Besides the Law schools and Medical school , their isn't a big difference between UNC chapel hill's academic curriculum and NCSU curriculum . Why does everybody keep on ranting about UNC being considered a public IVY? IT is soooo overrated.NCSU physics program offers exactly the same courses under it's physics courses that UNC offers. Same goes for the Philosophy programs at both schools. Though I think NCSU state needs more public policy courses .

9/17/2005 6:51:37 PM

Ummm, Id say theres a BIG difference between our Engineering and theirs.

9/17/2005 6:56:29 PM

They don't even have an engineering program.

9/17/2005 6:58:40 PM

I was talking about physics. physics isn't engineering

9/17/2005 6:59:19 PM

Well actually it is. but part. anyway. I don't think the people at unc are any smarter than the people at state. A GPA doesn't mean anything . It is like a deck of cards. Once you finish playing with the deck, you will not remember the last hand you played.

9/17/2005 7:01:51 PM

the b-schools are very different

9/17/2005 7:19:14 PM

what is NCSU state?

9/17/2005 7:21:20 PM

what the heck is a b schools

9/17/2005 7:23:14 PM

Having the same courses doesn't, in any way, mean the schools are of the same quality. It depends on a lot of things.

9/17/2005 7:23:30 PM

b-school = business school

quite common terminology

9/17/2005 7:30:52 PM

Nor does having a high ranking mean it is that I am guranteed a good job out of college . It also depends on how you define quality. I agree with you that having in the sense that a bunch of courses makes it a good program. I do not agree that their is a big difference in teaching quality between NCSU and UNC. I also believe that the student body as a whole isn't less or more intelligent than when comparing NCSU or UNC. In fact to put the icing on the cake , I totally am against AP courses and vocational courses in high school . I thinking we are failing to provide a substantial education for the other group of students taking vocational courses. The school should not cater to a certain group of students. Vocational and shop class kids have the potential to learn calculus ,metaphysics and Shakespeare just like the students who are in college prep.

9/17/2005 7:32:47 PM

State doesnt have the money UNC has

9/17/2005 7:40:30 PM

unc has that bomb ass pussy

9/17/2005 7:51:39 PM

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" I totally am against AP courses and vocational courses in high school . I thinking we are failing to provide a substantial education for the other group of students taking vocational courses. The school should not cater to a certain group of students. Vocational and shop class kids have the potential to learn calculus ,metaphysics and Shakespeare just like the students who are in college prep. "

They also are just as capable as signing up for AP courses as anyone else. AFAIK, there is no restriction for signing up for the honors or AP section of a particular class (except I do recall idiot counselors deterring students from doing this at my HS).

9/17/2005 8:27:41 PM

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"the b-schools are very different"

Maybe if you are talking PhD or MBA, but as an undergrad they are the same. They both hold the same full AACSB accreditation.

9/17/2005 8:43:13 PM

Actually, I was discouraged from taking AP classes at my high school. When they are supposed to direct to two options they only direct a certain number of students to one way and a certain number of students to only one direction. So instead of being cater the consequences of taking AP classes and the many doors it can open up , I had to encourage myself to take AP classes.

[Edited on September 17, 2005 at 9:01 PM. Reason : Did not finish comment]

9/17/2005 8:59:55 PM

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"I totally am against AP courses and vocational courses in high school . I thinking we are failing to provide a substantial education for the other group of students taking vocational courses"

what the fuck thats the dumbest thing i have heard

if anything we need more vocational courses

not everyone needs to go to college to go into a profession. there is nothing wrong with learning a trade and i think that mentallity is really hurting us. people who think like you are the reason why a basic liberal arts degree has been so devauled.

we need to invest more in vocational schools

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"Vocational and shop class kids have the potential to learn calculus ,metaphysics and Shakespeare"

and yet absolutely no reason if they are going to be a tradesman

learning a trade is an honorable thing to do, i dont know why you dismiss it

and also, judging from your posts im thinking you were "discouraged" from taking ap courses because your teachers could tell you lacked the basic logic required to perform at that level

[Edited on September 17, 2005 at 9:38 PM. Reason : .]

9/17/2005 9:36:34 PM

They have their own classics library in the building where they teach classics, with columns outside, and Greek god statues inside.

We have a guy who gets assigned a different building each semester who admits to liking his drinks, and is outpaced by his students who read the book.

In their classics room they have a desk where they can press buttons to activate 2 different slide projects, a drop down screen, a camera on the desk to show papers, lower and raise the shades, the lights, hard wood floors, nice desks that aren't written all over.

We have a crowded room in harrelson where the same stuff is taught my history teachers who checks out books from our library only to be given so much trouble by the library that he complains about it almost every class period. He holds up an old book with tears in it and shows the pictures to one side of the class and then the other like my kindergarten teacher used to do, where half the people couldn't see.

They have Philosophy PhDs, we after alot of work and complaining by our professors have a graduate level minor in biological or environmental ethics.

Granted I haven't had many classes at UNC, and they have been in the areas I'm interested in - classics & philosophy. With inter-institutional classes you are only allowed to take them at other schools if our school doesn't offer it, but they let me take classes there simply because their program was so much better that it didn't compare.

I had to go by the offices in harris hall for a few hours each day for a week and was given all kinds of crap because the women working their didn't like college students. My UNC professor went out of his way to contact me and make sure I got everything settled okay with them, and signed everything I needed before I had asked, and sent me to their registration and records which had so many helpful employees that there was 0 wait time and everything was approved in 5 minutes instead of over a week with a few hours each day.

NCSU is better if you want an engineering or vet job, UNC is better for everything else.

I think NCSU isn't inherently worse, but I think with the number of students we have the bureaucracy has reached an amazing height.

