I am taking 5 400-level business classes next semester and two PEs & I'm pretty worried about the workload of the business classes.

BUS462
BUS465
BUS466
BUS480
BUS483
PE109
PE269

Am I going to completely have NO time for anything else than school? has anyone else taken all four concentration courses and 480 at the same time??

11/3/2005 10:01:57 PM

Do you have any other choice? Other classes left? Why are you doing it this way?

11/3/2005 10:34:43 PM

thats all i have left to graduate

11/3/2005 10:45:44 PM

Go for it.

11/3/2005 10:46:54 PM

Who are your teachers?? More specifically...who is your 480 teacher??

If it's Palin...you don't have a chance.

11/3/2005 10:57:32 PM

Although I only graduated last May...Ive also forgotten what the numbers are. Is 462 Marketing Research?? is 465 Personal Selling?? I think I took both of those. Neither were too time consuming. Can't remember if I took 466 or not. I know I didn't take 483.

List the classes and teachers and I can give you a little more input.

11/3/2005 10:59:08 PM

BUS 465 Integrated Marketing Communications Management- KIMBROUGH
BUS483 Entrepreneurship-SHEATS/PALIN
BUS480 Business Policy and Strategy YOUNG (but trying to get into TYLER"S class)
BUS466 Personal Selling HENARD
BUS462 Marketing Research KANG

11/3/2005 11:03:28 PM

bttt because this is actually a serious thread

11/3/2005 11:13:23 PM

dont forget 370.

take it with one of the prof. in the group below this thread.

11/3/2005 11:14:27 PM

I had Kimbrough for 462 and she wasn't that hard. I doubt she teaches different, but her tests weren't that tough. It wasn't very time consuming. Henard's class isn't too bad either. Tests are all multiple choice...and then you have to sell the knives. But that's not too bad...just go home and sell to a bunch of family friends. I also thought the material for 462 was easy...but I don't know with your teacher.

I had Palin for 480...and if 483 with him is anything like 480 with him...then you're screwed. Don't get me wrong, you learn A LOT. But he teaches his classes like they are graduate classes (and he'll tell you that). First day of 480 we started off with 35 kids and ended up with 12 at the end of the week. He scared everyone away and rightfully so. The workload was ridiculous. I got a B+ in his class...but it took possible A's in other classes down to B's and B-'s because I just didn't have enough time to put into them.

And 480 with any teacher is going to be a little tough. It was just close to unbearable with Palin.

Hate to say...but you're screwed. You really won't have time for anything else. I really want to ask how this happened? Did you just switch into a Marketing Concentration?? I would recommend trying to find a Marketing Concentration class given during the summer. I got lucky and they offered a 495 the summer before my senior year. But this really is suicide. Sorry.

[Edited on November 3, 2005 at 11:19 PM. Reason : .]

11/3/2005 11:18:08 PM

basically i'm getting a degree in 3 years (I graduated high school in '03)because of personal family reasons, and i couldnt take any of those classes until now

what am i doing to myself??? this is so stressful...so do you think this is completely impossible?

[Edited on November 3, 2005 at 11:25 PM. Reason : ,]

11/3/2005 11:23:19 PM

^You would know more than me...but how could you have not taken any of those before now??

I took 480 my junior year and I had a friend who had all her concentrations taken before she started her senior year. I guess with you cramming it all into three years that makes it different...but you couldn't take any of those last semester??

I would HIGHLY reccommend trying to spread this out over another semester or at least a summer session or two. I know 480 has been offered during the summer before and you MIGHT be able to find a concentration class during the summer too.

I also worked while I was taking all of these classes. So that might affect my perception. But I also didn't spend a lot of time studying. I still think I would have a hard time keeping up with all these classes even if I wasn't working.

11/3/2005 11:28:49 PM

well most of them you can't take until you are a junior and I wasn't a junior according to my hours when i registered for this semester. (i wasnt a junior until i went to summer school all this summer)

and a lot of them had prereqs which I had to take first, which I am in now

[Edited on November 3, 2005 at 11:32 PM. Reason : a]

11/3/2005 11:31:59 PM

Well good luck. I mean...I'm sure it can be done. If you're graduating in three years then you can obviously handle a decent workload and are pretty smart. But that is just going to be a miserable final semester for you.

11/3/2005 11:35:07 PM

well thanks for your help...483 is only taught by palin next semester

i just would like to talk to someone who has actually done this, but i dont know if anyone else exists

11/3/2005 11:36:38 PM

i'm in bus465 now with kimbrough, and as long as you go to class (and pay attention) and participate in the project, you should be fine. she's a very fair teacher with grading, and the workload is right on average. i think you biggest workload will be bus480 with palin... i basically echo what jbrick said, as i've heard the EXACT same thing.

Either way, I wish you luck, it's going to be tough doing them all in one semester, but it's managable if you don't procrastinate... hope it all goes well.

cheers
katie

11/3/2005 11:38:25 PM

Can you find another concentration other than 483??

I somehow found some random concentration class that filled in for a Marketing and IT concentrations. I think it was like 440 or something (I could easily be wrong on that). But they had some guy come over from NC State's IT department to teach it (he wasn't even a real professor), and he missed like 7 or 8 classes because he was always on call and had to leave or not show up when one of the servers wen't down. He gave ridiculously easy tests that come from the homeworks.

