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No conference can even come close to the quality of games, excitement, and overall energy that occurs during SEC football games.

11/12/2005 5:09:38 PM

NyM410
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Of course not.

and it's looking more and more like the ACC was overrated. After today (GT losing) only 2 teams will be ranked: VT and Miami... although BC MAY sneak in if they win tonight.

EDIT: If not for the 3 added B.E. teams the ACC would be looking at losing their BCS bid squarely in the eye...

[Edited on November 12, 2005 at 5:14 PM. Reason : f]

11/12/2005 5:12:23 PM

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while i dont entirely agree (i love Big Ten football) its definitely a valid claim

theres always good football goin on in the Sausage Egg and Cheese conference

11/12/2005 5:13:32 PM

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It doesn't even have to do with how good the teams are. There are so many rivalries, and the crowds in the stadium are insane no matter what the teams records are. I think the ACC could get close in a few years with FSU, The U, and VA Tech. But the smaller stadiums overall in the ACC are still going to hurt them as far as live games go.

[Edited on November 12, 2005 at 5:15 PM. Reason : .]

11/12/2005 5:14:24 PM

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This why with the BCS, its almost impossible for a SEC team to win even have a chance to play for the national championship. Best conference in college football, and in return, the teams just beat up each other to where none of them have a chance to go to the NC, and even if you do, like Auburn last year, you still somehow get snubbed. Undefeated in the SEC shows a top caliber team who deserves to play for the NC.

11/12/2005 7:35:15 PM

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your point is moot

alabama lost

11/12/2005 8:04:21 PM

MacGyver
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No, I win. This was my point....

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"Best conference in college football, and in return, the teams just beat up each other to where none of them have a chance to go to the NC"


Quit trying to troll me. All you people do is fail. You just backed up my argument with your own post. It doesnt get more pathetic than that.

Well came to be my point. You still cant argue with this thread if you watched the game.

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"No conference can even come close to the quality of games, excitement, and overall energy that occurs during SEC football games.

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Doesnt really matter who won or lost this game, I come out ahead no matter what the outcome was.

[Edited on November 12, 2005 at 8:56 PM. Reason : .]

11/12/2005 8:52:02 PM

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USC plays 5 ranked teams and is still undfeated while bama only plays 4..

USC>>Alabama and anyone in the sec

11/13/2005 1:55:59 AM

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"SEC's become a shadow of league it used to be
Terence Moore - Staff
Wednesday, November 2, 2005

Sorry to burst those bubbles the size of Steve Spurrier's ego, but when it comes to The All-Mighty SEC in college football, there is the myth, and then there is the reality. Here's the myth: That there still is such a thing as The All-Mighty SEC in college football. As for the reality, this is the most overrated and over-hyped conference, division or league in sports.

You do have the All-Mighty ACC in college football right now. Courtesy of solid teams from Virginia Tech, Miami, Florida State and Boston College at the top and the competitive likes of Georgia Tech, Clemson, Maryland and Virginia in the middle, the ACC is what the SEC used to be, and that is a conference whose strengths aren't exaggerated.

"Well, you know what? I think what you're saying is obvious," said Bill Curry, an expert on this subject. Not only is he an ESPN analyst for the sport, but he was a head coach in the ACC (Georgia Tech) and in the SEC (Kentucky and Alabama). "The SEC is going to win a bunch, but it's not going to dominate Michigan and Texas and Notre Dame, not like it used to. It's a conference [the SEC] that has lost its luster, and I don't see how anybody could even begin to argue that point."

I mean, Tennessee? Long before the Volunteers revealed themselves as frauds earlier this season, it was clear that they hadn't a quarterback. Nobody ever will confuse Erik Ainge or Rick Clausen with anybody good. Still, courtesy of the myth, the Volunteers were ranked No. 3 by preseason polls. Now they aren't even the best team around the Smokies. In case you haven't noticed, historically putrid Vanderbilt has more victories (four to three) than the Volunteers. Plus, Tennessee is a Saturday trip to Notre Dame away from sliding two games below .500.

Elsewhere, after all of that whining around the SEC over the prospects of having another Auburn this season (an undefeated team without a shot at a national championship), consider two things: First, Georgia showed that it is D.J. Shockley and a bunch of talented but complementary players. Without the injured Shockley, the Bulldogs collapsed against an inferior Florida team with significant flaws, especially on offense. Second, Alabama hasn't lost, but Alabama joins Florida and Tennessee among the many SEC teams that can't score. Alabama averages fewer points per game than such powers as Navy, Tulsa and Louisiana Tech.

Speaking of powers that aren't, you have South Carolina. Even so, the Gamecocks just won at Tennessee for the first time ever. The great Spurrier aside, they shouldn't win at Tennessee. (And how good is LSU, since the Tigers choked in Death Valley to a Tennessee bunch that choked to South Carolina?) South Carolina is among the slew of athletically challenged SEC teams in most seasons.

Which brings me to more of the myth: That the reason why the traditional SEC powers have so many patsies on their schedule (LSU played North Texas last week and has Appalachian State this week for homecoming) is because the conference schedule is so brutal. There are 12 SEC teams, and the only thing brutal about half of them (South Carolina, Arkansas, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Kentucky and Vanderbilt) is the way that they've played in recent years.

So when did The All-Mighty SEC in college football vanish?

"I think it began to happen when all of that cheating became public, and after it was proven and was documented and people started to go on probation and losing scholarships," Curry said. "Not only did that hurt the teams that were doing the cheating and got put on probation, but it hurt everybody. At that point, a lot of good football players were lost by the SEC to other conferences. That's because parents started to say, 'Well, gee, I don't want you to go somewhere that has that kind of a reputation.' "

Earlier this decade, Curry predicted such an exodus from the conference during an SEC media day. Former commissioner Roy Kramer was so furious that he demanded that Curry justify his remarks to Kramer's security chief. "I told [Kramer] that I'd be glad to, so I started documenting things right and left, and the guy never called me back again," Curry said.

Guess the guy knew Curry would become omniscient.

tlmoore@ajc.com
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from the atlanta journal-constitution

11/13/2005 1:07:38 PM

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