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horrorshow
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^nolan's a smart man. robin sucks.

6/23/2005 7:17:48 PM

Woodfoot
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i think movie robin has sucked

6/23/2005 8:46:24 PM

spookyjon
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Teen Titans Robin is ok.

But that's a kid's show.

6/24/2005 12:24:38 AM

horrorshow
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conspiracy theory: tom cruise becomes a "believer" and starts wooing katie holmes.

conclusion: "war of the worlds" has to be a shitty picture. tom cruise has converted and given another superficial proposal to hog Batman's movie press.

i for one will not be seeing the movie (i.e. war of the worlds) to object to this bad press game.



[Edited on June 24, 2005 at 1:32 AM. Reason : .]

6/24/2005 1:29:39 AM

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5 stars

[Edited on June 24, 2005 at 1:51 AM. Reason : for batman]

6/24/2005 1:50:39 AM

spookyjon
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You do realize that Tom Cruise has been a Scientologist for a long long time? This isn't some Schroedinger's Cat business where just cuz you didn't know he was means he wasn't.

6/24/2005 1:51:13 AM

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^didn't know.

another note: Batman Begins was amazing. it's difficult to find a good action movie through all of the hollywood rubble, but this movie was true quality. it broke a lot of trends from the previous films (i.e. a batmobile that kicks ass).

definitely going to see it again.

and i believe spielberg is losing his touch with science fiction. haven't seen him produce anything good since AI, which didn't have a lot of non-kubric fans anyway.

[Edited on June 24, 2005 at 1:57 AM. Reason : ,]

[Edited on June 24, 2005 at 2:03 AM. Reason : ,]

6/24/2005 1:55:26 AM

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you have the oddest respect/dislike criteria for films, don't you

6/24/2005 2:09:33 AM

spookyjon
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I think he flips a coin.

6/24/2005 2:34:52 AM

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"it broke a lot of trends from the previous films (i.e. a batmobile that kicks ass)."


eh actually that was one of my least fav parts. for some reason i thought that batmobile was stupid

6/24/2005 10:05:49 AM

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"and i believe spielberg is losing his touch with science fiction. haven't seen him produce anything good since AI"



He's only directed three movies between A.I. and WAR OF THE WORLDS. Only one of those was science fiction (MINORITY REPORT), and I'd rank that as one of the better science fiction movies in recent years. And CATCH ME IF YOU CAN is probably one of my favorite Spielberg movies. Only THE TERMINAL is below what I'd expect quality-wise from a Spielberg movies. So yeah, I'm not really sure what you're talking abut.

6/24/2005 10:18:09 AM

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"The stolen Microwave Emitter's primary function is to vaporize all water supplies in its emission radius. Were this to be possible, any human being near the device or in its path would have been flash-boiled as well, considering that approximately 78% of the human body consists of water. No one in Gotham, as well as on the boat where the device was first used and stolen, is affected by the device."
- http://imdb.com/title/tt0372784/goofs


oops!

6/24/2005 10:33:56 AM

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haha gosh i feel stupid for not even thinking of that now

6/24/2005 10:37:34 AM

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so you folks are fine with a fabric that can become a full on solid, an antidote made without ever having access to the thing it is fixing, and the physics of batmans grappling ability

but this one you can't let go...

6/24/2005 10:41:54 AM

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i didnt say i couldnt let it go, nor that i was or wasnt ok with the other stuff (which for the most part i am because its comicbook stuff and its all far fetched but fun) just that i didnt think of that during the movie is all

[Edited on June 24, 2005 at 10:45 AM. Reason : ]

6/24/2005 10:45:06 AM

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"an antidote made without ever having access to the thing it is fixing"


at one point he said he'd felt similar effects before, but never as potent as the weaponized form, so presumably he let lucius know what the flower was...?

in any case i just thought that plot hole was a little more central to the plot, and it was funny i hadn't noticed it earlier...

i have no problem suspending disbelief for movies, but this is the kind of thing i would normally notice, and didn't this time.... probably cos i was already letting a few things slide

[Edited on June 24, 2005 at 10:48 AM. Reason : ^ditto]

6/24/2005 10:48:24 AM

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k

6/24/2005 11:10:34 AM

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"at one point he said he'd felt similar effects before, but never as potent as the weaponized form, so presumably he let lucius know what the flower was...?"


A rare flower with no name that's only found atop a snowy Chinese mountain isn't exactly the easiest thing to go on.

6/24/2005 11:50:59 AM

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"Yo son, there's this flower, and it's blue....shit's crazy!"

"Coming right up, Mister Wayne."

6/24/2005 11:56:38 AM

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and morgan freeman was all like "Let me tell you something Mr. Wayne; Hope is a dangerous thing. Hope can drive a man insane"

6/24/2005 12:25:29 PM

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Yeah and Ducard's like "Your anger gives you great power-"

Yoda: "But beware the dark side of the Force."

Ducard: "Stfu Yoda! This is my goddamn movie!"

Yoda: "Sorry, I am."

Okay, maybe not, but it could've been like that. Yeah.

6/24/2005 1:20:31 PM

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and bruce wayne is all like "There is an idea of a Bruce Wayne; some kind of abstraction. But there is no real me: only an entity, something illusory. And though I can hide my cold gaze, and you can shake my hand and feel flesh gripping yours and maybe you can even sense our lifestyles are probably comparable... I simply am not there"

wait
actually
he was kinda like that

lets try this again

and bruce wayne is all like "SWING HEIL!"

6/24/2005 1:22:57 PM

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I think the movie would have been better with a twist ending.

Like what if Batman and Bruce are just alternate personalities of Alfred?

