jrp Veteran 201 Posts user info edit post |
at 235 LBs just might be what the doctor orders for for our inside game this year. That is sick! That is heavier than Powell was in his short stay at NCSU and he was pretty danm decent.
What is everybodies thought on how he would match up against Eric and Sheldon Williams. I know that is Cedrics spot, but if he is injured and the fire that Brackman plays with he could tear some shit up. 10/27/2005 9:16:07 PM |
hondaguy All American 6409 Posts user info edit post |
did he weigh that much last year? 10/27/2005 9:19:15 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
...is my neighbor. 10/27/2005 9:21:01 PM |
jrp Veteran 201 Posts user info edit post |
he was 210 last year..maybe 215. 10/27/2005 9:24:09 PM |
jeffshelton All American 864 Posts user info edit post |
freshman 15 10/27/2005 9:24:57 PM |
package2 All American 1450 Posts user info edit post |
he's got an inch and a few lbs on Ced now 10/27/2005 9:26:39 PM |
packfan08 Veteran 139 Posts user info edit post |
Yea but B-Rack is a better outside player than inside. If he can face the basket against Sheldon and the other good centers then in my opinion he would own them just because he has good ball handling skills and can shoot. 10/27/2005 9:38:20 PM |
jrp Veteran 201 Posts user info edit post |
Didn't have some monster blocks last year at 215 lb? Sounds like we have our selves a verstile guy out there. 10/27/2005 9:44:51 PM |
rallydurham Suspended 11317 Posts user info edit post |
sometimes weight gain backfires for white guys.... shavlik randolph for instance
ill reserve judgment until i see him on the court.
if it doesnt zap his quickness, it should be a good thing. 10/27/2005 9:51:51 PM |
jrp Veteran 201 Posts user info edit post |
Do you think the Willams brothers would manhandle him in the post or should he (Brackman) be able to feed it to them? 10/27/2005 9:55:35 PM |
package2 All American 1450 Posts user info edit post |
i think Cedric actually had more blocks per game. or atleast for a while he did. I know packpride keeps showing the nice block Brackman had on Schenshure(sp?) where he pins the ball into the backboard. 10/27/2005 9:57:11 PM |
eleusis All American 24527 Posts user info edit post |
maybe he'll teach the basketball team how to juice up like the baseball team does. 10/27/2005 10:13:21 PM |
packfan08 Veteran 139 Posts user info edit post |
He prob wont' lose that much speed because as a pitcher for the baseball team I am sure he runs alot. 10/27/2005 11:00:55 PM |
jmpack15 All American 4470 Posts user info edit post |
pitchers don't run the way basketball players run. pitchers run distance, basketball players run sprints. brack could be in better shape than anyone on the team, but pitchers aren't usually too quick. 10/28/2005 8:22:27 AM |
cali_j2004 All American 3724 Posts user info edit post |
dem crackas cant ball 10/28/2005 8:25:10 AM |
ncWOLFsu Gottfather FTL 12586 Posts user info edit post |
he'll be good this year, but it will be his last year with the basketball team 10/28/2005 8:28:11 AM |
wolfpack2105 All American 12428 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "he'll be good this year, but it will be his last year with the basketball team" |
i highly doubt that, seeing as how we got a home/home scheduled with cincy for 07/08 just so Andrew can go play in front of his family.10/28/2005 8:35:39 AM |
BobbyDigital Thots and Prayers 41777 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "pitchers don't run the way basketball players run. pitchers run distance, basketball players run sprints. brack could be in better shape than anyone on the team, but pitchers aren't usually too quick." |
I don't know what you're talking about, but when I pitched back in the day, our coach had all us pitchers running wind sprints.10/28/2005 8:50:31 AM |
mrlebowski All American 9310 Posts user info edit post |
shav didn't put on muscle though, he was just chubby. remember when dunleavy put on all that muscle? the dude was BADASS 10/28/2005 8:55:22 AM |
Mr Scrumples Suspended 61466 Posts user info edit post |
B-RACK
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ncWOLFsu Gottfather FTL 12586 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i highly doubt that, seeing as how we got a home/home scheduled with cincy for 07/08 just so Andrew can go play in front of his family." |
even if it is in cincy, i dont think he will opt to miss a bunch of baseball games just for one basketball game. we'd have to make a deep tourney run this year or something for him to choose to stay. or, maybe he will play basketball at the beginning of the 08 season and then just stop when baseball season starts, i dunno.
