95 game win streak

Lets go PACK now we on a

Fuck dook let's do this



[Edited on January 10, 2013 at 12:06 AM. Reason : Lol]

1/10/2013 12:05:01 AM

You guys and your optimism.

We are barely a top 3 ACC team.

1/10/2013 12:23:56 AM

Watching us push the ball up the court after every turnover/rebound/made basket is just lovely. I hate to compare anything to those vaginas at Chapel Hill...but we look like UNC with Felton/Lawson/Marshall running the point. Once Brown gets the ball...he's fucking gone. It looks so effortless for him to get to the other end of the court...like he's gliding.

It's great for a team to be able to do that, especially when the half-court offense isn't clicking. And once Brown leaves, I see Lewis and Barber keeping this up. Thanks Gott!

1/10/2013 8:24:32 AM

Purvis was flying up the court too. We still did not force any TOs last night which is frustrating because our offense in transition is beautiful. I guess with only a 6 man rotation, we cannot really run a press of any sort and then of course Leslie and Howell are basically not allowed to touch anyone so it limits our ability to get many steals. Basically it's up to Brown and Purvis to generate all of our steals because Warren is awful on defense and Wood is too slow.

Regardless it's nice to have a time that is actually fun to watch.

1/10/2013 9:32:21 AM

That's weird because Warrens steal rate is double purvis steal rate.

In fact Leslie, Howell, and Lewis all generate more steals per possession than purvis.

Brown triples purvis at 3.8%

1/10/2013 9:50:20 AM

Quote :

"“I think there is a perception out there that State isn’t very good defensively,” Gregory said. “I’m trying to figure out who started that rumor. They are long, they are athletic and they have good size, and have veteran players.”"

1/10/2013 10:47:27 AM

Quote :

"That's weird because Warrens steal rate is double purvis steal rate. In fact Leslie, Howell, and Lewis all generate more steals per possession than purvis. Brown triples purvis at 3.8% "

I wasn't really talking about game in, game out stats. I was trying to speak more specifically regarding the Duke game and how we might create turnovers against them. I failed to make that clear I see.

Since Purvis will likely be up against Curry, we'll need him to try and actually create a TO or two. I don't see Leslie and Howell creating many TOs against Duke. Sorry I did not break out the stat sheets before I posted.



[Edited on January 10, 2013 at 10:56 AM. Reason : gh]

1/10/2013 10:55:23 AM

^^ its not a rumor

1/10/2013 11:51:31 AM

Yeah I just thought it was funny

1/10/2013 11:55:33 AM

Quote :

"This team needs more appreciations jesus fuck, it's like we are the girl in the relationship that always gives no respect to the guy that pays the rent, phone power and food."

except the team runs on the wolfpack club, so the fans actually pay the rent in this case.

1/10/2013 12:22:39 PM

rumor has it

1/10/2013 1:04:18 PM

apparently I'm not very observant but what happened with Levi Watkins and Canisius? I thought it was actually reported that he took the job. Or was it just heavily rumored he'd take it and he ended up staying?

1/10/2013 1:40:00 PM

we saved him for good luck against Duke

1/10/2013 2:04:14 PM

Quote :

"In fact Leslie, Howell, and Lewis all generate more steals per possession than purvis. "

In a single possession, you will either have 1 steal or 0...did you mean possessions per steal? In which case you'd want to have a lower number.

[Edited on January 10, 2013 at 3:52 PM. Reason : -]

1/10/2013 3:52:09 PM

I really can't imagine how freaking good we would be next year if somehow Zo and Calvin stayed for their senior years....adding Cat Barber and Co.

It's so doubtful but I'll keep my hopes up a little until they decide for sure.





[Edited on January 10, 2013 at 3:55 PM. Reason : asdf]

1/10/2013 3:55:21 PM

^^ no, I meant exactly what I said. Steals per possession.


3.8% equals .038 which is between 0 and 1.

1/10/2013 4:19:03 PM

so you're saying Lewis is a better defender than Purvis

seems legit, numbers never lie

1/10/2013 4:20:00 PM

^^Ah gotcha

1/10/2013 4:24:44 PM

No. I think you have a reading comprehension problem.


Data is data. Analysis should be rooted in data but is still subject to interpretation.



Steals are not the only way to quantify defense.

1/10/2013 4:25:55 PM

1/10/2013 4:28:09 PM

I'll bet the tards on IC are talking about his performance enhancing booze now

1/10/2013 8:26:21 PM

Great article

http://rushthecourt.net/2013/01/10/nc-state-performance-against-boston-college-was-and-was-not-a-fluke/

Quote :

