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pryderi
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Finally, W tells the truth.

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"Iraq war keeps oil from terrorists, Bush says

August 31, 2005

BY JENNIFER LOVEN

CORONADO, Calif. -- President Bush on Tuesday answered growing anti-war protests with a fresh reason for American troops to continue fighting in Iraq: protection of the country's vast oil fields that he said would otherwise fall under the control of terrorist extremists."


http://www.suntimes.com/output/iraq/cst-nws-ibush31.html

I don't know how terrorists would sieze control of oil fields, but if they could, shouldn't we have invaded Saudi Arabia instead?

[Edited on September 1, 2005 at 7:28 AM. Reason : link]

9/1/2005 7:28:03 AM

Lokken
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you dont see how they could take control of an oil field??

9/1/2005 7:47:48 AM

pryderi
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He said, "oil fields". I could see 1 oil field, but not a nation of oil fields.

15 of the 19 terrorists that attacked us were from Saudi Arabia.

9/1/2005 7:57:29 AM

Lokken
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so its ok if they have 1 or two fields

9/1/2005 8:01:19 AM

pryderi
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Using this reasoning, we should invade and occupy every oil-producing country.

9/1/2005 8:02:31 AM

Lokken
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every country that has terrorists controlling oil production?

9/1/2005 8:12:43 AM

pryderi
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There were no terrorists in Iraq.

9/1/2005 8:18:41 AM

30thAnnZ
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There are no rapists in New York.

9/1/2005 8:23:49 AM

pryderi
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*correction* There were no terrorists in Iraq before we invaded.

9/1/2005 8:25:39 AM

Lokken
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9/1/2005 8:29:14 AM

pryderi
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rolleyes is not an argument.

9/1/2005 8:34:28 AM

Lokken
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neither is saying there were no terrorists in Iraq


9/1/2005 8:36:41 AM

30thAnnZ
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*correction* There were no rapists in New York before we invaded.

9/1/2005 8:50:35 AM

gunzz
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"*correction* There were no terrorists in Iraq before we invaded"


and you know this HOW?

9/1/2005 8:50:40 AM

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"There were no terrorists in Iraq."


Didn't Sadam use chemcial weapons against his own people? Didn't he mass murder his own people? Didn't he torture his own people? He fits definition of a terrorist pretty good to me. Yet pryderi, even though he is a humanitarian liberal hippy, still does not see this as a bad thing.

9/1/2005 9:19:56 AM

LoneSnark
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Because Lokken tells us so.

9/1/2005 9:32:36 AM

abonorio
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You can't arge with pryderi... the logic defies reason. Conjecture is worth more than logical reasoning. Arguing with pryderi would require the laws of physics to be broken.

9/1/2005 9:35:22 AM

esgargs
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dude bigun

Going by your argument

There are terrorists in Saudi Arabia

There are terrorists in North Korea

There are terrorists in Sri Lanka

There are terrorists in Pakistan

There are terrorists in India

There are terrorists in Russia



I mean name one country that doesn't have them.

The solution is what?

9/1/2005 9:55:10 AM

30thAnnZ
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BULLETS TO THE HEAD

9/1/2005 9:59:59 AM

esgargs
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I forgot to add

There are terrorists in china

9/1/2005 10:00:31 AM

quiet guy
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WAR ON PLANET EARTH

9/1/2005 10:01:38 AM

GGMon
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"There are no rapists in New York."


Wins

9/1/2005 11:07:08 AM

Lokken
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I am not completely sure, but wasnt there a link between iraq and hezbolah(sp)? and a number of other groups? Al Qaeda isnt the only terrorist group.

9/1/2005 11:29:47 AM

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"I mean name one country that doesn't have them."

don't forget
here in this country we use chemical weapons on our own people

you think the gas chamber is filled with heilum?
you think lethal injection is a shot of penicillin?


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"Al Qaeda isnt the only terrorist group"
they're the only ones bush keeps talking about...

9/1/2005 11:50:20 AM

Mr. Joshua
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^^ Dunno about that, but Hussein paid the families of Palestinian suicide bombers for years.

9/1/2005 12:03:50 PM

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Yes, there were many terrorists groups which received support from Iraq. There were many other groups which used Iraq as a staging area. And there were many terrorists, which had killed Americans, which were being sheltered in Iraq.