i mean i wish he'd play basketball all four years, i'm just thinking he is going to shift his focus to baseball10/28/2005 9:34:19 AM |
markgoal All American 15996 Posts user info edit post |
Shav didn't beef up. He had more weight fluctuation than Oprah. 10/28/2005 9:35:26 AM |
bwagsncsu Veteran 176 Posts user info edit post |
not to get completely off subject, but can somebody please explain to me how shav is playing for the 76ers.... family connections or what? 10/28/2005 10:09:08 AM |
markgoal All American 15996 Posts user info edit post |
76ers President and General Manager Billy King http://www.nba.com/sixers/front_office/billy_king.html
Played for Duke in the 80s.
It's also extremely doubtful Shav makes the active roster unless aided by injuries. I mean Jason Capel is "playing for" the Bobcats, and Rusty Larue won some rings with the Bulls. 10/28/2005 10:35:14 AM |
gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
B-Rack will play this year and next, just not his senior year put $money on it 10/28/2005 11:03:30 AM |
rallydurham Suspended 11317 Posts user info edit post |
you guys are nuts. shav was a twig his freshman year and he was a big boy last year... 10/28/2005 11:14:22 AM |
mrlebowski All American 9310 Posts user info edit post |
big=chubby 10/28/2005 11:16:15 AM |
jwb9984 All American 14039 Posts user info edit post |
randolph was definitely a beast last year. he wasn't chubby. i saw him a couple times up at the carolina country club pool when i worked there over the summer. not chubby. just a beast. 10/28/2005 12:07:40 PM |
ParksNrec All American 8742 Posts user info edit post |
beast or not, he still sucked ass. 10/28/2005 12:23:39 PM |
jwb9984 All American 14039 Posts user info edit post |
indeed 10/28/2005 1:27:43 PM |
rallydurham Suspended 11317 Posts user info edit post |
exactly, the gains in size made him slow and lumbering...
he was a terrific shot blocker but thats it...
i think the weight gain will be good for Brackman, im just stating that it doesnt always produce positive results in all aspects...
apparentally NBA scouts are looking at him too now so i doubt he gives up on basketball at the end of this season unless things go really badly... 10/28/2005 1:39:58 PM |
jdlongNCSU All American 7105 Posts user info edit post |
Shav was always slow on his feet. he never had that quick first step you need in college.
and while Shav was good at shot blocking, i think part of that was because he got to play 4 and clean up behind Williams. 10/28/2005 1:51:30 PM |
rallydurham Suspended 11317 Posts user info edit post |
a lot of shavs minutes came when Williams was resting or in foul trouble...
he was a nice shot blocker, no need to attribute that to his teammates...
he just kinda sucked in every other facet of the game 10/28/2005 2:34:57 PM |
jmpack15 All American 4470 Posts user info edit post |
i think this is brackman's last hoops season as well. he'll be drafted in june '07 in the MLB draft, and he'll probably be advised by scouts, coaches, parents, etc... to sit out basketball in the winter of '06 just so he can focus on his pitching ability and draft stock.
BobbyDigital, i guess it varies on where you play baseball. I pitched in college and while we did run sprints with the team, we did plenty more long-distance running. 10/28/2005 3:19:14 PM |
rallydurham Suspended 11317 Posts user info edit post |
he's probably an NBA draft pick too though....
so I bet he plays his Jr season
he can make just as much money playing basketball and less chance of injury derailing his career...
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roddy All American 25834 Posts user info edit post |
he can make tons more in baseball, and I think it is guaranteed. There is no cap(i dont think) for "rookies" in baseball, like there is in the basketball the first few years. You sign a 50 million deal, you get it in baseball no mater if you are released, traded, etc. As a Pitcher in Baseball, he would(if he is good) have a longer career, and earn more money. You can Pitch and be "old" Unless he thinks he will be a lottery pick in basketball(doubtful) he should and probably will concentrate on his first love, baseball, after this season.
[Edited on October 29, 2005 at 11:46 AM. Reason : w] 10/29/2005 11:44:53 AM |
rallydurham Suspended 11317 Posts user info edit post |
^ not exactly
You get the signing bonus no matter what, but you don't start getting paid like a major league until you make the majors.