"On NC State and Gambling: Why the Wolfpack Defense Has to Improve, Or Else January 10th, 2013 Matt Patton (@rise_and_fire) is an RTC correspondent and an ACC microsite writer. He filed this report after NC State’s win over Georgia Tech last night in Raleigh. NC State is probably the second best team in the ACC. The Wolfpack are experienced and talented. But they’re also a mixed bag thanks to their less than stellar defensive efficiency. The Wolfpack is a team of runs on both ends of the floor. These aren’t the normal runs of basketball cliche, they’re the runs of a degenerate gambler. On defense the gambler is often Rodney Purvis leaking out before NC State secures the rebound. Nearly two-thirds of the time, it’s a good gamble because the Wolfpack corrals the rebound. Otherwise NC State’s defense struggles to get reset, and the opponent gets a second chance with the odds in its favor. On offense the gambler is generally Lorenzo Brown or CJ Leslie looking for the home run play but instead turning the ball over. Rodney Purvis is already an emotional leader for NC State. (Photo: Ethan Hyman / Raleigh News & Observer) Rodney Purvis is already an emotional leader for NC State. (Photo: Ethan Hyman / Raleigh News & Observer) Those runs outlasted Boston College and Georgia Tech in the final minutes. Experience, talent and conditioning helped too. Those runs almost brought the Wolfpack back from what looked like a blowout against Michigan. Those runs never made an appearance in Oklahoma State’s rout of the Wolfpack. The runs come at a defensive cost, but NC State’s offense is elite because of its defensive gambles. It is unstoppable in transition for four reasons: the Purvis leak, Brown is a terror leading the break, Leslie runs the floor as anyone without the last name “Zeller,” and the icing on the cake is Wood trailing after that. Long story short, everyone but Richard Howell (one of the best defensive rebounders in the ACC) is a great option. Lots of options with a capable floor general leads to transition success better or comparable to any team in the country. That said, there are plenty of second-chance points available for a team ready to make a gamble of its own. Additionally, teams can keep the Wolfpack from getting free fast breaks by not turning the ball over. That’s how the Yellow Jackets and the Eagles played NC State close for almost two full games. These two teams finished with seven turnovers each. The catch-22 is that gambling keeps NC State’s defense mediocre, but makes its offense elite. If the Wolfpack wants to give Duke a run for the top seed in the ACC Tournament in March, its defense has to improve. One potential solution is to work on its half-court offense in order to rely less on transition. One very promising development since Mark Gottfried took over has been Scott Wood‘s consistency. He’s doing a lot more without the ball than he ever did under Sidney Lowe. Wood hit two huge threes down the stretch against Georgia Tech, both coming off set plays designed to get him the ball. Even more importantly, Leslie got at least three bunnies when Georgia Tech overplayed Wood coming off a screen. NC State needs more of those plays and less isolations going forward. Another option for NC State is to run a more unified break. This probably wouldn’t solve the defensive rebounding problem completely, as Wood and Purvis aren’t great rebounders, but it would help. And NC State would still be filthy if Howell and Leslie sprinted back with Brown leading the break and Purvis and Wood flanking him. Mark Gottfried may need to change his system for the Wolfpack to be true contenders. (AP Photo/Karl B DeBlaker) Mark Gottfried may need to change for the Wolfpack to be true contenders. (AP Photo/Karl B DeBlaker) Something has to change for NC State to make the leap to become a great team. This team is playing better right now than every other ACC team but Duke, with the possible exception of Miami. But that says as much about the strength of the ACC as it does Mark Gottfried’s squad. Shane Ryan did a little digging into the postseason success of teams with great offenses and middling defenses in the last decade (allowing NC State’s defense to improve before the end of the season). Four of the 13 teams fitting the mold lost in the Sweet Sixteen, two lost in the round of 32, five lost in the round of 64, and the remaining two didn’t make the Big Dance. The Sweet Sixteen appears to be the ceiling if the Wolfpack defense doesn’t improve. Unfortunately, history isn’t on NC State’s side. Since Ken Pomeroy started keeping track of tempo-free statistics 10 years ago, Gottfried’s teams have never finished higher than #50 in defensive efficiency, and their average finish is closer to #80. So far this year’s team is markedly worse than last year’s team, which might reflect the loss of CJ Williams on the perimeter. It also probably stems in part from giving those elite freshmen significant minutes. But real changes have to be made. Gottfried’s espoused goal of getting better every day won’t transform the defense from average to elite. There’s a systematic issue, either in personnel or strategy. The former isn’t adjustable, so he needs to attack the latter in order to be taken seriously as a national title contender."

1/11/2013 10:35:55 AM

Quote :

" Leslie got at least three bunnies"

?

1/11/2013 10:49:03 AM

Uncontested baskets

1/11/2013 10:56:47 AM

no, i'm pretty sure that is in regards to his hunting on the oregon trail.

1/11/2013 11:00:10 AM

No doubt our defense can improve...but our opponents are only shooting 40.1% on the year fwiw

areas for improvement are team rebounding and perimeter defense

[Edited on January 11, 2013 at 12:25 PM. Reason : adsf]

1/11/2013 12:23:01 PM

They also need to force more turnovers and play better post defense. Also, they could at least attempt to deny entry passes and keep quicker guards from penetrating the lane so easily. So, pretty much all aspects of defensive play.

That said, nice scouting by ^^^^. A lot of our defensive woes are directly related to offensive strategy. It's a trade-off.

1/11/2013 12:35:11 PM

honestly i think there is a pretty simple solution to our defense, and that's to stay focused at all 5 positions for 40 minutes. this theory is part of my larger theory that there's reason to be super optimistic still. which includes us beating duke.

this theory actually fits the stats quite nicely. our glaring flaws are creating turnovers, allowing offensive rebounds and committing stupid fouls. those are all fixable by keeping your head in the game, every single play.