6/24/2005 1:41:41 PM

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FINALLY goin tonight to see this

6/24/2005 8:18:11 PM

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"eh actually that was one of my least fav parts. for some reason i thought that batmobile was stupid"


What would you rather it have been? Where's he gonna get a custom ass batmobile that quickly without someone figuring out that he's batman. He had to order parts of his mask separately so that no one would figure it out. A badass batmobile it a bit harder to but together on your own.

6/24/2005 10:57:21 PM

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this was a really good film, i couldnt believe that david goyer wrote this (same guy who screwed blade 3 up)

i diddnt like the fight scenes tho' (the frantic close-up camera movement) just diddnt work for me.

[Edited on June 24, 2005 at 10:59 PM. Reason : .]

6/24/2005 10:58:12 PM

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I agree about the camera work.

Sometimes I wasn't sure exactly what was going on in a fight scene.

6/24/2005 11:39:34 PM

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They are already talking about who will play the Joker in the next one.. Sean Penn?
http://filmforce.ign.com/batman/articles/628/628920p1.html

6/24/2005 11:55:40 PM

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http://imdb.com/title/tt0372784/trivia

good trivia

6/25/2005 12:00:17 AM

Locutus Zero
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Sean Penn is such a douche.

6/25/2005 12:05:31 AM

StingrayRush
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just got back and i loved it. as much as i would probably like the sequel, i think this can stand by itself. the hinting of the joker at the end was cool, but it seems a little superfluous if they're gonna make another movie. of course my friend didn't like it as much because he's still attached to michael keaton (still my favorite, but this is a close 2nd).

as for the antidote thing, didn't morgan freeman say something about analyzing wayne's blood and about how hard it was? i assume the drug could've been extracted from that

6/25/2005 12:32:36 AM

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yes. sean penn is a douche. someone mentioned crispin glover earlier--the ideal joker in my opinion.

and i agree on the camera work. it was almost as if they didn't have any confidence that bale could pull off the manygoonsatatime trick. should've seen him in Equilibrium.

6/25/2005 12:51:26 AM

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equilibrium probably got him the job--every fight scene involves him fighting 5+ guys at a time

the camera work was probably done to make it feel like you're there with all the action and confusion of a fight, i didn't mind it, and it wasn't that hard to follow. for camera work like that you just gotta pay attention instead of sitting there concentrating on putting the popcorn in your mouth

6/25/2005 12:56:00 AM

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no one said anything about it being hard to follow, or not knowing whats going on. just, that shaking the camera like you have parkinson's disease, diddnt capture the action well in this film.

6/25/2005 1:12:22 AM

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SPOILERS

something tells me the guy who was in the train....al ghul is still alive.. same for scarecrow

6/25/2005 1:20:21 AM

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^^ i got the same feeling to. i liked his character he kicked ass. and the whole league of shadows concept was awesome.

6/25/2005 1:22:46 AM

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scarecrow's obviously alive because they said crane was still on the loose. as for qui-gon, i kinda doubt it. with the joker being the likely villain, i don't see how they'd fit him in. its kinda like katie holmes' character: she served her purpose, so now they can broom her. same with al ghul

6/25/2005 1:23:52 AM

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Ra's can simply be there to spook Batman. I mean, even in the cartoon, it wasn't like Batman was always out to get him...he typically waited for Ra's to try taking over the world before he went to stop him. He can simply show himself, and in essence, he can look legendary at the same time. He could even assist the Bats just for kicks. Ra's can be "satisfied", that Gotham can be saved and he'll turn his attention to something else.

6/25/2005 1:39:34 AM

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Ra : Batman :: Blofeld : James Bond

6/25/2005 1:44:15 AM

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they'll just throw Ra's in the lazarus pit and he'll be ready for the sequel

6/25/2005 11:09:31 AM

StingrayRush
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why does ra's have an apostrophe?

6/25/2005 11:18:15 AM

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"an antidote made without ever having access to the thing it is fixing""


Morgan isolated the hallucinogens protein in Wayne’s blood. Duh

6/25/2005 11:33:23 AM

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^^ He is the Al Ghul of Ra, hence Ra's Al Ghul.

6/25/2005 11:40:17 AM

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"they'll just throw Ra's in the lazarus pit and he'll be ready for the sequel"


Try explaining the concept of the Lazarus pit to a Divinity student who hasn't ever read a comic book (or even watched a cartoon for that matter...you know, nerd stuff)...it's fun because he can't stop thinking about the implications of comparing Ra's to Lazarus.

6/25/2005 11:50:12 AM

spookyjon
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I just finished Dark Victory. Definitely quality stuff.

6/27/2005 12:38:38 AM

Woodfoot
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i honestly think i've been getting Hush and Dark Victory confused in my head

guess i should re-read both

6/27/2005 12:40:25 AM

spookyjon
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Probably.

Cuz Dark Victory is definitely a direct followup to The Long Halloween.

And they're both the same writer/artist pair.

And they're both awesome.

6/27/2005 12:44:34 AM

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"an antidote made without ever having access to the thing it is fixing"


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"Morgan isolated the hallucinogens protein in Wayne’s blood. Duh
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thankyou for saying that, it was bothering me that that statement was going unanswered when the answer is plain as day.

lucius fox even tells bruce how damn hard it was to isolate the remainder poison in his blood

come on people just go watch the movie again.

5/5, i loved it.

6/28/2005 9:22:48 AM

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^ hey i said they antidote thing first!

6/28/2005 9:59:22 AM

Woodfoot
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I'M NOT A DOCTOR OR ANYTHING

BUT THAT SEEMS JUST AS OUTLANDISH AS THE FACT THAT PEOPLE DON'T VAPORIZE WHEN THEY ARE NEAR THE MICROWAVE REACTOR THING

and for the record
i never found the microwave thing that outlandish


[Edited on June 28, 2005 at 10:04 AM. Reason : `]

6/28/2005 10:03:57 AM

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