was good for one drive in the 4th quarter

that is all

10/29/2005 6:05:55 PM

marcus stone

throws behind the receiver every time

10/29/2005 6:06:31 PM

hey, first "start" even though he has played. i think it was the right choice to let him play the whole game. he came out with a win. oh well, we'll see how it goes now.

10/29/2005 6:13:53 PM

i think it was the right choice too

i just don't think he's the savior everyone else does

10/29/2005 6:16:27 PM

I didn't know that many people think he is the savior...

I thought they they were just sick of Jay Davis...and wanted someone else to start for a change.

10/29/2005 6:19:57 PM

I was wondering how long it would take this fag to speak up. Stone played like shit in the first half, but managed the game very well in the second half. Once again he was the victim of some dropped passes that hit our TE's and RB's in the hands. And...how many 100 yard rushers has Jay Davis been QB for? like 2? I really think the threat of the deep ball opened up some running room.

10/29/2005 6:22:25 PM

deep threat?

10/29/2005 6:23:30 PM

hay guys its almost basketball season

10/29/2005 6:25:24 PM

^^well Stone at least tried to throw the ball down the field. Thats why its a threat, not a sure thing.

10/29/2005 6:29:23 PM

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"I really think the threat of the deep ball shitty team with shitty defense opened up some running room."

this win should not be celebrated

like i said in the other thread, this game was a big PR move

its homecoming, stone's in, fans are happy, chuck's in a good position

10/29/2005 6:35:36 PM

i don't know what your talking about...deep threat?...

the main thing that went right for stone today was that Trestman finally woke up and called a good game. As the guys on Wolfpack radio said.."you finally coudln't guess what the next couple of plays were going to be, minus the sneaks."

I thought the play-calling today was pretty good and we finally realized that, we have a good group of running backs an to not pass the ball.

10/29/2005 6:37:45 PM

1st Half - 1/9 15 yards(fumble) and 2 INT's

Now, his second half performance was fine, I mean a couple of iffy passes, but the running game really came on strong and it helped the pass and the run since we could mix it up well.

But the INT that Williams tipped up was not Marcus' fault, so I hate counting that but stats are stats, but at the same time, that pick was somewhat his own fault. If you watched the play you couldn't help but see Tramain Hall(our "superstar" WR) doing jumping jacks in the endzone wanting the ball wide open.

Another problem in the first half was his 3rd down performances. He didn't even scan the WR's for a second before he ran the ball, one time it worked, but 2-3 other times it didn't.

I'm not sold on Marcus, but I'm glad Chuck stuck with him the whole game so he could get some experience and hopefully some more confidence. I don't think he's the answer for our future unless he can impress me against FSU and/or BC. So let's give him the rest of the season, then we'll see how he and Burke compete in the off-season.

[Edited on October 29, 2005 at 7:28 PM. Reason : .]

10/29/2005 7:28:30 PM

The first half was classic Stone--take the snap, count to three, run.

The second half was actually pretty good. I do think the play-calling improved--but I also think the passing game benefitted from having someone that actually attempts to throw downfield. You can say it was a shitty defense, but I honestly don't think the Jay Davis I've watched for the past few games would've won it.

Brown, on the other hand, was awesome. I don't care if it was against Southern Miss, he still showed some amazing vision. This was the performance I've wanted to see out of any of our backs this year--the guy adjusted masterfully to plays as they developed. Instead of just fighting for an extra yard or two, he found the extra gap and added 10 or 20.

10/29/2005 7:35:59 PM

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"this win should not be celebrated"

Charlie you can go be bitter about how stone is 1-0 as a starter and not celebrate. However, this win should be celebrated, as should every win...

10/29/2005 8:04:41 PM

more like deep throat

10/29/2005 8:13:21 PM

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"i don't know what your talking about...deep threat?..."

