I am just curious, but how does one become an officer in the United States Navy?

By the way, is it odd for a college graduate to enlist in the military?

9/12/2005 9:10:49 PM

Any of the armed forces will take you. I mean, you are fucking Superman for christ sake

9/12/2005 9:14:36 PM

i thought about trying for a comission one more time, but then i dont think i can get fucked over for an 8th time

9/12/2005 9:22:22 PM

Go to the Marine Corps and its not odd for a college grad to enlist

9/12/2005 9:30:52 PM

what do you have to do after college to become an officer in the marines?

[Edited on September 12, 2005 at 9:32 PM. Reason : edit]

9/12/2005 9:31:49 PM

Usually it's just OCS.

My dad went into the Navy 12 years after he graduated.

9/12/2005 9:34:10 PM

yeah just go to OCS Officer Candidate School it's like 3 months long and then you do some type of training related to your specific job

9/12/2005 9:38:02 PM

somewhere there is a police department with an officer that got denied by the military 8 times

9/12/2005 9:38:06 PM

Go here
http://www.marines.com/officer_programs/?format=flash

9/12/2005 9:44:20 PM

http://www.navy.com/officer

9/12/2005 9:49:28 PM

[Edited on September 12, 2005 at 9:53 PM. Reason : .]

9/12/2005 9:53:30 PM

There's a Navy recruiting office at 801 Oberlin (big brick building...first floor). They have an officer recruiting office that can help you.

9/12/2005 9:59:22 PM

why do you want to join the military after college? (not judging... just curious)

9/12/2005 11:08:31 PM

whatever you do, don't go to a recruitment office to get information, they will lie their assess off to get you to enlist

9/12/2005 11:24:45 PM

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"whatever you do, don't go to a recruitment office to get information, they will lie their assess off to get you to enlist"

this is not true.

come to 801 oberlin rd and the officer recruiters can help you. if you would rather enlist, there is an enlisted programs office just down the hall.

i would suggest looking at officer programs first. depending on things like GPA, major, legal trouble, etc you may or may not be eligible. if your gpa is too low for officer, you can still enlist and find a program that suits you.

by the way, if your gpa is lower than a 3, there's not much in the officer programs that you can get into competitively.

pilot and navy flight officer fill up fast. their fiscal year starts in october and is usually full by november.

if you are medical, there are lots of openings. dentist, nurse, etc.

chaplins fill fast i think.

supply is huge.

all of these questions and the actual number of openings available can be answer if you come down or call. I can give you the number if you'd rather call.

9/13/2005 12:00:39 AM

So is this true with all armed forces? You can go in after college, attend OCS, and get your butter bar? I'm assuming you still attend enlisted man's boot camp, right?

9/13/2005 9:54:18 AM

if you're an electrical/computer engineer and/or know arabic

YOU'RE HIRED!!

9/13/2005 10:31:51 AM

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"if you're an electrical/computer engineer and/or know arabic can walk YOU'RE HIRED!!"

9/13/2005 10:33:26 AM

well that too

9/13/2005 10:35:00 AM

that was definitely true when I got picked up, but I hear it is much more competitive now. I never would have been selected in the past year or two.

Just to get some info about OCS is like, check out http://www.usnavyocs.com and http://www.airwarriors.com

9/13/2005 10:38:53 AM

No, officers don't attend enlisted boot camp.

9/13/2005 1:20:21 PM

Yeah I did some reading up on it out of curiosity and see that they mix a lot of PT in with the classes at OCS.

9/13/2005 1:56:20 PM

attended an air show recently. the recruiters who were there looked rather pathetic.

hummer h2's with expensive a/v systems, big ass wheels, vinyl graphics, etc...

basketball half-courts.

they were giving hope to people who would never qualify for OCS.