9/17/2005 9:54:19 PM

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" Maybe if you are talking PhD or MBA, but as an undergrad they are the same. They both hold the same full AACSB accreditation. "

actually the undergrad business schools (not business major) are completely different

9/17/2005 10:18:42 PM

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"NCSU is better if you want an engineering or vet job, UNC is better for everything else. "

I like how you've extrapolated "they teach classics better" into "they teach everything but the ag shit better."

Bells and whistles aside, I am confident that my own CHASS education here can hold its own with Chapel Hill any day of the week. The students? Not always so bright. The teachers? Top-notch, intelligent people with real-world experience and an ability to teach
.

9/18/2005 12:52:57 AM

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"The students? Not always so bright."

I'm sure that's true at UNC as well.

9/18/2005 1:13:47 AM

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"I was talking about physics. physics isn't engineering"

engineering is applied physics

9/18/2005 1:15:08 AM

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"I think NCSU isn't inherently worse, but I think with the number of students we have the bureaucracy has reached an amazing height."

I agree.

Also, in terms of science, I believe that we have the best resources for non-medical research. UNC is the best place to go if you're interested in the medical field, but otherwise, I feel like we're superior in our scientific research.

Something I found especially irritating about UNC is their library set-up -- they have numerous libraries throughout the campus (including a Botany library, or is it the biological sciences library? It's referenced in the system as both), and they close around 5:30. It was just irritating as hell to drive up there for a book and have to track down the specific library, only to find that it closes somewhat early in the evening. Maybe I've just been spoiled by our 24-hour D.H. Hill -- but their system seems sort of ridiculous to me.

9/18/2005 11:39:07 AM

engineering may be physics but physics most definitely IS NOT engineering holy christ

9/18/2005 11:44:13 AM

UNC > NCSU. Get over it.

9/18/2005 11:49:19 AM

USA > Russia. Get over it.

9/18/2005 2:45:45 PM

^rofl.


also, Penzoate, stop starting threads. k thx.

9/18/2005 2:49:56 PM

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"USA > Russia"

yeah that was pretty good.gg

9/18/2005 2:55:57 PM

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"Actually, I was discouraged from taking AP classes at my high school."

Based on the perceived intelligence gleaned from your posts, I can't say this is at all surprising. Please stop posting and switch to Communication.

9/18/2005 3:06:00 PM

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"They don't even have an engineering program."

UNC offers a Computer Science degree

9/18/2005 3:32:03 PM

Seriously, Penzoate, is English your second language? I'm just curious.

9/18/2005 3:36:22 PM

Is asking repetitive questions your pasttime?

9/18/2005 3:42:28 PM

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"Actually, I was discouraged from taking AP classes at my high school."

Was that all AP classes or just AP english?

9/18/2005 3:47:25 PM

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"UNC offers a Computer Science degree "

comp science is often not considered an engineering discipline.

9/18/2005 3:53:46 PM

^^^ Are horrible spelling and grammar yours?

9/18/2005 4:11:50 PM

"USA > Russia. Get over it."

totally.

9/19/2005 8:59:20 AM

comp science is often not considered an engineering discipline.

See? I can make claims and not prove anything too!

9/19/2005 9:14:23 AM

As if where you go for an undergraduate degree actually matters.

Given the same degree,

an employer is not going to give a fuck where you went for said degree, as long as it's an accredited institution.

9/19/2005 9:38:00 AM

Lavim, it wasn't even in our engineering school until a few years back. many schools still do not list it as an engineering discipline. so to say that carolina having a CS program doesnt mean much about their engineering program, is quite true.

secondly im responding to NerdChick and others who are comparing programs, while you are just being a dumbass.

9/19/2005 9:48:01 AM

The only people who really think that UNC sucks or that State sucks are the ones who grew up here in NC and play into the whole ACC rivalry thing. They're both good schools, and each one can claim to have something better than the other. State gets treated like the redheaded stepchild when compared to UNC or Duke, because UNC and Duke are consistently ranked in the top 30 overall each year (with Wake Forest quietly tying with UNC this year), even though people seem to overlook the fact that many of State's individual programs are ranked high as well, and State ranks #78 overall, which is not an unimpressive feat. As an alum of both State and UNC, I can't really say that the students from one school are any smarter than the other; they just have different ways of expressing it.

9/19/2005 11:14:04 AM

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"b-school = business school quite common terminology"

if you take nothing with you from this thread,
know this
calling a business school a "b-school" is not common terminology and it very very gay

9/19/2005 11:14:29 AM

I mentioned computer science because here at State it is part of the College of Engineering.

http://www.engr.ncsu.edu/

(although I didn't know it was only included recently)

9/19/2005 12:28:34 PM

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"their isn't a big difference between UNC chapel hill's academic curriculum"

apparently one school teaches proper usage of there/their/they're and one doesn't

9/19/2005 12:32:55 PM

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"USA > Russia. Get over it."

I mean is it hard to see why UNC is better then this school?

9/19/2005 12:42:50 PM

No, it is not hard to see why UNC is better thenthan this school.

9/19/2005 1:00:22 PM

Point proven.

9/19/2005 1:02:24 PM

everyone here is biased since they go to NC STATE. regardless of what anyone says unless you are a engineering student, textile, traditionally or AGR students; UNC is a better school both academically, socially, and on paper when looking for a job

[Edited on September 19, 2005 at 4:26 PM. Reason : l]

9/19/2005 4:25:52 PM

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"unless you are a engineering student, textile"

Check. Check.

9/19/2005 4:58:29 PM

NCSU's English dept has more highly accredited (wrong term, but fits) professors than Carolina's.

Carolina just has a kickass journalism school.

9/19/2005 5:31:05 PM

this is a lounge thread at best

9/19/2005 5:52:48 PM