No, Stone did not complete any deep balls today...although he did have a few good passes over 15 yards in the second half. But this is college football. Teams watch film. Last week, Stone completed a few deep passes and should have had a few more except for the shitty receiver play. They had to respect the fact that he is capable of throwing the ball down field, and that he would. Hence, opened up running room, and Andre Brown rushing for 248.

10/29/2005 8:16:42 PM

Marcus Stone isn't God by any means, but he did pretty damn good for it being his first start. A lot of his passes should have been caught by the receivers but were dropped, some a little low but some were right in the numbers. Some of his other passes were just plain bad. What is funny is how quick people turned on him. Many of them even started a Jay Davis chant. And wtf, Stone is going to get himself killed doing acrobatics. He got creamed and turned for a flip. With all that aside, the fact is that Andre Brown carried this team on his back today. gg.

[Edited on October 29, 2005 at 8:45 PM. Reason : ]

10/29/2005 8:45:13 PM

He's going to get himself killed when he tries to go head up with a real linebacker next week. Then we'll defintly have a starter in Jay Davis as Marcus is flattened by two all american linebackers that FSU has.

10/29/2005 11:39:32 PM

I think Stone did better in the second half because he calmed down a bit. He's always running all over the field when he gets in initially, but since we finally saw him for an entire game, he finally got into a rhythm and had a decent second half.

I'm also not sure if he was responsible for it or if it was the coaches, but I'm thankful that we finally had a game where we didn't take a delay of game penalty or were forced to take a timeout because the play clock was running down.

Of course, Southern Miss is no Florida State, and I think it will be a very ugly game for us next week. I'm not sure if I'd WANT to watch that one

10/29/2005 11:56:10 PM

He wasn't as scramble happy as he used to be. Maybe a little more than he should be, but in my opinion he gave it time and then ran when it was either take a sack or throw it away. I didn't like how he took that high dive over the guy or how he how he came down with his hand under the ball to stay up. Way too easy to get hurt in those kinds of cases. It would be one thing if it was his non throwing hand, but it wasn't.

He def settled down in the second half though. Hopefully that was just first game jitters since it was his first whole game and he knew it would be up to him unless he got hurt.



And I dont think FSU has the possiblility to go either way. It might be really ugly, especially if we play like we did against clemson. But if the D plays like they did this week especially, and even last week then I think it might be close. But the O def can't come out and do what it did today. 4 turnovers, 5 if u count the running into the kicker, and your dead against FSU.

10/30/2005 12:24:35 AM

^isnt it funny how we say that stuff every week. if we dont do this, this, and that, we'll win.

10/30/2005 9:45:20 AM

yeah, if we hadn't played shitty all year, we'd be undefeated.

10/30/2005 9:49:27 AM

I really cant take all this stuff seriously until people reach a consensus that both INT's were Stone's fault.


When you throw the ball high and behind a tight end running a crossing route, that is your fault.


Maybe some people were at the game, and didnt see the play clearly... but that one was Stone's fault

10/30/2005 10:08:12 AM

1-0 as a starter, thats what matters

10/30/2005 10:10:33 AM

^^your absolutely right, both were stones fault. they were both badly thrown ball's.

but, the second one woulda just landed on the ground had TJ not tipped it like 20 feet in the air trying to catch something that was impossible to catch.

10/30/2005 10:17:34 AM

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"1-0 as a starter, thats what matters"

dude if Jay Davis had started yesterday we still woulda won

why?

because of Andre Brown, the Defense, and Southern Mississippi

and we might have had a decent 1st half

10/30/2005 11:01:05 AM

^you've got to be kidding me.

10/30/2005 11:04:54 AM

we should have won this game by at least 2 touchdowns

the first drive was horrible, third down was hilarious when stone sacrificed himself by diving in mid-air and getting hit from three different directions

he completed like maybe 5 passes the entire first half

2 ints

converted on 2 4th down conversions

we had 1st and 2 and it took us 4 downs to get two yards!

