http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/5071150

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" Vick says he wouldn't mind playing with T.O. FLOWERY BRANCH, Ga. - Michael Vick wouldn't mind having Terrell Owens line up at receiver for the Atlanta Falcons — as long as T.O. understands one thing. "This is my team," Vick said Wednesday. Besides, No. 7 already has provided a resounding response to those who criticize his passing numbers and deride him as nothing more than a freak of an athlete masquerading as a quarterback. The T.O. drama ... # Players union: Cut T.O. right now # CZAR: Eagles deserve some blame # VIDEO: Owens apologizes to Eagles # Timeline of T.O.'s tantrums # Text of T.O.'s apology # McNabb's dad likens Owens' shots at QB to 'black-on-black' crime # VIDEO: Where will T.O. go now? # Someone will take a chance # Owens in locker-room brawl # Fantasy spin: T.O. suspended Last week, Vick completed a season-best 22-of-31 passes for 228 yards and a touchdown, with no interceptions in a 17-10 victory at Miami. Asked if he was out to prove a point, Vick shrugged his shoulders and said, "Kind of, sort of. I just wanted to win the game. I did whatever it took to win the game. That is what it took." Vick still ranks 26th in the league in passing efficiency, working with a group of nondescript receivers led by Brian Finneran (27 receptions, two TDs). So, it was no surprise when the quarterback's weekly question-and-answer session quickly turned toward Owens, who was suspended by Philadelphia after an interview critical of the organization and teammate Donovan McNabb. "I think I could play with anybody," Vick said. "It's all if they could play with me. He would have to understand my style of play and what I do. And if he can do that, he can be here. Other than that, this is my team." Even though Owens issued a public apology Tuesday, the Eagles plan to deactivate him for the rest of the season after his four-game suspension is up. Owens, of course, is eager to get back on the field. Though he has a home in Atlanta, he recently put the 18,000-square-foot spread on the market for $4.5 million, The Atlanta Journal-Constitution reported. He would certainly be a major upgrade over the Falcons' current group of receivers. Then again, T.O. has always been a major disruption in the locker room, the kind of player who could upset the tight-knit bond that coach Jim Mora has instilled in his team. "We understand that it takes 11 guys to win a football game," Vick said. "We do not have any selfish guys on the football team. That is fine with me." The Falcons' offense is built around the league's most effective running game, and that wouldn't change no matter who's at receiver. Much of the running is done by Vick, who gained nearly 1,000 yards last season and ranks second on the team this year with 340 yards. "I run the ball a little bit more than other quarterbacks so, that might take away from some of his catches," Vick said, referring to Owens. "You have to be a team player when you come here.""

11/10/2005 3:55:51 PM

11/10/2005 3:59:20 PM

I think he would be a great asset to the Falcons. Sure there is prolly some hostilaty dealing with him in Atlanta after the Falcons vs Eagles game on MNF, but I am sure he would be well received and could turn Vick into the passer everyone wants him to be.

11/10/2005 4:01:08 PM

^^"I would have double-bagged it..."

[Edited on November 10, 2005 at 4:01 PM. Reason : quick response]

11/10/2005 4:01:28 PM

that article really doesn't accomplish anything

11/10/2005 4:05:29 PM

^^^ see, thats what I think WONT happen

The Falcons are tailored for Vick, so I can see T.O. bitchin abotu his catches, but it would increase Vicks already threatening ability

T.O., Vick, with Dunn in the backfield, every one of em can hurt you hard

[Edited on November 10, 2005 at 4:06 PM. Reason : .]

11/10/2005 4:06:40 PM

well

first we wondered if TO was mad because he his QB was white

maybe

so he goes to the eagles with McNabb

"Ok, they'll get along just fine, they're brothers" - (media)

nope

what the fuck is to say that he won't get whiny as fuck with vick's big ass ego

11/10/2005 4:08:59 PM

the giants will still win

11/10/2005 4:10:48 PM

from my fantasy site

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"THE NEWS Falcons quarterback Michael Vick says he would be willing to play with disgruntled Eagles wide receiver Terrell Owens, but only under certain conditions. "I could play with anybody," Vick told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution. "It's all if they could play with me. He would have to understand my style of play and what I do and if he can do that, he can be here. Other than that, this is my team." The Falcons are one of the teams that Owens expressed interest in playing for during his contract holdout this summer. Our View What Vick is trying to say is that Owens couldn't be a locker room cancer and would not be allowed to complain when countless passes sail over his head or land five feet in front of him. Our feeling is that Owens wouldn't last five games in Atlanta without getting frustrated and mentioning the name Ron Mexico to the media."