9/13/2005 2:08:36 PM

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"whatever you do, don't go to a recruitment office to get information, they will lie their asses[s]s[/] off to get you to enlist"

misspelled asses


anyway, while recruiters may not outright lie to you, they will sure as shit tell you almost anything to get you to join. for instance, i was talking with a navy recruiter once and i told him that i wanted to go to college, and he told me "well the navy will fly professors out to boats so you can take classess on the boat and get your degree in the navy." after some more bs and half-truths, as well as pressure to sign up before enlistment bonus money ran out, i just got fed up and left.

9/13/2005 2:54:42 PM

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"by the way, if your gpa is lower than a 3, there's not much in the officer programs that you can get into competitively. "

Go Army, we don't care about your GPA! Hell, we don't care if you've had 30 hours or you whole degree, we'll take you (for OCS) anyway!

9/13/2005 3:39:45 PM

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"I am just curious, but how does one become an officer in the United States Navy? By the way, is it odd for a college graduate to enlist in the military? "

1. if you've already graduated, all branches offer an OCS of some sort.
2. no. i've met plenty of enlisted Marines with college degrees.

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"what do you have to do after college to become an officer in the marines?"

http://www.marineofficer.com

or call 919-790-3052. there are two Marine Captains there (office is in the post office building by Cameron Village) who will help you out.

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"So is this true with all armed forces? You can go in after college, attend OCS, and get your butter bar? I'm assuming you still attend enlisted man's boot camp, right? "

yes, except that you go through a different boot camp. the Marines i've met who've done both usually say that OCS is harder, and definitely physically more demanding, but Parris Island and San Diego are more miserable.

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"if you're an electrical/computer engineer and/or know arabic can walk YOU'RE HIRED"

not as an officer. i bet in the USMC, as many people get turned down than get accepted (if not, it's def a substantial percentage). then half of those who get accepted get attrited or quit during OCS.

i know another guy who had to get Senator Dole involved to ENLIST in the USMC in INFANTRY. he'd sustained a knee injury and had to have surgery, but he was recovered to the point that he could max out the physical fitness test easily, ran prob 50+ miles per week, and competed in full contact Muay Thai and BJJ tournaments.

[Edited on September 13, 2005 at 4:54 PM. Reason : btw,i worked in the USMC officer recruiting office for 2 months while waiting for a school to start.]

9/13/2005 4:54:05 PM

try and get into the ROTC program at State?


what major are you?


go enlisted then pick up officer...that way you get O1E-O3E....bigger money in that


if you can get into the nuke program, its hard, but for enlisted to officer turnover, its pretty high here

9/16/2005 7:26:29 PM

I got this email the other day from a navy recruiter.

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"The Department of Naval Reactors is screening qualified students for highly technical positions as Nuclear Officers, Research and Design Engineers, and Nuclear Instructors. While in school, students selected for these positions receive a $12,000 program accession bonus ($10,000 paid immediately, and the remaining $2,000 paid upon training completion). Additionally, you will receive a $2,280 retainer every month until you graduate. This retainer will also be paid during the summer months, regardless of your enrollment status. Following graduation, Nuclear Officers participate in an 18-month graduate level education program at Nuclear Power School in Charleston, SC. It's a quarter-million dollar education that provides intensive instruction in the areas of nuclear, electrical, materials, systems, chemical, and mechanical engineering. Because of their exceptional qualifications, Nuclear Officers enjoy an excellent starting salary, which automatically increases to over $80,000 within five years. Other benefits include opportunities for a fully funded graduate degree, international travel to places like Europe, Japan, Hawaii, and Australia, and the best "hands-on" engineering and managerial experience you'll find in any industry. You will not be relegated to a cubicle or a lab bench. Each of these positions will place you in a supervisory role immediately - leading others on missions of international significance. These are NOT ROTC programs. Selected applicants have no outside requirements to drill, get haircuts, wear uniforms, et cetera. The only requirement is to continue what you've been doing all along: maintaining strong academic performance. You must be less than 29 years of age and, because you will be processed for a Top Secret security clearance, you must be a U.S. citizen. In addition to US citizenship, basic requirements include: good physical condition with no serious medical issues, and no criminal history. Again, congratulations on your decision to pursue a challenging education at North Carolina State. This degree will definitely open doors for your future, and is the reason that this opportunity is available to you now. I urge you to set aside any stereotypes you may have of the military, research the facts of this program, and seriously consider this opportunity. It is extremely marketable in both the military and civilian sectors. If you would like to talk to me in person to learn more about the program, please call (919) 831-4152 between the hours of 9 and 5 or respond to this email. In return, I would also appreciate a current local telephone number and mailing address. I look forward to answering your questions. STSCS/ss Andrew D. Frahm Navy Representative"