Andre Brown and USM's shitty defense and shitty punt return at the end are the only reason's we won this game

I'll give Stone credit for the TD along with the USM cornerback who tripped in the endzone allowing our receiver to be wide open. It was a good play by stone to see that and take advantage of it.

I'm glad we won but that's all, not excited, not hopeful for next week, nothing like what the entire stadium seemed to be feeling at the end of the game

I walked out of C-F yesterday a bit depressed because yesterday's game was the most pathetic win I've ever witnessed at a sporting event.

The people excited at the end of the game are blinded. We've won 3 games, one of which is to a quality opponent, but we only won because we got damn lucky. A win is a win, but it surely wasn't anything to be overly proud of yesterday.

next week is going to be even more laughable

10/30/2005 11:17:27 AM

I think you need a Prozac

10/30/2005 11:20:13 AM

you're telling me nobody else saw this a disappointing win?

10/30/2005 11:28:17 AM

I did.

Stone is terrible and we definitely won in spite of him. I couldn't believe people were cheering when he took that sacrifice hit you're talking about. Never heard a stadium cheer for it being 4th and 4. A guy next to me actually went "HELL YEAH YOU'LL NEVER SEE JAY DAVIS DO THAT!"

When he tried to throw or run, we got killed. When he handed off and just stood back, we did better. We'd be better off with three RBs in there if every third down is going to be a handoff or QB sneak.

10/30/2005 11:32:40 AM

^^

it would've been more dissapointing if we had no positives come out of the game and never came back after being down.

that's something we always did in amato's first season. i think we had 4 or 5 games that we were losing at halftime and we ended up winning, most notable the GT overtime game.

10/30/2005 11:38:23 AM

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"dude if Jay Davis had started yesterday we still woulda won why? because of Andre Brown, the Defense, and Southern Mississippi and we might have had a decent 1st half"

I agree 100%, Stone did nothing to "take" the starting spot for the rest of the year. He just had to hand it off, how hard is that? And when he threw, I held my breath. Both INTs were his fault.

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"you're telling me nobody else saw this a disappointing win?"

I did, even if Southern Miss is a good team, yesterday was pathetic. Our offense gave them 7 points, and a dumbass penalty (tackling the punter) gave them 7 points. You cannot turn it over like that and beat a good team.

10/30/2005 11:40:18 AM

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"you're telling me nobody else saw this a disappointing win?"

Yeah, I saw it. It was sloppy. Wanna know the good thing though? It was a come from behind win. Like I say, Davis has done that ONCE in his career. Stone did not play well, he played well enough in the second half for us to win...thats all that matters. It was his first start and you can chalk the first half up to jitters. Now if it happens again I will retract that statement.

See now you're gonna come back with "but it was all Andre Brown", but I know this, and I admit this. He had a great game and he is responsible for the win, along with our D. But Stone did not lose the game in the second half when it counted, thats all that matters.

10/30/2005 11:47:25 AM

how many sacks for 15+ yards did Stone take yesterday? if it was less than 2, then that alone makes him a better quarterback than Jay Davis.

10/30/2005 11:47:53 AM

Stone had 1.5 YPC yesterday, which includes sacks for 15+ yards.

10/30/2005 11:51:26 AM

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"how many sacks for 15+ yards did Stone take yesterday? if it was less than 2, then that alone makes him a better quarterback than Jay Davis."

Were you at the Wake game dude? Stone took two sacks both for 15 yards, and FYI Jay didn't get sacked the whole game.

10/30/2005 11:53:18 AM

The Southern Miss defense ranks 91st in the nation in pass defense. Stone looked terrible in every aspect. Talk about sacks, did you watch the game? Stone had all the time in the world yesterday, Jay has not seen blocking like that all season. And if you can tell me a game where Jay had a 200-yard rusher, then that would make my day. Stone had everything going his way yesterday and he performed miserably. He calmed down in the second half, but things are going to be much easier when a defense is trying to stop a guy who is running for over 200 yards.

