he def had a K. no doubt in my mind. K10 or KJ at best. maybe even K9. i bet he pushed all in as well and you hit your flush. how close am i?

5/17/2006 12:59:57 PM

Quote :

"Honestly, if you are not playing 3 tables, you are doing yourself wrong. If you currently play 1 table of .10-.25, drop down and play 3 tables of .05-.10. Or whatever, you get the idea. You will probably get a better return. "

I only play for money in person, so it doesn't really matter what my return is online. So far I'm up about $700 thanks to a tourney I won at Binions casino.

But what site do most of you guys use? I use pokerstars for fun, but I don't see any options for cash... although I haven't really looked. How does it work legally and in terms of taxes?

5/17/2006 1:02:15 PM

ben- i could also see that guy calling OOP with K8o. maybe boating on the river. but im sticking with the fact that he had a K.

5/17/2006 1:13:23 PM

Quote :

"how has he seen you play? have you been folding to BB steals? what is his position? what is the SB's chips stack? are we on a bubble?"

We're in the $ now, and it's moving up every 9 folks. I understand he was coming all-in out of need. However, he wasn't doing it every hand. In this case, he was either UTG or 2nd position. When he came to the table, he had like 8k, so he had collected the blinds a few times to get what he had. I don't remember any cases of me folding to BB steals at that point, but I may have. He had to at least see the hand before where i won a huge pot, but i do not remember what with. i just remember thinking about that while debating my play.

After this hand (which i folded) this became his ONLY play, which is why i wanted to bring it up. Even when he was called a few times, he showed legit hands, like AK, or mid pockets, and won all the flips. So even when he built his stack to 40+k All-in preflop when he had a hand remained his ONLY play. He did not do it every hand, only when he had something "decent".

He wound up finishing 6th with this move. But he/I played at the same table for the last 3, and he easily went all-in PF 25+ times, and was only called like 4 or 5, winning every time, until the final table. So he collected a ton of blinds and antes. This was the only time I recall having anything remotely playable against him when he did it.

Opinions on the all-in only strategy like this?

5/17/2006 2:19:38 PM

I've read articles about this strategy. It's hard to say but basically, they usually say that if all players are playing optimally then it is a valid strategy with almost any two cards when you will be heads up. So my question is, was he going all in almost every time in the SB?

5/17/2006 2:27:38 PM

I gotta go to work, so I'll check this again later.... but he only pushed when he seemed legit. He would check the BB if it was a limped pot into him, but then push if he connected. He would give walks.

5/17/2006 2:32:29 PM

lol @ ac hand

5/17/2006 3:05:15 PM

Kol wants my girlfriend.

Congrats on that hand though. Really I shouldn't pay $80 just to see the hand I know you have

[Edited on May 17, 2006 at 4:12 PM. Reason : a]

5/17/2006 4:11:37 PM

shes really a man

5/17/2006 4:12:24 PM

M < ~8 is auto all-in for me as my only option

5/17/2006 4:37:51 PM

^^^^^ Well it sounds like he was just willing to walk the coin flip tight rope. Several people play this way but in a matter of 1 hand you can find yourself behind 4 to 1 right off the bat. However, you can win a sizable tourney w/o gambling at least some.

5/17/2006 4:50:42 PM

^^^^Eh, more like she was distracting me just like another hot girl manages to do sometimes, pretty good at the Hollywooding too (u should remember the hand)

^^^Unless you've seen the schlong I'm gonna have to go on and disagree with you there

^^I actually start feeling unconfortable around 10. I'd rather push here bc if I double up (which im hoping I will) then Ill have an M of 20 which gives me more options on how to play. I refuse to be short stack for longer than a round...you gotta gamble it up to get some chips eventually so why not now (shoulda been earlier tho)

^yous bes ah pro so i aint gon say shit tuh yah

5/17/2006 5:26:58 PM

Quote :

"M < ~8 is auto all-in for me as my only option "

ding ding ding ding

5/17/2006 6:36:17 PM

Great article writtin by SamENole a few days ago on short-stack MTT play...

http://www.pocketfives.com/80BFB869-4F9C-4536-9A85-600FB9E9ADED.aspx

5/17/2006 11:07:07 PM

Point of order question about a tournament.

I move all in for 6xBB. People sitting around immediately start heckling the 2 players left to call and check it down. One guy has a huge stack, the second guy to act has a decent sized stack and had just made a comment about how big the first guys stack was. Both call me, and before the flop comes, the second guy flips over his cards as if he is checking it down with the other guy.

At this point, what is the dealer supposed to do?

Didn't know where to look for this information so I figured I would ask here...

Note, there were 6 players left, only 2 more left in the said hand.

[Edited on May 18, 2006 at 12:03 AM. Reason : Note]

5/18/2006 12:03:23 AM

really, the turned hand is dead instantly

i mean yea they can agree to check it down

but the minute he exposes a card in a tourney before ther hand is over, it is a dead hand

[Edited on May 18, 2006 at 12:06 AM. Reason : .]