I remember when British forces captured that really fat guy that had shot and killed am American in a wheelchair about an italian cruise ship.

9/1/2005 12:40:25 PM

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woodfoot: we use gas chambers and lethal injection for MURDERERS, not innocent, civilian families.

for those arguing that there are terrorists in many other countries, the reason we haven't gone after them too is simple: it's hard enough to get support for taking on one of those countries. thus the millions of attacks on Bush and the war in Iraq.

Bush talks about Al Qaeda all the time because they're one of the big groups and everybody knows about them.

9/1/2005 1:02:30 PM

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im not trying to make a point other than pointing this out...


you know what would make other groups well known? if bush talked about them

9/1/2005 1:04:25 PM

pryderi
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"There were many other groups which used Iraq as a staging area."


Do you just make up this shit as you go along, or can you give me a reference.

9/1/2005 2:20:05 PM

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9/1/2005 2:25:44 PM

Woodfoot
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"woodfoot: we use gas chambers and lethal injection for MURDERERS, not innocent, civilian families"

you do realize there are other ways to deal with murderers right
there are PLENTY of countries out there that look down on us for that
but i don't see them sending 100,000 troops over here because they disagree with how we do business

9/1/2005 2:31:37 PM

esgargs
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Shit man

Saudi Arabia beheads people out in the open

zero human rights

Let's bomb them

9/1/2005 2:33:40 PM

JonHGuth
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our capital punishment system is closer to the terrorist countries than the "civilized" world

9/1/2005 2:33:45 PM

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"I don't know how terrorists would sieze control of oil fields"


Politics.

9/1/2005 2:39:57 PM

Woodfoot
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Or

Guns

either one really

9/1/2005 2:43:04 PM

Woodfoot
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they will STILL hang your ass in Utah

its 2005

9/1/2005 2:44:38 PM

pryderi
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"I don't know how terrorists would sieze control of oil fields"


Quote :
"Politics."


Purple-fingered Iraqi Islamic extremists.

9/1/2005 3:08:55 PM

LoneSnark
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"our capital punishment system is closer to the terrorist countries than the "civilized" world"

Don't you mean "terrorist countries are closer to the "civilized" world than Europe or Canada?

9/1/2005 3:16:47 PM

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"There were no terrorists in Iraq before we invaded."


Absolutely ludicrous. There wasn't much al Qaeda to speak of in Iraq, but there certainly were terrorists and supporters of terrorists.

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"Saudi Arabia beheads people out in the open

zero human rights

Let's bomb them"


More or less agreed.

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"There are terrorists in Saudi Arabia

There are terrorists in North Korea

There are terrorists in Sri Lanka

There are terrorists in Pakistan

There are terrorists in India

There are terrorists in Russia"


The ones in Russia, India, and Sri Lanka don't particularly want to kill us, and I think Russia and India (maybe not Sri Lanka) can take care of their own houses. The rest of those countries I agree we should do something about, either in whole or in part.

9/1/2005 4:13:44 PM

esgargs
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So when were the Iraqis killing Americans?

How many 9/11 hijackers were Afghanis?

9/1/2005 4:17:16 PM

LoneSnark
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And how many of the pilots that attacked Pearl Harbor were German?

9/1/2005 4:30:24 PM

nutsmackr
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bad bad analogy

no dinner for you.

9/1/2005 4:31:22 PM

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"Purple-fingered Iraqi Islamic extremists."


Haha, no, they aren't doing the voting, they're blowing up the voters. If they destabilize the country over there well enough, the "wrong" people will get into power and fuck it all up.

9/1/2005 4:34:20 PM

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"So when were the Iraqis killing Americans?

How many 9/11 hijackers were Afghanis?"


First one makes quite a bit more sense than the second one. The 9/11 hijackers were selected by people in Afghanistan. If we want to use this line of reasoning, why don't we ask the terrorists how many Americans are driving the bulldozers that destroy Palestinian homes (or whatever else the Israelis do that they don't like?)

As to the first one...well gee, other than the first Gulf War, I've got nothing. I mean, they tried to kill Americans (like George Bush, Sr.) after the war, but I guess that doesn't count.

9/1/2005 5:43:45 PM

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