9/16/2005 7:43:24 PM

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"somewhere there is a police department with an officer that got denied by the military 8 times"

i wasnt denied dipshit i was fucked over for bullshit medical reasons but i dont feel like going into that again now

9/16/2005 7:54:22 PM

^^ yes, the email is legit and the guy won't lie to you. all the numbers are right. if you are interested, give him a reply.

9/17/2005 8:04:27 PM

it's better to go to college first because you can go in as an officer.

my brother has been a marine for 4 years and is going to start ncsu next year so he can be an officer when he gets out.

9/17/2005 9:17:13 PM

someone's got a fat neck.

9/17/2005 9:57:24 PM

^^^I never said i didn't think it was legit. I was just posting it.

9/17/2005 10:26:00 PM

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""well the navy will fly professors out to boats so you can take classess on the boat and get your degree in the navy." "

uhh thats how my dad got his masters.... it is true.
he has a masters in business admin from oklahoma state university and hes never even been to oklahoma

9/18/2005 12:40:59 AM

10/1/2005 8:16:46 PM

well that is all fine and dandy if you are on a surface boat large enough to have a professor or three flown in to give you those classes. if you are on a sub you are fucked......you have to wait until you have enough inport time to take those courses or wait till you get some shore duty.

10/16/2005 3:02:45 AM

yvan eht nioj

10/16/2005 4:46:53 AM

the Navy has several officer programs. If your an engineering major of any sort, you can test for the nuke officer program. they enlist you while you finish school but you don't wear a uniform and you report to a supervising officer in Raleigh till you graduate. don't deal with an enlisted recruiter though. call the enlisted recruiter and ask them for the officer recruiter number.

Coast Guard is the way to go though. We do more cool shit on a daily basis. plus we work at the beach.

[Edited on October 16, 2005 at 5:37 AM. Reason : m/i]

10/16/2005 5:34:40 AM

yeah
i was at a thing for the coast gaurd in atlantic beach thursday

that was THE SHIT

10/16/2005 11:33:24 AM

Friggen puddle jumpers

10/16/2005 12:59:18 PM

Do not go enlisted with the idea that you will have an easier time getting picked up for an officer program. This myth has been passed around forever and many of my former superiors in the navy said that it was bullshit. I agree totally. You will hate life and you may or may not get picked up as an officer. The best thing to do is to get your degree and then join as an officer if you want to. If you are an officer on an aircraft carrier you will have a stateroom with maybe 1 or 2 roommates to start, special places to eat, and everyone kisses your ass. If you are enlisted like I was, you sleep 3 high in a berthing with a ton of other guys. Your sleeping area smells like FAN. For any of you who have never been on a warship and smelled it, that stands for Feet Ass and Nuts. I do reccomend being an officer if anyone is interested. Don't sell yourself short and go enlisted. I am just saying this as a former enlisted person that wishes I had gone to college first and spent my time being an officer instead of a glorified nuclear janitor. Any of you other former nukes know what I'm talking about.

10/16/2005 9:33:58 PM

shit, i have a higher opinion of enlisted people than you do, i think.

and at least in the USMC, being enlisted DOES help your odds of getting a commission, but I wouldn't enlist unless i just wanted to. there's no reason to enlist first IOT become an officer, unless you just want to be enlisted first.

