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BigMan157
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point me to a few sites that will educate me on how best to use CSS to design a website

don't say google ok

9/21/2005 3:50:51 PM

qntmfred
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are you looking for syntax tutorials or design principles tutorials

9/21/2005 4:16:06 PM

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message_topic.aspx?topic=343538&page=1

9/21/2005 4:29:02 PM

BigMan157
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both

9/21/2005 4:36:05 PM

seedless
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send me a pm so i will not forget when i get home to send you a great site.

9/21/2005 4:47:19 PM

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Don't use the AWP, god, don't use the AWP...

9/21/2005 4:53:37 PM

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http://css.maxdesign.com.au/

9/21/2005 9:10:04 PM

BigMan157
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thx

9/21/2005 9:24:22 PM

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http://www.w3schools.com/

9/21/2005 10:29:12 PM

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google for "Eric Meyer"

9/21/2005 10:30:07 PM

skokiaan
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learn what selectors are and the different types of selectors

9/21/2005 10:39:26 PM

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Try this for basics: http://www.westciv.com/style_master/academy/hands_on_tutorial/index.html

I found it was best to simply look at how people did specific things. Look at the different designs of the same site and see what does what then copy the files and alter until you get the feel for it...
http://csszengarden.com/
http://www.mezzoblue.com/zengarden/alldesigns/

9/21/2005 11:22:15 PM

BigMan157
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so i got a site looking nice in FireFox but looking shit in IE

how can i go about fixing that

[Edited on September 22, 2005 at 6:23 PM. Reason : IE doesn't like the div tag ]

9/22/2005 6:19:00 PM

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Quote :
"IE doesn't like the div tag"


hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha




welcome to hell

9/22/2005 6:34:51 PM

BigMan157
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i just shoved tables into all the divs and got it looking acceptable

9/22/2005 6:56:09 PM

BigMan157
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someone point me to some javascript that detects resolution plz

9/22/2005 7:15:09 PM

skokiaan
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^^ that's worse than just using divs or just using tables.

9/22/2005 7:21:46 PM

BigMan157
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eh, it works though

is there a way to get a table to stretch all the way across the screen without manually setting the width? i tried the left attribute but that didn't work

[Edited on September 22, 2005 at 7:36 PM. Reason : EDIT]

9/22/2005 7:27:19 PM

skokiaan
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width = 100%?

9/22/2005 7:52:15 PM

BigMan157
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that'll work

i've been working in pixels primarily

[Edited on September 22, 2005 at 7:59 PM. Reason : then again maybe it won't work]

9/22/2005 7:56:28 PM

BigMan157
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so here's a question

<table class="pics">
<tr>
<td><a class="links1" href="X.jpg"><center><img class="pic" height=120px src="X.jpg"></center><br><br><p class="links1">X</p></a></td>
<td><a class="links1" href="Y"><center><img class="pic" height=120px src="Y"></center><br><br><p class="links1">Y</p></a></td>
</tr>
<tr><a class="links1" href="Z"><center><img class="pic" height=120px src="Z"></center><br><br><p class="links1">Z</p></a></tr>
<tr><a class="links1" href="Q"><center><img class="pic" height=100px src="Q"></center><br><br><p class="links1">Q</p></a></tr>
</table>


how come only X and Y will appear in the box with styles from "pics" and the other two appear outside of it with no styling?

9/23/2005 5:24:55 PM

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9/23/2005 5:35:25 PM

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<table class="pics">
<tr>
<td><a class="links1" href="X.jpg"><center><img class="pic" height=120px src="X.jpg"></center><br><br><p class="links1">X</p></a></td>
<td><a class="links1" href="Y"><center><img class="pic" height=120px src="Y"></center><br><br><p class="links1">Y</p></a></td>
</tr>
<tr><td><a class="links1" href="Z"><center><img class="pic" height=120px src="Z"></center><br><br><p class="links1">Z</p></a></td></tr>
<tr><td><a class="links1" href="Q"><center><img class="pic" height=100px src="Q"></center><br><br><p class="links1">Q</p></a></td></tr>
</table>

9/23/2005 6:58:19 PM

BigMan157
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yeah i had already figured it out

thx though

9/23/2005 7:50:37 PM

BigMan157
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is there a way to have a table extend out from the page but not cause the horizontal scrol bar to appear?

