PackMan03 All American 4594 Posts user info edit post |
http://theacc.collegesports.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/102305aaa.html 10/23/2005 7:18:19 PM |
Cif82 All American 10455 Posts user info edit post |
This is Clemson's year to finally be in the top 1/3 of the conference. 10/23/2005 7:22:52 PM |
tracer All American 13876 Posts user info edit post |
4th seems reasonable, but behind wake? 10/23/2005 8:55:57 PM |
wolfAApack All American 9980 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Preseason Rookie of the Year: Tyler Hansbrough, North Carolina" |
I had a UNC student tell me yesterday that this kid is a total fag. If its comming from a UNC fag, then it must be true.10/23/2005 9:02:47 PM |
ssjamind All American 30102 Posts user info edit post |
i'd put Ga Tech much higher 10/23/2005 9:03:34 PM |
wolfAApack All American 9980 Posts user info edit post |
^um....they lost EVERYONE, literally. Go look at their roster. Its kinda sad. 10/23/2005 9:05:19 PM |
ssjamind All American 30102 Posts user info edit post |
so did Carolina, but i'd also rank them higher 10/23/2005 9:06:34 PM |
wolfAApack All American 9980 Posts user info edit post |
well they had a ridiculous recruiting class. 10/23/2005 9:08:37 PM |
phishnlou All American 13446 Posts user info edit post |
tech will be miserable 10/23/2005 9:10:23 PM |
DROD900 All American 24658 Posts user info edit post |
a good friend of mine who is working on his degree in athletic training and sits in on the bball practices says that we look really really good this year so far, everyone on the team shoots lights out from just about everywhere. Brackman has beefed up some, as has Gavin Grant and Cedric Simmons. He said that the coaches have been treating Grant as a team leader alongside Bennerman and Evtimov. The freshmen are coming around and McCauley looks the most comfortable so far in our style of offense. He swears up and down that we will be a national title contender in a year or two 10/23/2005 9:37:58 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha 10/23/2005 9:39:56 PM |
DROD900 All American 24658 Posts user info edit post |
I dunno man, we have a pretty deep team right now who all believe in Sendeks system.
if the freshmen this year are anywhere near as good as our freshmen from last year theres no reason we wouldnt be a powerhouse in a year or two...I bet we'll turn some heads this year 10/23/2005 9:54:22 PM |
wolfAApack All American 9980 Posts user info edit post |
I think Grant or this Fells kid just needs to step up as that playmaker that Hodge was, and we'll be fine. I'm not gonna expect much, after all, this is NC State we're talking about here, but I agree that we have some tallent and should not be overlooked.
Also, with a team as deep as we should be, there is no reason to play this fucking slow down ball that seems to get us in trouble. Yeah, hold it untill we have a shot, but stop passing it at the half court just to kill time....god thats the only part of Sendek's system that pisses me off, and man does it piss me off. Duke plays that slow down offense too when they have big leads in big games, and it always ends up backfiring. 10/23/2005 10:01:52 PM |
coppertop wolpfack! 1803 Posts user info edit post |
at leat there is a glimmer of hope for us during this sad football season... never thought I'd look this much forward to basketball season... sheez! 10/23/2005 10:44:21 PM |
socrates Suspended 1964 Posts user info edit post |
were better than wake. i have us 3rd 10/24/2005 2:29:21 AM |
ncWOLFsu Gottfather FTL 12586 Posts user info edit post |
i like the idea of another harlem star
although, i heard a lot about fells coming in and being similar to hodge too. either way, i just want to win games. 10/24/2005 3:13:43 AM |
Fry The Stubby 7784 Posts user info edit post |
i just want to be carolina once just so they'll shut up for a couple of hours. 10/24/2005 5:25:52 AM |
ballingolfer Veteran 304 Posts user info edit post |
any chance of there bein another open practice like last year? 10/24/2005 7:05:21 AM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
Ill bravely go on record and say we beat Carolina both games this year Fry. 10/24/2005 2:35:18 PM |
adder All American 3901 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Also, with a team as deep as we should be, there is no reason to play this fucking slow down ball that seems to get us in trouble. Yeah, hold it untill we have a shot, but stop passing it at the half court just to kill time....god thats the only part of Sendek's system that pisses me off, and man does it piss me off. Duke plays that slow down offense too when they have big leads in big games, and it always ends up backfiring.
