http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/11/04/mayor.thumbs.ap/index.html

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"RENO, Nevada (AP) -- The mayor of Las Vegas has suggested that people who deface freeways with graffiti should have their thumbs cut off on television. "In the old days in France, they had beheadings of people who commit heinous crimes," Mayor Oscar Goodman said Wednesday on the TV show "Nevada Newsmakers." Goodman said the city has a beautiful highway landscaping project and "these punks come along and deface it." "I'm saying maybe you put them on TV and cut off a thumb," the mayor said. "That may be the right thing to do." Goodman also suggested whippings should be brought back for children who get into trouble. Another panelist on the show, state university system regent Howard Rosenberg, said cutting off the thumbs of taggers won't solve the problem and Goodman should "use his head for something other than a hat rack.""

11/4/2005 12:45:53 PM

obviously cutting off thumbs wouldn't be a deterent.

Index fingers, then they can't spray cans anymore.

11/4/2005 12:47:15 PM

Sounds like they found a member of a NV Al Qaeda cell.

11/4/2005 12:47:39 PM

Isn't this similar to what they do in Saudi Arabia/Iran, and did in Iraq?

Except that they cut off entire arms.

11/4/2005 12:48:00 PM

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"use his head for something other than a hat rack"

my dad says that all the time

11/4/2005 12:49:03 PM

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"obviously cutting off thumbs wouldn't be a deterent. Index fingers, then they can't spray cans anymore."

You try to hold a spray paint can without your thumb.

11/4/2005 1:15:36 PM

one word

TAPE

11/4/2005 1:20:37 PM

fuck yeah!


I'm moving to NV

11/4/2005 1:21:21 PM

I fully support this system as long as it's fool proof.

11/4/2005 1:25:26 PM

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"Illegal? Samir, this is America! Come on, sit down! Come on! This isn't Riyadh! They're not gonna saw your hands off, all right?"

11/4/2005 2:01:01 PM

cruel/unusual

11/4/2005 2:24:36 PM

ya know i really wish we did have shit like this. get caught raping someone, you get your penis cut off. get caught stealing something, cut your damn arm off. yeah yeah people say "what about the people who are really innocent... la la la" whatever. severe punishment applied regularly and consistently might make someone think twice before deciding. our judicial system is crap. rapists getting off with a year or two in prison is ludicrous. make the punishment meaningful enough that they can't/won't ever think about doing it again.

[Edited on November 4, 2005 at 2:45 PM. Reason : *disagree away ]

11/4/2005 2:41:48 PM

forced sterilization

11/4/2005 2:42:32 PM

If everyone agreed with you, we wouldn't be going about freeing Iraq or Iran.

11/4/2005 2:43:15 PM

They ripped that shit off from The English Patient.

11/4/2005 2:45:05 PM

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"Goodman also suggested whippings should be brought back for children who get into trouble. "

i agree with that

11/4/2005 2:47:42 PM

so, are whippings illegal?

11/4/2005 2:49:18 PM

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""In the old days in France, they had beheadings of people who commit heinous crimes," Mayor Oscar Goodman said Wednesday on the TV show "Nevada Newsmakers.""

during the French Revolution?

11/4/2005 2:50:42 PM

I am thinking the Saudis would love this Mayor

11/4/2005 2:51:44 PM

I'm thinking I would love this mayor

11/4/2005 2:54:15 PM

beheadings sound so cool

11/4/2005 2:55:15 PM

Does living in the desert just do that to people?

11/4/2005 3:04:32 PM

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"ya know i really wish we did have shit like this. get caught raping someone, you get your penis cut off. get caught stealing something, cut your damn arm off. yeah yeah people say "what about the people who are really innocent... la la la" whatever. severe punishment applied regularly and consistently might make someone think twice before deciding. our judicial system is crap. rapists getting off with a year or two in prison is ludicrous. make the punishment meaningful enough that they can't/won't ever think about doing it again."

holy shit, move to saudi arabia

11/4/2005 3:17:47 PM

Is that an oil joke?