9/25/2005 6:38:30 PM

Noen
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tables != css.

stop using tables for positioning.

9/25/2005 8:33:54 PM

BigMan157
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i'm using tables for a solid bar of color because the div doesn't work

div.redbar	{
background-color: #C60001;
position: absolute;
height: 24px;
top: 100px;
left: 0px;
width: 100%;
z-index: 2;
}


works fine in firefox but not IE so i had to resort to a different method

[Edited on September 25, 2005 at 9:32 PM. Reason : k]

9/25/2005 9:31:11 PM

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it works if you do it correctly. there's more than one way to do it and not every way will work across platforms. oh the joys of css.

9/25/2005 11:34:36 PM

BigMan157
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so offer advice instead of criticism douche

9/25/2005 11:38:41 PM

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!

9/26/2005 12:12:37 AM

skokiaan
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without seeing the specific code, you might have to put a nbsp in the div to get it to show up.

[Edited on September 26, 2005 at 12:26 AM. Reason : dfs]

9/26/2005 12:26:37 AM

BigMan157
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<div class="redbar"><table class="redbr"><tr><td></td></tr></table></div>



.redbr {
background-color: #C60001;
position: absolute;
height: 24px;
width: 100%;
z-index: 2;
}


[Edited on September 26, 2005 at 12:28 AM. Reason : ]

9/26/2005 12:28:10 AM

qntmfred
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try spelling redbar correctly

<div class="redbar"><br></div> will work. no need for tables

9/26/2005 1:13:18 AM

Noen
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actually its <br/>

[Edited on September 26, 2005 at 2:00 AM. Reason : .]

9/26/2005 2:00:21 AM

qntmfred
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yeah, for xhtml you should close the br tag, but meh...

9/26/2005 2:26:12 AM

BigMan157
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yeah that got rid of the need for the table, but it still doesn't extend all the way across the screen in IE

i think the problem is IE needs a width of 102% to be all the way across the screen and that causes scrolling in Firefox

9/26/2005 8:11:02 AM

qntmfred
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IE gives the body tag a default margin of 8px or something. set it to 0 and it should take up the full line

9/26/2005 8:33:02 AM

skokiaan
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WELCOME TO HELL

9/26/2005 9:30:21 AM

BigMan157
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aha, thx qntmfred

9/26/2005 10:31:20 AM

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http://www.cssdrive.com/

Great examples of quality CSS sites

9/27/2005 3:11:54 PM

BigMan157
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how can i get rid of that gap between picture and table border?



i've tried

img.lh	{
margin: 0 0 0 0;
padding: 0 0 0 0;
}

table.sLinks {
border: 3px solid #C60001;
background-image: url('textbg2.jpg');
background-repeat: repeat;
width: 130px;
margin: 0 0 0 0;
padding: 0 0 0 0;
}

to no effect

9/27/2005 5:00:05 PM

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why hasn't this been linked yet...


http://www.alistapart.com/

9/27/2005 5:22:33 PM

BigMan157
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^^btw i found a way around that

9/27/2005 5:22:58 PM

BigMan157
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how can i get IE to always show the vertical scrollbar?

10/3/2005 12:26:58 PM

qntmfred
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IE DOES always show the vertical scrollbar

10/3/2005 12:42:27 PM

BigMan157
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so i guess i got to figure out what i did to eliminate it then :-/

10/3/2005 8:05:30 PM

BigMan157
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figured it out

it was because of the iframe that the page was in when you forward the domain

10/4/2005 12:57:41 AM

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http://dezwozhere.com/links.html

10/4/2005 6:04:02 PM

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this thread is a lollercaust.

most questions asked and then answered by the person who asked EVER.

10/4/2005 6:06:19 PM

BigMan157
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well tech talk is pretty useless besides apple vs. windows vs. linux threads

10/4/2005 7:04:12 PM

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