MrLuvaLuva85 All American 4265 Posts user info edit post |
Justin Burke just lead his HS team to the state championship game in Kentucky...he's looking pretty nasty....
http://www.lexingtoncatholic.com/sports/football/2005%20Individual%20Offense.htm
62 tds and only 4 ints...that's pretty strong 11/28/2005 10:53:18 AM |
ssclark Black and Proud 14179 Posts user info edit post |
I pray we dont try and stick to stone being the starter 11/28/2005 11:06:03 AM |
1234chs All American 2574 Posts user info edit post |
Now that we are Bowl eligable it will make a huge difference towards next year. The extra practice is almost like having an extra spring practice. The young guys will get tons of reps and it will be a huge help next season.
I'm not saying that Marcus will be great next year but we have to consider him the starter of the future until Burke or someone else proves they can do better.
Back on topic, Its great to see him doing so well even though his ranks are falling...haha...He would be a 5* by now if he had commited to UNC 11/28/2005 11:11:47 AM |
Jeepin4x4 #Pack9 35774 Posts user info edit post |
5 ints 11/28/2005 11:12:27 AM |
jmpack15 All American 4470 Posts user info edit post |
62 TD's and 4-5 INT's is bigtime.
And they say his strength is his smarts.
Hopefully he can come in here and practice well. 11/28/2005 11:49:25 AM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
i think the guys that ever got an INT off of him should keep the ball with a tag on it 11/28/2005 11:50:25 AM |
erudite All American 3194 Posts user info edit post |
Is he graduating early? 11/28/2005 11:51:12 AM |
MrLuvaLuva85 All American 4265 Posts user info edit post |
he's also got 461 yds rushing with 5 touchdowns and 1 catch for a touchdown 11/28/2005 11:55:08 AM |
ssjamind All American 30102 Posts user info edit post |
11/28/2005 11:55:11 AM |
PvtJoker All American 15000 Posts user info edit post |
SRU! 11/28/2005 11:56:20 AM |
stoncuttr All American 2149 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Is he graduating early?" |
No...which should eliminate any talk of Burke being the starter next season.11/28/2005 11:58:32 AM |
ssjamind All American 30102 Posts user info edit post |
^^whatup 11/28/2005 12:00:48 PM |
tracer All American 13876 Posts user info edit post |
i'm fine with stone starting next season. burke will probably be better, talent wise, but lets give him some time to get into a routine and get the hang of the offense. stone has proven he can be adequate anyway. 11/28/2005 12:29:18 PM |
State409c Suspended 19558 Posts user info edit post |
Yea, if he were graduating early there would be a good shot that he'd be the man.
As it is, I hope Trestman will develope our O towards our strengths and not try and force guys to play a system that they can't.
And lets face it, if we don't develop an OL then our O will be shitty again next year only we will lose Manny and Mario on D and a DB corp. that looks pretty lame.
I'll go out on a limb here and say that if the same trend continues with Amato not fixing things in the offseason and not getting rid of some of the shitty coaches we have (Barry, etc) then we'll have a worse year next year. 11/28/2005 12:30:10 PM |
tracer All American 13876 Posts user info edit post |
if the o-line is as bad next year as it was this year, there's no excuse. the whole team should be dissolved. 11/28/2005 12:32:03 PM |
Toms House All American 4464 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "As it is, I hope Trestman will develope our O towards our strengths and not try and force guys to play a system that they can't. " |
That was my main problem with Mazzone. It was obvious the system wasnt working and he didnt change it at all. I heard he is getting fired from Ole Miss this week. 11/28/2005 1:43:51 PM |
phishbfm All American 4715 Posts user info edit post |
burke wanted to come in here early, but he needs one fine arts credit and its not offered until the spring. So he's got to stay there just for one friggin class... 11/28/2005 1:49:18 PM |
wolfAApack All American 9980 Posts user info edit post |
^thats fucked up if its true...he should be able to work something out if thats the case.
and did anyone else see that article on espn about him? There was just a blurb about how he's about to set the record for TD passes in a season in KY. Right now he's 3rd all time, but only needs a few more for the record (sorry if it was already mentioned I didnt read carefully). 11/28/2005 1:54:01 PM |
Probasesteal All American 10307 Posts user info edit post |
I'm sure he could finish that "fine art" credit here or at a local community college in Raleigh.