Isn't it really troublesome to prove rape there, too?

11/4/2005 3:20:06 PM

aha i knew someone would comment. nah i am just sick of our shitty judicial system (or lack there of) coddling criminals. i don't care what the punishment really is. it just needs to be meaningful. we simply let people off too easily for crimes.

11/4/2005 3:23:30 PM

It's called Democracy.

If you hate the judicial system move to Saudi Arabia.

11/4/2005 3:25:22 PM

i love those comments

"if you hate X, then leave it". you see you can dislike a certain part or certain stance. it doesn't mean you hate the whole. as a whole, this is my preferred country of residence.

11/4/2005 3:28:14 PM

Democracy is like that...and if you hate the juducial system you probably hate the government...and you probably hate rapists' freedoms...it's a vicious circle.

11/4/2005 3:29:20 PM

cruel and unusual punishment

11/4/2005 3:36:55 PM

^^nah i don't hate the government as a whole at all. i disagree with a lot of it - i.e. welfare, its greed and gluttony, some of its priorities, etc. i typically dislike individual politicians more than anything really - i.e. k. babineaux-blanco - i hate her. i'd much prefer bobby jindal. beside the point.

but anyway i like my relative freedoms (as a non criminal i might add ) - speech, bear arms, religion, etc. i agree and support capitalism, i like my road systems, i like the educational opportunities, i like being able to travel relatively freely, etc. to me our govt is a lesser of the evils. i doubt i'd completely like any govt.

[Edited on November 4, 2005 at 3:37 PM. Reason : er]

11/4/2005 3:37:22 PM

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"if you hate X, then leave it". you see you can dislike a certain part or certain stance. it doesn't mean you hate the whole. as a whole, this is my preferred country of residence. "

just to be clear, I didn't actually MEAN what i said. I'm in agreement with you that you hsouldn't leave a country just because you like the way things work; you should try to change them. I just think that what you want to change our country into with ideas like that is similar to midieval europe

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"nah i am just sick of our shitty judicial system (or lack there of) coddling criminals"

is this a god damn joke? If you get arrested for possession of marijuana you can lose federal funding for college

CODDLING CRIMINALS? WE HAVE A HIGHER PERCENTAGE OF INCARCERATED CITIZENS than any other industrial nation

[Edited on November 4, 2005 at 3:52 PM. Reason : .]

11/4/2005 3:50:55 PM

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"CODDLING CRIMINALS? WE HAVE A HIGHER PERCENTAGE OF INCARCERATED CITIZENS than any other industrial nation"

EXACTLY. Stiffen the penalties and you won't have that many people in jail.

ITS CALLED A DETERANT

11/4/2005 4:02:24 PM

^^i am referring to violent criminals - rapists, murderers, etc. personally, i'd vote to legalize mj.

a few years in a prison where you are provided 3 square meals, tv time, etc isn't meaningful enough for someone who brutally murdered someone in my opinion. and yes, i do agree with the death penality. i like tx's idea... where most states are trying to ban it, they put in an express lane. gg texas


[Edited on November 4, 2005 at 4:06 PM. Reason : tke knows what i mean]

11/4/2005 4:03:30 PM

This guy sounds like he comes from old-school Vegas.

11/4/2005 4:59:00 PM

i don't agree with cutting off bodyparts, but yes, bring back whippings.

they will solve america's rampant crime problem in a jiffy.

hooligans, vandals, muggers, small time drug dealers, etc, whip them real good.

and i guarantee you they will be reformed before you can say the word.

11/4/2005 11:30:27 PM

11/5/2005 12:04:55 AM

^^ You are such a fucking idiot.

God help us.

11/5/2005 1:20:52 AM

it is easy calling someone an idiot.

but too hard explaining why, right?

and wtf do you mean by god help us?

i am not in any position to affect US policy on any level, YOU IDIOT.

anyway, back to the topic.

so agreeing with whipping as a form of punishment makes me an idiot?

if you say so.