[Edited on November 10, 2005 at 4:13 PM. Reason : +]

11/10/2005 4:12:03 PM

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"first we wondered if TO was mad because he his QB was white gay"

i dont remember the race angle played in the media, other than by fat ass Rush

11/10/2005 4:14:27 PM

aha

true

but my point is

he's not going to just up and stop his ways, no matter where the fuck he ends up

especially in somewhere like baltimore (of course they wouldn't fuck with him now)

can you imagine how quick he would throw boller under the bus?

11/10/2005 4:17:03 PM

no but i could imagine ray lewis shutting him the fuck up quick

aha

11/10/2005 4:19:54 PM

that's what the fuck he needs though

he acts like he's never had his beak pushed back

11/10/2005 4:21:05 PM

TO would complain about vick not getting passes to him before the 4th quarter of the first game

11/10/2005 4:28:18 PM

Terrell Owens is a complete piece of crap.....he does not deserve to play for anyone and does not deserve to play in the NFL

That being said, the big rumor that I heard on sports radio talk shows recently is that the Cardinals would maybe be willing to make a trade that included Anquan Boldin (and others) for T.O. because Boldin is oft injured and Green thinks he could maybe keep T.O. in control

11/10/2005 4:35:24 PM

^dumb. Just because a person is a loud mouth asshole doesnt mean he doesnt deserve to play. I could say that kbncsu is an idiot and doesnt deserve to post but .....

11/10/2005 5:14:45 PM

11/10/2005 5:43:40 PM

I wasn't referring to the loud mouth part...that would mean that Chad Johnson wouldn't be allowed to play, Randy Moss, Mike Vick, and a bunch of others

I was referring to his greedy attitude and his arrogance....it is the reason that a team he is on will never win a super bowl

and i was just more saying it anyway b/c i hate terrell owens

11/10/2005 6:02:31 PM

T.O. is garbage and the only reason certain individuals would defend him is because hes a 'brotha'


he wouldnt be an asset to any team unless he fuckin found Jesus as is Lord and Savior or somethin

everyone is too damn busy worrying about the next 2-3 years, can you imagine T.O. staying with any team, with his current attitude, longer than that, with the reputation that now precedes him?

[Edited on November 10, 2005 at 6:26 PM. Reason : g]

11/10/2005 6:25:34 PM

^white person playing the race card

[Edited on November 10, 2005 at 6:31 PM. Reason : we usually just call that racist]

11/10/2005 6:30:37 PM

god dammit i am not white and am not playing any race card

i mean, its just like freakin OJ simpson, kobe bryant, and R kelly 'most' black people rallied in support of them when we all know they did it

i hear the shit everyday "man TO doin the right thing yo, eagles need to capitulate'

nah man, eagles did a good job, maybe this will humble his ass a bit

you cant teach 'team' in a minicamp drill, nothin i hate worse than selfish teammates

god damn i can go on all night about this topic

[Edited on November 10, 2005 at 6:36 PM. Reason : f]

11/10/2005 6:35:34 PM

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"that would mean that Chad Johnson wouldn't be allowed to play, Randy Moss, Mike Vick, and a bunch of others "

I hope you aren't calling Vick a loud mouth? He doesnt talk half the shit as those guys.

11/10/2005 7:04:42 PM

or as this dipshit we all know MacGyver

11/10/2005 7:38:07 PM

yeah he is right about vick not talking shit in comparison to the magnitude in which chad and to do

11/10/2005 7:39:00 PM

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"I think he would be a great asset to the Falcons"

Yeah, that would be awesome - send him to a team with a QB that can't pass...Marcus was exposed last week as a fraud, Mike will be as well. He needs to put on some lbs and move to HB and get over being a QB b/c as long as he is, the falcons will never get rings of their own.

11/10/2005 8:16:58 PM

I think TO would be thrilled to tears being in Atlanta as long as they were winning. There are no recievers there to take any receptions from him.

I think TO likes winning adn knows how to put up a fit when he thinks the team he's on is crap. He bitches and moans and gets everyone to hate him so he can get a trade. He was peaches and cream at first when he moved to the eagles

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"# McNabb's dad likens Owens' shots at QB to 'black-on-black' crime"

oh and ... WTF ?