Seriously, give Jay that kind of time, and I would bet my life that he would complete more than 40% of his passes. Come to think about it, Jay has never thrown for less than 40% in ANY game--except for the FSU game last year. Stone has thrown for less than 40% in the last two.

[Edited on October 30, 2005 at 12:02 PM. Reason : I prefer Jay Davis over Stone any day.]

10/30/2005 12:00:48 PM

GOD DAMNIT WE WON THE GAME IT WASNT PRETTY BUT WE WON STOP BITCHING ABOUT MARCUS STONE BECAUSE HE'S GONNA BE HERE NEXT YEAR AND DAVIS ISNT YOU PEOPLE'S STUPIDITY KILLS ME WHEN WILL YOU REALIZE ITS BETTER TO START THE YOUNGER QB WHEN THEY BOTH SUCK DICK????????????????

10/30/2005 12:10:16 PM

All I'm saying is that I want to start who is better for this year. Yes, Davis is gone next year and we aren't having the best year. It might do Stone some good to get experience which is why it's not a terrible thing that he is starting, but I don't care how bad we are, I want to see the guy who gives us the best shot to win playing.

No need to put caps on everything you disagree with or then you would be Stephen A. Smith, and nobody likes him.

10/30/2005 12:17:18 PM

^^ Lack of punctuation during that slobbering drool you call a paragraph cannot be supplimented with extra question marks at the end. Please, learn to use a comma or even a peroid now and then so the rest of us can follow what the fuck your talking about.

10/30/2005 12:28:58 PM

please, learn, to! understand. sarcasm: you? stupid' fuck;

10/30/2005 12:38:03 PM

^^ Normally I would agree, but this season is over, and I'd rather have us take an extra couple of losses with Stone and have him be a better quarterback for it and actually be a good enough quarterback to lead us to a winning season next year.

10/30/2005 12:43:04 PM

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"was good for one W drive in the 4th quarter that is all "

[Edited on October 30, 2005 at 12:45 PM. Reason : .]

10/30/2005 12:45:31 PM

the game was so bad that you could tell the announcer had lost his patience, was unenthusiastic and just wanted the game to be over so he could go home

10/31/2005 1:13:28 AM

Stone needs to transfer

10/31/2005 1:16:44 AM

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"I'll give Stone credit for the TD along with the USM cornerback who tripped in the endzone allowing our receiver to be wide open. It was a good play by stone to see that and take advantage of it. "

If you are going to mention the play, at least get it right. Stone let the ball fly just before the DB tripped. Had the DB not tripped, it was still a perfectly thrown ball to the spot it needed to go and would have been a TD regardless.

10/31/2005 6:32:18 AM

How did I know that a thread titled "Marcus Stone" would turn into a Davis fanboy thread?

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"I walked out of C-F yesterday a bit depressed because yesterday's game was the most pathetic win I've ever witnessed at a sporting event. The people excited at the end of the game are blinded. We've won 3 games, one of which is to a quality opponent, but we only won because we got damn lucky. A win is a win, but it surely wasn't anything to be overly proud of yesterday."

Funny. I reserve that spot for the GT game, which your boy Davis QBed for. Why do you people care? We are terrible either way. We are not going to a bowl game either way. Heck even if you are delousional enough to still think we have a chance at a bowl game Stone's win didn't do anything to hurt that. I hope all of you Davis fans follow him instead of the pack next year.

10/31/2005 7:27:53 AM

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"Funny. I reserve that spot for the GT game, which your boy Davis QBed for."

so beating GT, an actual ACC team, however lucky it was is a more pathetic win than barely scraping by a C-USA team?

10/31/2005 8:31:15 AM

Yeah, pretty much. And like I said. Please follow JD's career next year instead of the pack.

[Edited on October 31, 2005 at 8:39 AM. Reason : and]

10/31/2005 8:38:02 AM