5/18/2006 12:06:20 AM

^ Actually not true. In most tourneys including WPT Championship (yes it happened at my table there), the player only gets a warning the first time... then a 20 minute penalty the second time. The hand is definitely not declared dead the first time (even when the player does it on purpose), however, the second time, I'm not sure about dead or not as I've never seen that second time happen.

^^^ Matt's article is TOO good. Read away and make sure you know everything you've read there. Not rocket science, but I kinda hate how good the info. is that is freely, readily available at pocketfives.

[Edited on May 18, 2006 at 3:50 AM. Reason : .]

5/18/2006 3:48:07 AM

i was just speaking for pkr

one time when i was there someone purposely exposed a card during the hand, people complained and ed flush made them muck

im thinking it is a house rule there

5/18/2006 8:22:52 AM

flush over flush over flush


that is all

5/18/2006 10:41:34 AM

kol lets be honest, you probably had no business being in the hand.

i say that without knowing the details

5/18/2006 11:06:38 AM

eh, it was limped around but i had bad position...had I been behind the bigger flushes to see the action then Kol MUCKS!

pokenum -h 9c 3c - qc tc - ac 7c -- 2c 4c 6c
Holdem Hi: 903 enumerated boards containing 6c 4c 2c
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
9c 3c 41 4.54 862 95.46 0 0.00 0.045
Qc Tc 0 0.00 903 100.00 0 0.00 0.000
Ac 7c 862 95.46 41 4.54 0 0.00 0.955

lets guess who had what:

we had the loosey-goosey aggressive bullshitter in the hand
the master slow-player in the hand
and we had miss-tighty pants in too



and notice I had a 1 outter to the nut flush(str8flsh)...if I had hit that I woulda pissed my pants





[Edited on May 18, 2006 at 12:04 PM. Reason : ,]

5/18/2006 11:55:53 AM

u bet $75 into how big of a pot?

5/18/2006 12:01:46 PM

it was a huge overbet...got caught up in flopping it and didnt think to not bet so much that if Im beat I didnt commit myself

funny how you make small mistakes and they dont screw you but you make ONE semi-big mistake and its the hand that has the most action and the most money involved

[Edited on May 18, 2006 at 12:06 PM. Reason : yh]

5/18/2006 12:06:18 PM

When you bet like that the only hand that calls you is the hand that beats you.

5/18/2006 12:17:11 PM

Quote :

"funny how you make small mistakes and they dont screw you but you make ONE semi-big mistake and its the hand that has the most action and the most money involved"

just a small observation on this statement. if they small mistakes had tons of actions and you lose, I think that makes them big mistakes... and vice versa.

5/18/2006 12:20:53 PM

i think it's amusing all the "bad beat" stories I read on 2+2 and pocket5's are all from pokerstars, haha

5/18/2006 2:20:25 PM

i think its funny that my two worst bad beat stories occur from live play in a casino.

so there

5/18/2006 2:56:35 PM

i think i'm done with pokerstars

when i start playing again, i'm going to move to another service

5/18/2006 9:54:39 PM

post your bad beats here....

5/18/2006 10:07:59 PM

i wanna take a picture like this






[drunk]

5/18/2006 10:54:03 PM

pretty awesome

stayed up late and watched D'Agostino play some HU LH. No one was in the chat box so I was talking to him about Nick Shulman. Hahaha he said he wasnt surprised shulman was blowing up his bankroll. Nick was playing mangler this past weekend when you saw him ben

5/19/2006 3:42:37 AM

the last few days ive wanted more and more to play online again.

but its been more than a month, and i was trying to make it till june.

ahah.



Im not really sure who mangler is, should i?

[Edited on May 19, 2006 at 11:33 AM. Reason : e]

5/19/2006 11:30:33 AM

peeps, dont over-analyze errthing I said aight?


lol @ pic

5/19/2006 11:34:30 AM

I quit playing online in January. With exception of using $50 to try to cash in a 35K guaranteed. I just loaded on stars again and made 100 in like an hour on a 3/6 table. I'm only going to be doing limit for a while and see how that goes.

5/19/2006 12:50:32 PM

i'll tell you how you'll do

you'll win consistantly for the first few days and make some money

then the system will recognize that you've been winning, and therefore you will slowly lose it all from then on

5/19/2006 1:02:11 PM

^ you forgot one step. after he loses, he will come on here and tell us about it.

5/19/2006 1:28:32 PM

for you guys that have played with Akash in the 2/4 nl before, how do you hadnle a player like him?

i found myself forcing a call down with 2nd pair a few times knowing i was probably beat a few times, but just had to.

??