11/10/2005 10:41:33 PM

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"Yeah, that would be awesome - send him to a team with a QB that can't pass...Marcus was exposed last week as a fraud, Mike will be as well. He needs to put on some lbs and move to HB and get over being a QB b/c as long as he is, the falcons will never get rings of their own. "

If you think Vick "can't pass" you are a fucking idiot. He has the best arm in the league. And he is most successful with down the field passes which he hasnt had many of this year. Sure, he isnt the most accurate, but look who he is throwing too. Yes, his TE is badass, and when he throws to him, it is usually a great outcome. His WRs are shit to good at best. He has no badass WR to throw to like McNabb, Culpepper(had), and like either of the Mannings have. So dont shit on him for his passing stats. If TO came to the Falcons, and Vicks passing stats stayed the same or got worse, I would admit he isnt a top 5. But, if you did bring in TO to the Falcons, I would be even more shocked that Vick didnt sit his ass down at #2 right behind Manning #1.

11/10/2005 11:18:10 PM

Manning #2 had shit for WRs last year and sucked. He gets some this year and is god. Cullpeper had Moss for almost all his career, and you say Cul was a god, then when Moss leaves, he turns to pure shit. Manning #1 has a badass WR in Harrison. Seems all the good QBs have great to badass WRs. Yet, Vick is a great/badass QB without this addition. Imagine what he would be like once he got a TO

11/10/2005 11:22:44 PM

If a back up QB can come in and throw for 300 yds and 3 TDs with those "shit" recievers then gods gift to football should be able to throw for 200 yds more than once in a season.

11/10/2005 11:30:32 PM

How many wins has he lead the Falcons too? I never said shit about stats. And thats all that matters to us in Atlanta.

[Edited on November 10, 2005 at 11:32 PM. Reason : .]

11/10/2005 11:31:36 PM

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"How many wins has he lead the Falcons too? I never said shit about wins. And thats all that matters to us in Atlanta. "

Does this make sense?

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"I never said shit about stats."

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"His WRs are shit to good at best. He has no badass WR to throw to like McNabb, Culpepper(had), and like either of the Mannings have. So dont shit on him for his passing stats. If TO came to the Falcons, and Vicks passing stats stayed the same or got worse, I would admit he isnt a top 5."

[Edited on November 10, 2005 at 11:35 PM. Reason : :]

11/10/2005 11:32:43 PM

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"T.O. is garbage and the only reason certain individuals would defend him is because hes a 'brotha'"

by certain individuals I have the strong feeling he's referring to me

you can say "the only reason certain individuals attack him (replace him with Chad Johsnon, Randy Moss, and any other outspoken african-american athlete) is because he's a "brotha"" and it would sound equally dumb



T.O. is a hell of a player, the man is a beast

But his mouth and his attitude precede him, and I hate that because he dosen't get his just due and a fair shake, but he does it to himself

But at the end of the day, he's one of the most unstoppable forces in the NFL, I don't think anyone can argue that

I want him to just shut up and play ball the same way i wish Vick would win a Superbowl (since thats what its gonna take, and prolly still get the shit end) and shut haters the fuck up

[Edited on November 10, 2005 at 11:38 PM. Reason : .]

11/10/2005 11:36:34 PM

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"If a back up QB can come in and throw for 300 yds and 3 TDs with those "shit" recievers then gods gift to football should be able to throw for 200 yds more than once in a season."

11/10/2005 11:37:13 PM

^^ I agree

[Edited on November 10, 2005 at 11:37 PM. Reason : :]

11/10/2005 11:37:16 PM

Ok, stats do not matter in Atlanta, wins do. And stats might matter a little more in Atlanta once we get a great WR. You knock Vick for not having great stats with shitty WRs. But his backup has one great game, with great stats with the same WRs, and you say he is good. But even yet, Vick has a pretty much equal game with a win, and it doesnt mean anything to you. Please make up your fucking mind the "If a back up QB can come in and throw for 300 yds and 3 TDs with those "shit" recievers then gods gift to football should be able to throw for 200 yds more than once in a season." Like I say, thats an almost equal game, and the backup didnt win. Yet Vick has less stats and wins the games. Which would you rather have from a QB? Stats or wins? Yep, I thought so.