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The passing at halfcourt is what gives us the spacing to do the cuts that are so necessary to setting up our offense. If you remember last year in the early part of the season we were setting up by the arc and it was killing our game it is the primary reason we sucked so bad early in the season IMHO.10/24/2005 4:49:23 PM |
JT3bucky All American 23258 Posts user info edit post |
im really glad that herb picks guys who have an awesome work habit though, guys that will play hard and practice hard, bennerman got an attitude last year, herb benches him and he plays the best game of his career...really shows he picks good kids that can move on the next level
should be an interesting year, i see Gavin really steppin up this year along with Bethel gettin it done if he can stay healthy 10/24/2005 4:59:16 PM |
SandSanta All American 22435 Posts user info edit post |
You guys are unbelievable. 10/24/2005 5:02:08 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
ranked 4th seems about right
and i like the way the pack play better under the radar anyway
rank em 8th for all i care, they will get the job done come conference time 10/24/2005 6:02:09 PM |
skankinande All American 28213 Posts user info edit post |
Theres no mention of Gavin in that article, he might not be back. 10/24/2005 6:04:15 PM |
PinkandBlack Suspended 10517 Posts user info edit post |
^if bethel wasnt gonna be playing this year, they would probably have said something like "the pack did take one tough loss recently, when they learned that sophmore reserve gavin grant would not be able to play this year due to questions over his right to be in the country."
something like that. 10/24/2005 6:06:27 PM |
bubbevan All American 1600 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "im really glad that herb picks guys who have an awesome work habit though, guys that will play hard and practice hard, bennerman got an attitude last year, herb benches him and he plays the best game of his career...really shows he picks good kids that can move on the next level" |
Effort goes a long way in my book. I think this is Bennerman's big year. He was getting really fired up; focusing his emotions in his play and it was helping a lot towards the end of the season, if that makes sense10/24/2005 6:39:51 PM |
SouthPaW12 All American 10141 Posts user info edit post |
oh it'd be sick nasty to beat UNC in basketball this year 10/24/2005 6:40:49 PM |
calee All American 583 Posts user info edit post |
The Preseason Rookie of the Year.
They could just as easily picked Chris McCoy.
10/24/2005 6:59:28 PM |
DaveOT All American 11945 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "McCauley looks the most comfortable so far in our style of offense." |
That's kind of a shock--I honestly thought he'd be the last one to catch on to it.10/24/2005 7:55:43 PM |
Wtbrowne32 Veteran 414 Posts user info edit post |
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Fuel All American 7016 Posts user info edit post |
We're overrated again
fabulous 10/24/2005 9:20:15 PM |
PinkandBlack Suspended 10517 Posts user info edit post |
^^aha
Kris Lang V. 2.0
^how the hell are we overrated? who thats listed below us looks better on paper right now?
[Edited on October 24, 2005 at 9:22 PM. Reason : .] 10/24/2005 9:21:25 PM |
Fuel All American 7016 Posts user info edit post |
Maryland
because on paper its Gary Williams vs Herb Sendek 10/24/2005 9:23:56 PM |
AxlBonBach All American 45550 Posts user info edit post |
streets of philadelphia 10/24/2005 9:26:12 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Maryland
because on paper its Gary Williams vs Herb Sendek" |
Yeah because we didnt beat them by 20 both times last year.
Quit with the bitchin about Herb. Dear God.10/24/2005 9:48:36 PM |
bubster5041 All American 1164 Posts user info edit post |
great, more expectations 10/24/2005 10:03:12 PM |
Fuel All American 7016 Posts user info edit post |
^^Gary Williams has a National Championship ring and an ACC tourney ring. He's taken very average teams talent-wise to the sweet 16 and beyond.
Herb's got nothin on that. Before last year Herb was GW's bitch for a LONG time. Learn some history before you act like Herb has GW's number.
[Edited on October 25, 2005 at 2:24 AM. Reason : !] 10/25/2005 2:23:01 AM |
The Jackal All American 1495 Posts user info edit post |
^ We're 4-6, including ACC Tourney games, against UMd in the last 4 years. Not great, but certainly not enough to call Herb Gary's "bitch." 10/25/2005 9:31:22 AM |
BanjoMan All American 9609 Posts user info edit post |
PLEASE, someone with sports knowledge, PLEASE EXPLAIN why WF is above us at three.
I think that Miami deserves that spot a hell of a lot more than them. 10/25/2005 10:15:15 AM |
slackerb All American 5093 Posts user info edit post |
While I may not agree with it, I can see an argument being made for WF at three. I'll explain:
Star Power. -Justin Gray is the best perimeter threat in the ACC besides Reddick, and everyone who's watched him play knows he's a tough kid who when he gets on, can take a game over. - Eric Williams - will dominate the inside in the ACC against virtually everyone but Williams. Could be All-ACC and even garner some National attention if he plays well.