11/5/2005 1:26:26 AM

IF YOU'RE CAUCHT SPEEDIN YOU SHOULD HAVE YOUR FOOT CHOPPED OFF

11/5/2005 1:29:40 AM

God help us if real-live human beings think that whipping people is the way to handle shit.

Oh, and here's why:

You're a racist, hateful, homophobic jackass who ironically gets off to comically masculine women with muscles the size of hams.

11/5/2005 1:31:45 AM

If you're caught stealing your hands should be chopped off.

11/5/2005 1:32:10 AM

If you're caught e-gaming then your fingers should be chopped off.

11/5/2005 1:36:32 AM

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"God help us if real-live human beings think that whipping people is the way to handle shit. Oh, and here's why: You're a racist, hateful, homophobic jackass who ironically gets off to comically masculine women with muscles the size of hams."

Cut the bullshit, inflicting pain on law breakers does not make you a racist or a homosexual. If anything, those who broke the law inflicted pain and suffering onto their victims.

11/5/2005 1:37:04 AM

I'm not talking about this thread.

I'm talking about in general.

11/5/2005 1:38:54 AM

^^^^^ jesus dude, wake up and smell the coffee.

countries with public whipping as a punishment are some of the safest countries in the world.

and what's so wrong with whipping?

i am not advocating whipping that would leave you bleeding.

but enough to cause pain (and of course severe public shame, which is the bigger deterrent). even if you do it in private, it would still deter recidivism.

you being a bleeding heart liberal, of course want criminals big and small to be safely put away, given regular meals, books, television, gyms, etc.

but hey guess what, that hasn't cured america's crime problem, has it? recidivism is a major problem of america's jail system.

and what is so humane about locking up a human for years and even decades, and then releasing them into a literally physically changed world, where they have no clue about how anything works, and then expecting them to be upstanding citizens without any skills!?

[Edited on November 5, 2005 at 1:41 AM. Reason : and if i hate juvenile beer-drinking college kids like you, then append any epithets you wish to me]

11/5/2005 1:39:48 AM

1. You are assuming that I support everything about the American criminal justice system.
2. You are calling countries where the government can chop off a piece of your body "safe".
3. The countries that do this have serious problems with due process, transparency, and fairness in general.
4. I do not drink beer.
5. I am not in college.

11/5/2005 1:48:40 AM

1. for someone criticizing others and calling them idiots, you sure aren't coming up with any of your ideas, are you? what kind of punishments do YOU want to see? tell us something other than who is an idiot.

2. they chop off a piece of your body if you have committed a specific crime... don't want your hand chopped off? don't rob. don't want your head cut off? don't kill, plunder, or rape. what's so unsafe about that? btw, singapore doesn't chop off pieces of your body, but it does have whipping as a punishment. regardless, as i said earlier, i don't agree with cutting off bodyparts.

3. so are you saying that whipping cannot be applied unless the system has problems with due process, transparency, and fairness? FUCK those countries... what's so problematic about using whipping in a country like the USA? stop beating around the bush and get to the topic on hand.

4. LIES.

5. oh ok you graduated you lanky moron.

11/5/2005 1:57:13 AM

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"You try to hold a spray paint can without your thumb."

use both hands

About forced sterilization - they did that for a while ... after the 3rd offense (I forget what state) they would lop the dude's nuts off. All of them said it helped, and that they now had a "normal" libido and took away the urges to rape. The supreme court ruled it cruel and unusual.

11/5/2005 7:31:39 AM

Most of the time when someone is doing a lot of painting they will end up using their thumb on the nozzle instead of their index finger. It is a lot stronger which is important when you are going through several cans of paint.

This video has a lot of graffiti writing: http://www.merchline.com/beautifuldecay/productdisplay.311.p.htm

11/7/2005 8:09:59 AM

^ and how do you know all this?


OFF WITH HIS THUMBS!

11/7/2005 8:37:06 AM