th in the ACC, our prospects for next year aren't all that great and we have a coach who hasn't proven he can win yet. Nothing more, nothing less"

Whoa now. We have a nice class coming in that is ranked #20 in the nation. It is a solid class that will definitely elevate the program, especially with the arrival of Harrow the following year.

4/1/2009 7:44:00 PM

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"Oh please, John Wall would jerk off to most of the stuff written about him on this message board, and packpride too."

And then when he reads our fans' posts ripping into every player every time they have a bad game, incessantly calling for our coaches' heads, it's gotta make them think.

Then the posts calling into question the character of various recruits. how many times have people called john wall a thug? i don't think he "jerks off" to that kind of stuff.

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"I mean, somehow we were in the picture with 3 of the top 5 recruits in the country against the likes of Duke, Memphis and some other stellar programs with top notch coaching and somehow we can boil down him not choosing us because of the fanbase?? Fuck that. If we aren't in the conversation anymore, it's because we just finished 10th in the ACC, our prospects for next year aren't all that great and we have a coach who hasn't proven he can win yet. Nothing more, nothing less."

when we were in the picture with said recruits, were we doing markedly better?

no. In fact, we showed significant improvement in our play as a team in the final month of the season, around the same time the wheels fell off the recruiting bus. I'm not saying it's solely our fan base that's driving them away, but certainly our fanbase hurts more than it helps.

4/1/2009 7:49:41 PM

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"certainly our fanbase hurts more than it helps"

100% absolute bullshit

4/1/2009 7:52:18 PM

...This is why you go after the top rated players. Because when you whiff on them people are pissed that you have one of the better incoming classes, as just having one of the better incoming classes becomes an accepted fact.

If our incoming class looked like this http://virginiatech.scout.com/a.z?s=191&p=9&c=8&cfg=bb&yr=2009 but we hit all our targets would anyone really give a shit about recruiting?

No, and then we'd hear BS about the great coaching job our coach did to get a bunch of scrubs to the NIT

4/1/2009 7:54:34 PM

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"^back for some more online purgation i see."

you are the only dumbass still holding on to hopes for John Wall.

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"how many times have people called john wall a thug?"

How many times? I've never seen anyone post that he is a thug.

[Edited on April 1, 2009 at 8:03 PM. Reason : []

4/1/2009 8:00:59 PM

dear john wall,
i just wanted to let you know that you would look much better in red than you would blue or green.

thanks

4/1/2009 10:25:42 PM

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"you are the only dumbass still holding on to hopes for John Wall."

never give up. never give up.

4/1/2009 10:34:03 PM

after watching the latest Ryan Harrow video, does he remind anyone else of Jeff Teague? I haven't seen Ryan shoot the 3 as much as Jeff, but his ball handling and aggressiveness really impress me. His size and play style I think are comparable to Jeff's

4/1/2009 10:40:02 PM

I watched that video on wolfpackhoops today and thought the exact same thing. He's got some serious hops and quick hands on D.

4/1/2009 10:41:43 PM

i think we have some sort of a shot,

better than we had a week ago

[Edited on April 1, 2009 at 11:19 PM. Reason : d]

4/1/2009 11:19:10 PM

awesome interview with scott wood on wolfpackhoops. can't wait for next year. i'm not expecting a great team, but i am excited to see the new guys and a team that plays hard all game, every game.

4/2/2009 12:34:57 AM

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"probably discovered tww and thought the shit some of the turds spew on here was represenative of all of our fans."

Quote :

"granted I don't browse many other schools' message boards but you people play that fucking "it's our horrible fanbase" card way too much. Other schools are just as bad as we are, and I wouldn't even call us "bad," we're just a very passionate fanbase - you have to take the bad with the good - traveling well, high attendance/giving levels in spite of the shitty state of our athletic performance, etc"

aimorris with a great point. People like Mr Grace dwell on it like it affects things.

Our fan base is so bad that John Wall wants to go to Kentucky, possibly the best basketball school ever and play for one of the best coaches in the game over NC State a team that hasn't made the NCAAs in three years and has a coach who has not proven he can win.

Come on.

4/2/2009 12:45:19 AM

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"Wall said on Monday that Memphis, then coached by Calipari, was his leader among a list that also includes N.C. State, Duke, Baylor, Kansas and Miami."

http://www.newsobserver.com/sports/story/1468311.html

From this morning's paper, I think it was Ernie that wanted to see our name on the list in a Wall article. originally.

[Edited on April 2, 2009 at 8:44 AM. Reason : .]

4/2/2009 8:42:46 AM

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"Am I the only one who isn't that impressed with this? So this guy is better than Atsur or Justin Gainey? WOFPACK WINZ!"

hahah...Panthro is not impressed by one of the best PG recruits in the nation is so laughable.
apparently you dont follow this kind of stuff b/c if you did you see how ridiculous that post is.

Harrow is our best PG recruit since Corch...dont get it twised. Next year Ryan will be an elite player with more national hype, a 5 Star recruit and def a top 30 player

4/2/2009 11:50:29 AM

...and then he'll decommit and packpride will implode.