[Edited on January 11, 2013 at 1:08 PM. Reason : might as well kenpom 'n' shit.]

1/11/2013 1:00:58 PM

I'll take this over routine 5 minute scoring droughts all day long.

1/11/2013 1:04:43 PM

Quote :

"I'll take this over routine 5-10 minute scoring droughts all day long."

Agree completely. Slight addendum.

1/11/2013 1:16:05 PM

Excellent article posted above. Thanks bronco.

BTW that actual analysis face, as opposed to the stats based trolling you employ.

Quote :

"no, i'm pretty sure that is in regards to his hunting on the oregon trail."

Since I can't like your post, I will do so with this post

1/11/2013 1:55:45 PM

Quote :

"that's to stay focused at all 5 positions for 40 minutes"

I think focus is the key word there. Playing a 6-7 man rotation like we do, we can't reasonably play hard nose defense for 40 mins. If we tried we would be sucking wind the last 5 mins, instead of pulling away. I like how we play now, use a bit of caution in the first half and turn up the intensity during the final 10 mins. We could stand to rebound a little better and we should be better at fighting through screens, but there is no need for a hard pressing half-court D the entire 40 mins. I like our gaurds leaking out and starting the offense early, running gets us easy points and, as pointed out in the article, we are basically unstoppable on the break (as long as we stop throwing the alley when it's not there)


[Edited on January 11, 2013 at 2:14 PM. Reason : .]

1/11/2013 2:13:23 PM

if we played tough, hardnosed defense for 40 minutes a game, we'd have about 5 guys foul out every game

1/11/2013 3:25:24 PM

Quote :

"no, i'm pretty sure that is in regards to his hunting on the oregon trail"

hahaha

great article, though. I'm just hoping we really come out to play since it's Duke.

1/11/2013 3:26:53 PM

Quote :

" if we played tough, hardnosed defense for 40 minutes a game, we'd have about 5 guys foul out every game"

Amazing how other teams can play tough defense all game without their starters all fouling out.

1/11/2013 4:11:20 PM

we don't have a lot of depth, particularly for the guys who are prone to foul-out if they play 40 mins of hard-nosed defense.

1/11/2013 4:26:42 PM

Pretty sure you're just trolling synapse, but that article is using what we call "rationalization".

They are trying to rationalize our atrocious defense by saying it's okay because we're getting dunks every play because we are cherry picking and playing 5 on 4 on defense.

It simply isn't true. Our "pace" is only 90th in the country. This isn't Rick Pitino's Kentucky Wildcats in a full court press. This isn't Roy Williams delayed fast break.

We are simply horrible defensively. Getting toasted on the ball, missing rotations, missing box outs, not corralling loose balls, and not forcing any turnovers is POOR defense. And even if we WERE fast breaking every play it would still not be optimal strategy to let the other team score every possession given that we are a great halfcourt offense as well.

[Edited on January 11, 2013 at 5:50 PM. Reason : a]

1/11/2013 5:50:06 PM

theres not much need to rationalize not losing a game since November

1/11/2013 6:02:07 PM

Be patient.
I must keep reminding myself of this.


And if there were no rewards to reap
No loving embrace to see me through
This tedious path I've chosen here,
I certainly would've walked away by now.
And I still may.








Gonna wait it out.

1/11/2013 6:03:48 PM

What a giant Tool.

1/11/2013 6:20:36 PM

Jesus Christ's Omnipotence wasn't appreciated by everyone either.

1/11/2013 6:39:55 PM

Maybe if we're lucky, the same thing will happen to you and Jesus.

1/11/2013 6:49:31 PM

ZING

1/11/2013 6:50:49 PM

Good idea, kill the goose laying the golden gambling eggs. And one of the only one who posts anything of substance on this otherwise vapid messageboard.


Here I am expecting just a little bit too much from the WolfWeb.

But I see through it all.

1/11/2013 6:53:44 PM

By anything of substance do you mean the stats on kenpom.com?


Honestly, I'd rather you just stop. I'll go look at those if I want them.

1/11/2013 7:18:27 PM

Courtney Fells dunk against Gott coached Alabama.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=513ALbLuFtU

1/12/2013 12:11:29 AM

courtney fells was a pretty high caliber athlete, it's a shame he never had a good coach.

(it's also worth mentioning that the gottfried coached alabama team did win the game)

1/12/2013 12:16:05 AM

Just when I find myself leaning towards the anti-face bandwagon he goes and drops a solid musical reference..... well played sir. You just bought yourself at least 2 more games from this innocent bystander.

Wow, anticipation is at a critical high and I believe. We aren't invincible but we are damn good..and that rules. This is our game to lose but I think we reset the mindset tomorrow. I think we make a statement. GO PACK!

1/12/2013 12:36:32 AM

lol, face is such a martyr

1/12/2013 9:57:48 AM

Can we realistically talk about Courtney Fells and what his role would be on this team?

Why did he not make it here?

1/12/2013 10:07:41 AM