[Edited on November 28, 2005 at 2:24 PM. Reason : actually, i guess he has to graduate b4 he can come here] 11/28/2005 2:24:33 PM |
phishbfm All American 4715 Posts user info edit post |
yeah, graduation needed first 11/28/2005 2:29:27 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "only we will lose Manny and Mario on D and a DB corp. that looks pretty lame." |
Mario might surprise us and come back and try to be the #1 pick in next year's draft.
The only DBs we lose are Hudson and JJ Jones, who is already not playing with the team. I think the secondary is turning out well. Heath and Scott are both solid at safety. AJ Davis plays well other than being a dumbass at times. Dajuan Morgan is a pretty good backup for a freshman. Same goes for Jimmie Sutton and Phillip Holloman. I think secondary might actually be our strong part of the D next year.11/28/2005 2:54:27 PM |
ssjamind All American 30102 Posts user info edit post |
^ and i'm glad for Stephen Tulloch as an LB veteran.
for some reason i thought he was leaving this year. 11/28/2005 2:57:54 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah Hoyte is the only linebacker we lose. I think Pat Lowery has really stepped up this year and will play big next year as a senior. Rumph isn't bad and is improving. 11/28/2005 2:59:59 PM |
State409c Suspended 19558 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Dajuan Morgan is a pretty good backup for a freshman. Same goes for Jimmie Sutton and Phillip Holloman." |
NO!
As much shit as continues to get talked about AJ, he is never 5+ yards behind receievers like these guys are.
They aren't horrible in that they completely blow coverage, but they are bad enough that from about the FSU game onward they ALWAYS get picked on and are always behind their men compared to AJ and Marcus.
Here is hoping that they can improve but Williams (I think he is our DB coach?, whoever it is) has gotten a pretty severe rep with guys at statefans (along with Barry).11/28/2005 7:29:47 PM |
jmpack15 All American 4470 Posts user info edit post |
BC and UNC ate AJ Davis for lunch. Hate to say it, but those two teams walked by him.
DaJuan, Bobby, Jimmie, Miguel, J.C. and Levin are going to be very good for us back there next year. 11/28/2005 7:40:50 PM |
wolfAApack All American 9980 Posts user info edit post |
^^I dont know what you're trying to say there.
Dajuan Morgan is VERY good for a freshman, and he is NOT a cornerback. He plays the same position basically that Andre Maddox played...roverback. His job is to cover for the mistakes made by the corners, and he does a damn good job of it.
Sutton and Holloman are n00bs, thats it. Holloman is better than sutton I'd say, but the way AJ Davis has played this year, they are all on about the same level. AJ is actually a really good corner when he isnt being stupid and trying to jam receivers 10 yards down field that are twice his size. Problem is that he does this over 50 percent of the time.
If they can get their shit together in the offseason, next year could be a very good year.
[Edited on November 28, 2005 at 7:44 PM. Reason : ] 11/28/2005 7:44:26 PM |
Fuel All American 7016 Posts user info edit post |
they are gonna look real bad without a pass rush next year.
We have to hope that somebody steps up bigtime at DE.
And no, Mario ain't coming back. 11/28/2005 7:48:03 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Don't forget Bobby Washington. He's got potential. 11/28/2005 7:49:09 PM |
wolfAApack All American 9980 Posts user info edit post |
^dont get your hopes up with Bobby. Safety isnt our problem...its the corners. 11/28/2005 7:51:46 PM |
PackBacker All American 14415 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "We have to hope that somebody steps up bigtime at DE." |
We have to hope that Raymond Brooks comes back to school. He was good as hell as a frosh... we'll need him bigtime next year to at least have a rush from one side11/28/2005 7:56:01 PM |
Fuel All American 7016 Posts user info edit post |
We're loaded at DT if McCargo comes back. Maybe we could play some sets with him at DE since he's pretty quick for a fat guy.
I hope Willie Young is as good as advertised. 11/28/2005 8:02:17 PM |
wolfAApack All American 9980 Posts user info edit post |
Our line will be fine
Pass rush wont be as good, but rushing D should be really good. Maybe since the ends wont be as skilled of pass rushers they can focus a little more on the run. That way we can play some of the rovers in coverage to help the pass coverage.