10/16/2005 9:37:13 PM

theDuke866, I do hold all members of the military in very high regard. I am a veteran, and I did not mean to disrespect anyone. I just want people to understand being enlisted, in the navy at least, is not as good of a deal as being an officer. I agree with what you have to say. If someone wants to be enlisted, then I would support them just as people supported me. This topic was about officer programs, so I think it is important to make sure that people understand the difference. I was a nuke in the navy, and we did not have people to come down and clean our power plants. We operated, maintained, and cleaned everything we had. I am damn proud of the work that all of us did. It has definitely given me a different outlook on life. With that said, I wish I could have spent my six years as an officer. It would have been more worthwhile, and full of much less bullshit than it was. The first reenlistment bonus for people like me was 45,000 dollars, and I am not the only one who turned it down. I think that says a great deal about what it is like to be an enlisted nuke in the navy. I never had anyone tell me the truth about what I was getting myself into. I basically threw my life into a blender, and I am slowly putting my life back together. It is just not for everyone. I think each branch of the military finds pride in something different, and I am just speaking for my own personal experiences in the navy. I hope people will see where I am coming from and just leave it at that.

10/16/2005 9:48:58 PM

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"a glorified nuclear janitor"

Say it again, brother!

10/16/2005 9:55:53 PM

yeah, i'll go along with all that.

i mean, i love being an officer, and it's definitely a better life, especially compared to junior enlisted. i GET TIRED of how well i'm treated by enlisted personnel...i mean, all the perks are cool and all, but i hate it when i'm walking through the PX and people stop what they're doing to get the door for me, or stop their conversations to say "Good afternoon, sir!" when i walk by, or try to let me go in front of them if we're in line at the PX or admin or something when they walked up before i did, etc. well, i guess i don't hate it exactly...i just hate when i feel like i'm intruding on what people are doing. i mean, i'm flattered and all at the respect for my rank, but damn guys, i'm just a regular guy like you are. i just have a different job and responsibilities.

it makes smoke pour out of my ears when i see another officer with a holier-than-thou attitude towards the enlisted. it doesn't happen much, and the times i have seen it are basically always on the Navy side rather than the Marine side (i think the USMC does a better job of instilling that in its officers, and putting officers through the same--or often more severe--rigors as the enlisted Marines, and cultivating an attitude of "a Marine is a Marine is a Marine." plus, enlisted Marines, as a rule, impress me all the time and make it really easy to hold up my end of that mutual respect.

10/16/2005 10:07:24 PM

Like I said before, the Coast Guard is where it's at. I remember looking at those big grey ship's in GTMO and saying "I'm glad I didn't join the Navy."

10/16/2005 10:13:12 PM

I went to the recruiting place by cameron village while I was unemployed after college. 8 months after that first visit I was commissioned. OCS sucked but wasn't that bad. It's not odd for someone to enlist with a degree either.

10/16/2005 10:46:23 PM

whats the officer program like for the coast guard?

10/16/2005 11:48:40 PM

hey tenacious j,
well at least the surface nukes clean up after themselves. on my sub the nukes dont do shit. whenever we have a big whig come on board all the "coners" (that is foward non-nuke rates) have to go back and clean up for them. and now the SRB for most nukes is in upwards of $100k.........we just had a guy that put in for another 6 years and got an SRB of $97k........damn rediculous.....and they are also getting supervisory pay too. sucks ass..........as for being enlisted and going for officer.....it used to be easy about 5 years ago, but now they have consolidated all the programs into 2 or 3 that you can pick from and most of the time you can only qualify for one of those. i think there is one for medical personnel, seabees, and then the one for every one else. when i applied to it there were 1600 applicants and of that number only 400 were selected. so you are pretty much going against the best of the best in the enlisted numbers to get picked up.

10/17/2005 4:34:14 AM

For the CG it is pretty straight forward. Either go to the Academy, go to OCS, or apply for a direct commision if you have a certain degree ie marine engineering.

But the enlisted do most of the cool stuff. The officers are usually on cutters or at admin units.
Enlisted advancement is pretty quick in the CG too. I made E6 in less than 5 years and am waiting for the results of the servicewide for E7.

10/17/2005 8:00:43 AM