5/20/2006 3:45:21 AM

I just call with pretty much any ok hand preflop and hope I hit. If I do then I usually find myself calling a big raise on the flop and then go all in over the top of him on the turn depending on the circumstances. Assuming you have a real hand, opposed to something like second pair. Just takes some patience. BTW I haven't played their 2/4 nl in months. Is pretty much everyone still god awful?

5/20/2006 10:52:09 AM

from what i understand, it got bad for a few months, but is back on track. theres a new core group of guys that seem to be there everytime im there, and they always seem hellbend on dropping lots of cash. (the rather thuggish group, for those of you who know what im talking about).

I'll just detail the largest pot of the night for david, so he can get an idea as to what its like.

Any time both Sai, Akash, and a few other action monkeys are at the table, it gets nice.

so this newer guy is UTG and bumps it up to 21. Sai calls at UTG+1 with close to 550 or so, folds around (including me) to the CO who calls, a guy who had his first night at the club thursday night. hes stuck about a buyin, but building back to about 500 when this hand starts. Sai has him covered. UTG+1 has about 250. Akash is in the BB, and calls as well.

flop comes 9s 6s 2h

Akash checks, UTG bets out $50, Sai goes all-in, for a shitton. CO calls, and Sai has him covered by about 75. Akash goes into the tank (!!!!!) with about 300 behind. he says he has a gutshot and it looks like hes thinking of gambling, buts worried about a flush draw being out there. eventually he folds, UTG folds saying he had QQ.

Sai flips J9o.
CO has KsQs.

Td on the turn, Akash flips out saying he had T7.

River is the 9c.

the nines hold for a >1k pot.


christ

5/20/2006 6:33:04 PM

Ok, I don't post here much, but I was @ PKR friday night and Akash is one of my favorite people @ the game (this is Mike D). The first thing that you have to realize is that Akash IS a poker player and a pretty damned good one at that. He's just a bit too much of a gambler to make consistent money and the money doesn't mean much to him. Poker is his "release". If he were to play tourneys, especially bigger tourneys (e.g. $1K plus), I think he would do very well compared to most players. Akash will play your hand more than he will play his and your betting/behavior in the hand will make all the difference against Akash.

I'd write more, but I don't want to post his biography online. If you'd like to talk more about how he plays, hit me up in the smoking room @ PKR sometime.

- Mike

5/21/2006 3:19:28 AM

Mike D,

This is Ben,

Please post here more, you are a great player and would be a very good addition to the more serious posts here.

I agree that Akash is a very good player, theres no doubt about that. He's one of the few players at pkr that really, really scare me at the game when he shows up, theres no doubt about that.

5/21/2006 3:32:02 AM

you know i have been outta raleigh too long when MIKE FUCKING D is a good player... LOL.


Next thing you know Greg will be considered a rounder.

5/21/2006 8:40:37 AM

I'll assume you're joking Rob... but just in case... Mike D is definitely the best of the bunch that I used to play with in Raleigh who still lives there and plays some at pkr from time to time. (I'd but Rooper a bit above him - in cash games, not tourneys - but as you probably know, Roop moved out to Vegas with me). I know that Ben (whose play I also put pretty high) will probably agree.

Mike's assessment of Akash is dead on too. Akash does not take into account the stakes he's playing and the players he's playing against, and that's his fatal flaw, the reason he loses badly overall there. However, he does have a lot more poker sense than a lot of the players there, but because he doesn't play those stakes properly, it's fairly easy to exploit this weakness against him. I had nights where Akash really got to me too, and although I made a lot overall at PKR, and had a fair number of big losing nights too - on most of those nights, Akash won big.

[Edited on May 21, 2006 at 9:36 AM. Reason : 'kash]

5/21/2006 9:31:53 AM

yes, i am joking, mike d was a good player.

only played we all played with that was really an ATM was david. that guy sucked.

5/21/2006 10:24:53 AM

and i did not was to miss a jab at gabrainos either!

5/21/2006 10:25:18 AM

Still playing 3/6 online. I think I've played about 20 hours and am down $50 overall. I keep calling down too much. Fin

I just went bust in a hand I flopped a set and it was raised and capped with 3 people in on every street. Both of them chased down a straight. That put me on tilt.

[Edited on May 21, 2006 at 1:32 PM. Reason : a]

5/21/2006 1:06:07 PM

ehe limit rules.

5/21/2006 1:42:31 PM

Indeed.

5/21/2006 1:46:36 PM

Quote :

"and i did not was to miss a jab at gabrainos either!"

monster in a wheelchair...

5/21/2006 2:00:25 PM

heres a story.

my buddy from penn state has had quite an up and comming over the past year.

he gets to the final table of a 250 wsop main event sat, 1st pays a seat package, 2nd is nothing.

his power goes out. he calls another friend, and now hes got a seat haning in the air, while me and the other guy are attempting to take this down.

its heads up.


well see what happens.

5/21/2006 7:00:33 PM