So say he went 15th in the draft, he'd get like a million dollar bonus or so but then be making $20,000 a year or whatever... 10/29/2005 3:58:26 PM |
Quinn All American 16417 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "he can make tons more in baseball, and I think it is guaranteed. There is no cap(i dont think) for "rookies" in baseball, like there is in the basketball the first few years. You sign a 50 million deal, you get it in baseball no mater if you are released, traded, etc. As a Pitcher in Baseball, he would(if he is good) have a longer career, and earn more money. You can Pitch and be "old" Unless he thinks he will be a lottery pick in basketball(doubtful) he should and probably will concentrate on his first love, baseball, after this season. " |
10/29/2005 4:24:53 PM |
rallydurham Suspended 11317 Posts user info edit post |
^ like i just said.
thats not true.
If he signs a major league deal then it is guaranteed.
In order to sign a major league deal he has to make the majors AND still be there when his rookie contract expires...
If he went ~15th in the draft he'd probably get ~$1million signing bonus and start making $30,000 a year (more or less depending on what level he was playing)...
If he made the majors his contract would jump to the 300-400K range prorated based on how many games he played
Now if you take into account how many 1st round picks never even get a cup of coffee in the majors, he's not quite the guaranteed goldmine that you seem to think.
Sure he appears very talented and he's a lefty which is a huge plus.... but injuries and other things pop up all the time.
A first round NBA pick gets a 3 year deal GUARANTEED and will make much more money than a 1st round baseball pick that never makes the pros...
Now if he becomes an AJ Burnett type pitcher he would make about 50% more than a Troy Murphy type NBA player...
However, it is WAY too early to predict what type of MLB or NBA player he would project too....
All I am saying is that I think he's likely to keep his options open and that basketball 1st round picks are guaranteed approximately double of what baseball picks are.... 10/29/2005 4:46:12 PM |
Quinn All American 16417 Posts user info edit post |
i really dont know anything about baseball and was just hoping to waste your time
10/29/2005 4:49:25 PM |
rallydurham Suspended 11317 Posts user info edit post |
haha well nicely done
i think he has more future in baseball too, just saying its a little early to hang up the shoes
besides you get more ass and exposure by playing basketball than baseball 10/29/2005 4:51:04 PM |
Quinn All American 16417 Posts user info edit post |
he wouldnt be my first round pick
but neither would villonoava(spelling) or hodge so YMMV 6'10" white guy 10/29/2005 4:52:05 PM |
rallydurham Suspended 11317 Posts user info edit post |
yeah at first when i read NBA scouts were looking at him i thought they were nuts...
but the more i thought about it he's a 6'10 guy with athleticism and a decent shooting touch.
He's put on weight this year and if he refines his jump shot a little and improves on his athleticism theres no reason he couldnt play in the NBA.
THere is always a demand for 6'10 guys who can hit 12-17 foot set shots... think Doleac, troy murphy, etc... 10/29/2005 4:59:10 PM |
ssjamind All American 30102 Posts user info edit post |
he could play both the major league and nba, the season conflict is manageable
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bwagsncsu Veteran 176 Posts user info edit post |
do any of you really think brackman has a legit chance of making the NBA? i think you may be getting way ahead of yourselves. he knows he can make it in baseball and i would imagine if he doesn't put up 12/6 this year in basketball he's going to be leaning towards mlb. 10/29/2005 5:45:49 PM |
Duchess All American 1817 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Sure he appears very talented and he's a lefty " |
talented, but not a lefty
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Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
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Brass Monkey All American 13560 Posts user info edit post |
oh
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Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
because i was asked to 10/29/2005 6:14:12 PM |
BanjoMan All American 9609 Posts user info edit post |
Didn't get much out of Brackman's conditioning at the red/white game today.
It was kind of hard to tell if the weight slowed him down, but he was still putting the ball on the floor at the top of the key and driving to the hoop against big guys. How many 6'10 guys are there in the leauge that can draw big men out to the permiter and either get the two points or go to the line?
On top of that he was knocking down some deep threes, so overall, it was a good show for him. But there is no way to really judge stamina based on a scrimage. Everything looks A OK from what I saw though.
The big suprise was Fells; wow that man was playing like a pass-first point guard today and had excellent D. And I am not talking about flashes, either. 10/29/2005 7:26:52 PM |