I would try to find another concentration class other than the one with Palin. The man is just extremely demanding.

11/3/2005 11:45:57 PM

any of these: BUS 440 DATABASE MANAGEMNT , BUS 441 BUSINESS DATA COMM ,BUS 463 RETAIL MANAGEMENT , BUS 464 INTERNATIONAL MKTG, BUS 467 ELECTRONIC MRKT , BUS 469 IMC PROJECT , BUS 473 SUPPLY CHAIN MGT

i just thought that class sounded interesting, but if the professor is that terrible, i would much rather take something with less work

[Edited on November 3, 2005 at 11:50 PM. Reason : a]

11/3/2005 11:49:43 PM

He's not a terrible teacher. He just has a different method of teaching. I don't even know if I'd call it teaching...it's like learning through experience.

But given your situation...it's just too much. And I think the class I took was 440 or 441. I'm going to try and go back and check. Does it say "Staff" for the teacher for anyone of those?? If it does...then that's the class and teacher I had. Now that I think about it...Business Data Communications sounds REALLY familiar. I think that's it. I mean...the material was horrible. I don't know any of that IT stuff. But it was spoonfed to you. Extremely easy class.

11/3/2005 11:55:54 PM

I just checked...and it was BUS441 that I took that was really easy with the half-way professor.

11/4/2005 12:04:40 AM

just a lil more info...earp teaches 441 now and she is nice but if you are lookin to learn somn bout marketing this class isnt it...in fact i have no idea why it is a concentration class for marketing cause i dont think ive even heard the word marketing in that class all semester...she really doesnt give you any kind of clue for what to expect on the tests and they arent multiple choice. if i had to do it over i wouldnt take this class again, but mainly cause with only 12 required marketing hrs missin out on 3 with a non marketing class kinda sucks

[Edited on November 4, 2005 at 1:56 AM. Reason : .]

11/4/2005 1:56:21 AM

graduate in 3 years? At least when you get in the real world(faster) you will run back to college for the masters....

11/4/2005 4:14:57 AM

Let's talk.


And for the rest of you- you don't have to wait until the end to take your concentration courses. As long as you have the core course that is the pre-req/base course for the concentration, you can start mixing it up with other degree requirements. For example, once a student takes BUS 360, concentration courses can start the next semester. 320, finance conc. courses can start the next semester, 340, IT concentration courses, etc... Finish by blending concentration courses and other core courses in areas you are not concentrating.

I think the schedule is manageable, but it won't be easy. Doing an entire concentation in a semester is kind of brain overload. but at least it is marketing and not finance. When finance majors do this, all the formulas start blurring together

I think it is a great combination of topics for what you want to do, it will just be a fair amount of work. But, if you have been on the fast track already, you can probably handle it. Mostly, its like a baby learning to walk in a day rather than over a series of months by learning to sit up, crawl and pull up first.

11/4/2005 6:31:59 AM

thanks for all the advice everyone... wolfee-I'm in 360 right now (this was the earliest I could get in), so I couldn't take any of my concentrations yet

I keep checking tracs to try to get into 480 with anyone but Young

I still haven't decided if I'm willing to drop BUS483 with Palin to take another concentration i'm less interested in....this class sounded pretty interesting to me, but the way everyone is talking about Palin scares me

11/6/2005 8:18:44 PM

I think I would keep it. He's challenging, but you will learn ALOT and he is fair. He's just not wimpy, doesn't assign wimpy work, and knows what it takes to be an entrepreneur. Its not for the faint of heart. The class doesn't ask anything more of you than if you were starting your own business for real. It allows you to learn all the tasks and research needed before you open the door on the first day and it helps you understand the hard work that goes into it. The class gives you a map for thinking up a great idea, researching it, financing it, marketing and selling the products and more. I like it better than your other options because I know you will REALLY use anything that you learn in that class later on.

11/6/2005 10:14:30 PM

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"BUS480 Business Policy and Strategy YOUNG"

if you are taking young for 480 you might want to lighten the work load...he treats his class like its the only class you are taking

11/7/2005 2:18:41 PM

You may want to take Czarnecki for 480, but from what I've heard you should take anyone but Young.

11/7/2005 2:26:28 PM

all the sections are closed except for young's

11/7/2005 2:56:00 PM

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"He's challenging, but you will learn ALOT and he is fair. He's just not wimpy, doesn't assign wimpy work, and knows what it takes to be an entrepreneur. Its not for the faint of heart. The class doesn't ask anything more of you than if you were starting your own business for real. It allows you to learn all the tasks and research needed before you open the door on the first day and it helps you understand the hard work that goes into it. The class gives you a map for thinking up a great idea, researching it, financing it, marketing and selling the products and more. I like it better than your other options because I know you will REALLY use anything that you learn in that class later on."

She is 100% correct.

He is just so demanding. And with your current schedule...it's just going to be really tough.

11/7/2005 4:02:47 PM

just to let everyone know: i got into BUS480 with Padilla instead of Young, so that should help a little with the workload i hope

11/8/2005 6:31:42 PM

i've got padilla now - good choice

11/8/2005 10:20:32 PM

padilla is awesome

11/9/2005 6:02:19 PM