11/10/2005 11:37:39 PM

equally dumb eh?


shut the fuck up, you know absolutely shit

11/10/2005 11:38:56 PM

See, thats not a good comeback. The fact that I make a post you cant come back against isnt your fault. Just deal with it and move on. QB....stats or a win?? STFU

11/10/2005 11:40:16 PM

that the end of your argument?

thought you could go all night

and i think Vick is the only thing me and MacGyver can agree on

Stats are for losers

At the end of the day, you arent going to be remembered for your QB rating, your yards per game, but how many rings you have on your finger, however much that may be stupid, thats how it works

And I hope that Vick gets a ring, I'll feel validated in my beliefs at Vick being the biggest threat in the NFL

[Edited on November 10, 2005 at 11:41 PM. Reason : .]

[Edited on November 10, 2005 at 11:42 PM. Reason : .]

11/10/2005 11:40:21 PM

Yes, yes it is.

11/10/2005 11:41:00 PM

the point is is that may statement wasnt dumb at all, its backed up with conversations i hear daily

stupid, stupid conversations about bending over backwards for a selfish individual

i hope no organization does that for anyone, id say the same if mike alstott started acting like a fucking idiot

11/10/2005 11:41:57 PM

Vick wins games, he leads his team to wins with your so called "Shitty passing stats" So once he gets a TO he can actually THROW to, he will be god.

11/10/2005 11:44:12 PM

if he loves him so much

let him go play with favre

i'm sure favre would die to have him on his team at the sunset of his career

11/10/2005 11:44:17 PM

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"But his backup has one great game, with great stats with the same WRs, and you say he is good."

When did I say schaub was good? My point was if someone who is not that great of a QB can come in and put up those numbers then someone as great as you think Vick is should be able to do better than half that good.

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"Like I say, thats an almost equal game, and the backup didnt win. Yet Vick has less stats and wins the games."

This just proves again that teams win games not individuals. If they lost that game with the numbers schaub put up do you really think they would have won it with one of Vick's lesser performances?

Almost equal not quite, this was Vicks best game of the season and it still was not that great, good but not great. Also would any other QB in the league have gotten up after one game like this and said "don't question my passing ability because I had one good game"?

Also im done sorry if this turned into a vick thread....

[Edited on November 10, 2005 at 11:46 PM. Reason : :]

11/10/2005 11:45:09 PM

^^^ His stats will go up definately

But I firmly believe Vick is and always will rely on his foot speed

But having T.O. will definately get him more room downfield to run/a good WR blocker to give him some space

To switch the thread up a little

Marcus will end up better than Michael at the end of their careers

[Edited on November 10, 2005 at 11:46 PM. Reason : .]

11/10/2005 11:46:30 PM

who are you arguing with, man? (mcguyver)

i havent mentioned vicks stats at all, i dont really care about him

the dude above made a valid point in that if someone can put a little touch on the ball, the atlanta recievers would do pretty well

i think its kinda messed up that he passes simply to prove people wrong.

[Edited on November 10, 2005 at 11:47 PM. Reason : f]

11/10/2005 11:46:45 PM

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"Stats are for losers At the end of the day, you arent going to be remembered for your QB rating, your yards per game, but how many rings you have on your finger, however much that may be stupid, thats how it works And I hope that Vick gets a ring, I'll feel validated in my beliefs at Vick being the biggest threat in the NFL "

I agree that we agree. Its not like Vick is a Dilfer and is gonna win a Super Bowl because his defense totally keeps other teams from scoring. The Falcons win games because Vick makes the plays to help them win them. End of story.

11/10/2005 11:48:49 PM

To be fair to the team

I think Dunn is doing most of the damage in the offense

820 yards on an ATL rushing attack getting 5.3 yards per carry

Vick, like has been said umpteen times, is just as dangerous as a decoy as he is a part of the play



[Edited on November 10, 2005 at 11:52 PM. Reason : and yes im aware that last statement may have contradicted myself but whatever ]

11/10/2005 11:51:08 PM

^^Hey, Hedgeapple

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""If a back up QB can come in and throw for 300 yds and 3 TDs with those "shit" recievers then gods gift to football should be able to throw for 200 yds more than once in a season.""

That sure sounds like stats to me. But you forgot the most important one. The WIN

[Edited on November 10, 2005 at 11:51 PM. Reason : .]

11/10/2005 11:51:34 PM

falcons D is pretty good actually, that certainly helps them win games, otherwise vick would need to come up with 5 or 6 TDs

they have a very good team

^simply saying that the recievers are capable

[Edited on November 10, 2005 at 11:52 PM. Reason : f]

11/10/2005 11:51:36 PM

And saying that based on "stats" right?

11/10/2005 11:56:22 PM