4/2/2009 11:54:31 AM

this kid has way too much character for that.

him and his family has said that as long as Sidney Lowe is our coach then he will be our PG

he comes from a very high character family also

4/2/2009 11:58:12 AM

I don't know about 5 stars, he's at 3 now so maybe he'll get bumped to 4. And he'll be a top 30 player for his position, not overall

4/2/2009 12:01:18 PM

^and are you only saying that cause he's a 3 star now?

4/2/2009 12:03:33 PM

he's good. real good.

we'll see all about that star stuff next year.

4/2/2009 12:21:22 PM

^^ Harrow made the All-State team... as a JUNIOR... and last I check there's a lot of great players coming out of GA. Having seen his videos, I think it's fair to say he's underrated. The dude is damn near impossible to stop off the dribble. At 150 lbs I imagine his size isn't helping his recruiting rankings, but you don't have to be a big guy to be a great PG.

One thing I'll give Lowe props for is that his staff definitely has put to rest claims that it has an "inability to spot talent" at the PG/SG position. Brown looks solid, Harrow looks nasty, and Wood is a definite sleeper. Can't wait to get 'em each in a Wolfpack uniform.

4/2/2009 12:47:14 PM

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"And he'll be a top 30 player for his position, not overall"

only time will tell so as of right now we have to agree to disagree

after all the tape i have watched of this kid ... hes the real deal and he will be a top player next year across the board not just at his position

we found a real gem in Ryan Harrow.

4/2/2009 12:47:40 PM

he also beat out Ari Stweart (4 star, #53 overall 2009 class), Richard Howell (4 star, #51 overall 2009 class), and Glen Rice (4 star, #48 overall 2009 class) for county POY as a fucking junior

4/2/2009 12:52:41 PM

Jordan Vandenberg is now looking at four schools: USC, NCSU, Utah Valley, and Boise State.

He's scheduled to visit Boise State April 9-11 and will be making a decision after that trip.

important note is that St. Mary's is not in his list any more.

4/2/2009 1:02:26 PM

^have any videos of him surfaced yet?

4/2/2009 1:09:44 PM

I've been trying to locate free information on the guy. What kind of numbers has he put up?

4/2/2009 1:15:36 PM

^^^I feel good about our chances if St. Mary's isn't on that list

4/2/2009 1:15:45 PM

Did he visit NCSU yet?

4/2/2009 1:22:52 PM

Yes, he visited about a month ago

4/2/2009 1:25:11 PM

Quote :

"One thing I'll give Lowe props for is that his staff definitely has put to rest claims that it has an "inability to spot talent" at the PG/SG position. Brown looks solid, Harrow looks nasty, and Wood is a definite sleeper. Can't wait to get 'em each in a Wolfpack uniform."

I hope you are right but these guys haven't played a college game yet.

4/2/2009 1:26:03 PM

john wall and ryan kelly were 3*s at this time last year

I think Harrow probably ends up right at 4/5 bubble much like Brown is at this year.

4/2/2009 1:32:00 PM

Harrow is 5 star talent

4/2/2009 2:01:10 PM

If BigEgo says it then fuck Rivals and Scout

4/2/2009 2:02:54 PM

here is a link regarding some recent Jordan Vandenberg stuff
http://www.youthbasketball.eu/comp/localcomp/2009-aus-u20-men.html

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"Victoria Victoria claimed the title last season with a great performance from the 1990-born player but with onlu four players returning they missed the final game. Ryan Broekhoff (193-G/F-90, 19.3pts 59.7%FG 53.8%3pts 8.2rbs) made a stellar tournament, he's showing a nice improvement every season. Last's year MVP Matthew Dellavedova (187-G-90, 11.8pts 41.7%FG) couldn't be happy of his performance in Townville as he played way below his real potential. The rest of the team was really talented and homogeneous. The center duo did a good job, using their size advantage wisely: Jordan Vandenberg (212-C-90, 8.8pts 55.3%FG 6.5rbs) and Liam Gibcus (206-C, 9.3pts 43.9%FG). "

Blocks:
Jordan Vandenberg (212-C-90) 	VIC 	1.9bs 	6gp
Shane Harris-Tunks (207-C-90) 	NSW 	1.8bs 	6gp
Matthew Hodgson (F/C-91) 	QLD 	1.7bs 	6gp

4/2/2009 2:12:44 PM

^^Telep loves him, I think his opinion of Harrow is about as high as mine

4/2/2009 2:16:40 PM

So is this guy Luke Schenscher lite?

4/2/2009 2:16:58 PM

Stars don't matter until senior year

4/2/2009 2:18:30 PM

Quote :

"Jordan Vandenberg is now looking at four schools: USC, NCSU, Utah Valley, and Boise State. "

If Tim Floyd takes the UofA job that could help us land him, since I doubt he wants to play for a coach he has no relationship with

4/2/2009 2:21:01 PM