I actually think it will work out for us even losing 4 huge names from the D. 11/28/2005 8:12:54 PM |
sherm06 Veteran 109 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah Willie Young is supposed to be pretty good...lean and fast as shit...kinda like Manny. 11/28/2005 8:13:44 PM |
State409c Suspended 19558 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Maybe since the ends wont be as skilled of pass rushers they can focus a little more on the run. That way we can play some of the rovers in coverage to help the pass coverage. " |
You have it all wrong. Using rovers under this mentality is like trying to use a bandaid to stop the bleeding of a PCP induced self mutilation when it would have made more sense to keep someone off the PCP to begin with.
Point is, our bump and cover scheme is predicated on pressuring the QB. Without that there will be receivers running all over the field getting open at will. Our rush 3 setup helps in that with that many DBs it starts to look more zone like, but then the run protection and spy protection (versus a good scrambling QB) suffers immensely.
We need to install some zone schemes if we are going to have a hope of having a respectable D next year.
I'm going to say it again before all the hype starts next year, don't get your hopes up, last year and this year should have taught us all something by now.11/28/2005 8:33:20 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
I don't think there will be much hype at all. Hopefully that translates into less pressure on the players and they go out and play football like they can. I still don't see why some of you think we will not be that good on Defense. We will be fine, 7 starters will be back, 8 if you can count all 3 tackles we play.
Bottom line: We need a QB to play worth a damn and a DECENT line to block for him to do so. 11/28/2005 8:38:57 PM |
wolfAApack All American 9980 Posts user info edit post |
^^that made little to no sense at all and we are all dumber for reading that.
By rovers in coverage I mean playing them in a zone to help the pass coverage....like they do now...just more often if we can stop the run early. We can still play man to man with our speed, and we will still have a decent pass rush. Its not going to be as bad as you make it sound.
[Edited on November 28, 2005 at 8:41 PM. Reason : ] 11/28/2005 8:40:37 PM |
State409c Suspended 19558 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "By rovers in coverage I mean playing them in a zone to help the pass coverage...." |
I'm not talking about rovers only. I am talking about the whole secondary playing a zone.11/28/2005 8:47:59 PM |
Maverick All American 11175 Posts user info edit post |
We gotta get this guy for obvious reasons. He's got good genes
[Edited on November 28, 2005 at 8:54 PM. Reason : .] 11/28/2005 8:54:28 PM |
wolfAApack All American 9980 Posts user info edit post |
^^well thats what I'm saying so your bashing of my statement was retarded.
I dont like us playing zone, I think it leaves too much room for error and its easier to give up little chunks of yardage more often, and opens you up more to the big play...which we are already very susceptable to.
I think zone only helps with rushing D, which we shouldnt need help with. Its six of one, half dozen the other when it comes to zone vs. man in pass defense. 11/28/2005 9:06:24 PM |
tl All American 8430 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " and did anyone else see that article on espn about him? There was just a blurb about how he's about to set the record for TD passes in a season in KY. Right now he's 3rd all time, but only needs a few more for the record (sorry if it was already mentioned I didnt read carefully)." |
I believe the old record was 58 and he broke it in this last game.
He's also close to the career TD record, but with only 1 game left, he isn't gonna get it.
133 -- Tim Couch, Leslie County (1992-95) 120 -- Justin Burke, Lexington Catholic (2003-05) 120 -- Chris Todd, Elizabethtown (2001-04) 119 -- Brian Brohm, Trinity (2001-03) 116 -- Brandon Smith, Boyle County (2002-04)
Game by game stats:
Opponent Rcd Cls Rnk Result Pass Pct. Yds TD INT Other notes Lex Christian 11-2 1A 5 W 52-14 12-20 60.0 157 4 0 rush 9-82, TD TD passes of 21, 5, 5, 16, run of 17 score 52-7 at halftime, 31-0 after 1st Q Burke sat out last 15 minutes St Xavier 14-0 4A 1 L 34-37 21-41 51.2 289 4 1 #1 Overall Team TD passes of 18, 10, 76, 7 Scott Co 6-6 4A 9 W 49-42 OT 14-26 53.8 339 6 0 #21 Overall Team TD passes of 29, 20, 35, 40, 58, 46 yds Franklin Co 10-2 3A 8 W 62-28 14-26 53.8 257 6 0 TD passes of 39, 25, 8, 9, 28, 37 yds Harrison Co 6-5 3A 18 W 39-37 30-45 66.7 415 5 1 TD pass of 63 yds E Jessamine 3-7 3A 30 W 54-7 15-20 75.0 263 6 0 W Jessamine 4-7 3A 28 W 42-12 17-26 65.4 238 4 0 rush 5-26 Bourbon Co 0-10 3A 56 W 89-3 13-15 86.7 269 6 0 TD pass of 12 Western Hills 5-5 3A 40 W 47-7 17-24 70.8 297 4 0 (??) rush 4-28, TD Anderson Co 1-9 3A 49 W 50-7 8-12 66.7 130 2 0 rush 1-16, TD Playoffs Grant Co 4-7 3A 39 W 51-6 10-13 76.9 109 4 0 rush 5-19, TD, Cov. Cath. 7-5 3A 3 W 42-39 14-28 50.0 370 5 2 rush 9-97, TD TD passes of 1, 79, 49, 33, 56, run of 31 Highlands 9-3 3A 2 W 17-0 11-20 55.0 117 1 0 rush 15-45 TD TD pass of 8 yds Rockcastle 11-3 3A 13 W 48-20 14-22 63.6 318 5 1 rush 5-12 TD passes of 7, 33, 15, 64, 60 yds Bowling Green 13-1 3A 1 Saturday 12/2 11:30am
Season 210-338 62.1 3568 62 5 rush 80-461, 6TD, 1conversion Passing: 255 ypg 17.0 ypc 10.6 ypa Rushing: 32.9 ypg 12.4:1 TD:Int 3.38 Comp/TD 5.45 Att/TD 5.8 ypc 42.0 Comp/INT 67.6 Att/INT
[Edited on November 28, 2005 at 9:10 PM. Reason : ]11/28/2005 9:07:01 PM |
State409c Suspended 19558 Posts user info edit post |
Ahh...what did Todd end up doing this year? Anything? 11/28/2005 9:09:05 PM |
DaveOT All American 11945 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I think zone only helps with rushing D, which we shouldnt need help with. Its six of one, half dozen the other when it comes to zone vs. man in pass defense." |
I'd tend to take man, with the athletes we've been pulling to play the secondary. Just to pick an example, look at how well Hudson smothered Calvin Johnson.11/28/2005 9:10:45 PM |
tl All American 8430 Posts user info edit post |
me Todd or the Chris Todd who's in my post?
me Todd --- I mowed the lawn a few times and (almost) wrote a thesis..... 11/28/2005 9:11:40 PM |
wolfAApack All American 9980 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, smart teams will pick apart a zone like nobody's business, and it doesnt even take good athletes to do it. At least with man coverage you put it in the hands of the player to beat you and there is a lot more control over the play. The only time you get into trouble is when you are way overmatched...which doesnt happen to us often except against AJ, but thats just because he's a dumbass, not becaues of his skill...or when they break big runs because nobody is waiting for them in the secondary. Also, our safeties have always been known for their great run support..like Andre Maddox. Heath and Scott have done a good job this year covering for mistakes this year in the run.
I just feel like it would be stupid to change our defensive scheme completely just because our pass rush wont be as good. Plus, with Tank, McCargo, and Demario in the middle, we'll still be a decent D-line, and they're good enough to put pressure on the QB by themselves. Plus we will still blitz a lot. No need to change, period.
[Edited on November 28, 2005 at 9:39 PM. Reason : ] 11/28/2005 9:39:01 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "^dont get your hopes up with Bobby. Safety isnt our problem...its the corners." |
People can be moved around. I'm not saying it's going to happen, but having an extra guy back there doesn't hurt and it at least gives you the option of moving guys around.11/28/2005 10:42:21 PM |
billyboy All American 3174 Posts user info edit post |
They beat somebody 89-3? Good lord. 11/29/2005 9:50:00 AM |
State409c Suspended 19558 Posts user info edit post |
ah ha
I meant Chris Todd (a former target of ours)
Sorry about that Todd. 11/29/2005 10:13:45 AM |
Restricted All American 15537 Posts user info edit post |
I hope people aren't really thinking that Justin Burke is gonna steal the starting job from Stone and save this team. 11/29/2005 10:20:17 AM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
^Sadly some are. Hey we just want someone who is not a dumbass and can throw decent. Is that a lot to ask for? 11/29/2005 10:28:19 AM |
hondaguy All American 6409 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I'm not talking about rovers only. I am talking about the whole secondary playing a zone." |
well then you are crazy. That will never happen. There is no point in even talking about it. Amato is of the FSU mentality, pressure the QB and then force him to make the throw into man coverage. Our D isn't gonna change all that much. The faces will, but the scheme won't.11/29/2005 10:30:42 AM |