Though there is a significant drop in talent beyond these two, N.C. State lacks anyone with the kind of star power or ability that these two have. Actually, it's something that anyone beneath them in these rankings are without....legitimate stars.
[Edited on October 25, 2005 at 10:22 AM. Reason : .] 10/25/2005 10:22:03 AM |
THABIGL Suspended 618 Posts user info edit post |
by the way, i hear season tickets are still avaliable. glad to see so many people are excited to see us win 7 conference games again this year 10/25/2005 11:41:22 AM |
wolfAApack All American 9980 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Also, with a team as deep as we should be, there is no reason to play this fucking slow down ball that seems to get us in trouble. Yeah, hold it untill we have a shot, but stop passing it at the half court just to kill time....god thats the only part of Sendek's system that pisses me off, and man does it piss me off. Duke plays that slow down offense too when they have big leads in big games, and it always ends up backfiring.
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Quote : | "The passing at halfcourt is what gives us the spacing to do the cuts that are so necessary to setting up our offense. If you remember last year in the early part of the season we were setting up by the arc and it was killing our game it is the primary reason we sucked so bad early in the season IMHO." |
um....no
We played a bunch of games where we got a big lead by playing an uptempo game with hard defense. Look at the Duke and UNC games(unc game at home)...when we tried to slow the ball down, we lost the lead because we weren't looking to score anymore. Dont confuse passing the ball around at half court with spreading the floor...there is a HUGE difference. We get into trouble when we hang out at half court for 15-20 seconds before the ball even sees the 3 point line...this is what i think has to stop. I'm not bashing Herb's offense here, I'm bashing the way he handles this particular situation....I just think we have a better shot to win if we are more focused on scoring rather than running out the clock.10/25/2005 11:49:21 AM |
jdlongNCSU All American 7105 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Eric Williams - will dominate the inside in the ACC against virtually everyone but Williams. Could be All-ACC and even garner some National attention if he plays well." |
he will dominate the inside against a few ACC teams. but Williams can simply disappear from games if he gets frustrated. but without Paul they might make him the focal point of their offense. I thought that was one big problem with their team from last year...10/25/2005 11:53:27 AM |
wolfAApack All American 9980 Posts user info edit post |
^did you notice how he played when Paul wasnt in the game?
Me either, cause he didn't get the ball. Even with Downey playing point, they had problems getting it to him, so I dont think he will be as dominant this year as they're saying. 10/25/2005 11:57:03 AM |
slackerb All American 5093 Posts user info edit post |
^He didn't get the rock much last year because they didn't need him to be a superstar.
A guy that big without anyone of equal skill to oppose him WILL get the ball in a game. Saying they won't be able to get it to him is not a strong argument against Wake. Will the PG be able to get him amazing passes like Paul could...no. Will whoever is the PG get the ball to him. Sure.
^^He did disappear at times last year, but he has been improving on his foul trouble and apparently his stamina. If I was a betting man, I'd bet Williams has a big year in the paint against unskilled and small ACC counterparts.
With that said, I'm still not sure Wake deserves to be ahead of us...but I can see why the media picked them there.
[Edited on October 25, 2005 at 12:38 PM. Reason : .] 10/25/2005 12:35:13 PM |
PinkandBlack Suspended 10517 Posts user info edit post |
I actually hope he does well, I'd like to see him really challenge Fetal-Alcohol Syndrom in their games. I remember in HS hearing from people at WFR about how Eric was a pretty cool guy. 10/25/2005 12:37:57 PM |
slackerb All American 5093 Posts user info edit post |
You mean despite looking like Satan, or the bad guy in Legend?
There, I said it. 10/25/2005 12:39:04 PM |
rallydurham Suspended 11317 Posts user info edit post |
Im picking us 8th
below Duke, BC, Wake, Miami, VTech, Maryland, and UNC
ive got us ahead of FSU, GT, Clemson, and UVA 10/25/2005 12:41:21 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Wow that seems low? I am not one to see things with Red/White-tinted glasses but I think we will finish 3rd or 4th behind Duke, BC, and possibly Wake.. 10/25/2005 12:42:38 PM |
PinkandBlack Suspended 10517 Posts user info edit post |
EW would make a good movie villain
[Edited on October 25, 2005 at 12:45 PM. Reason : .] 10/25/2005 12:44:54 PM |