meh.

12/3/2005 11:10:12 PM

they better represent us well in the BCS
and that means play like they did today, not like they did vs us, clemson, or florida

12/3/2005 11:13:34 PM

4 losses --> bcs bid?

12/3/2005 11:14:19 PM

ACC Champs=BCS bid

12/3/2005 11:15:30 PM

acc champion --> bcs bid

am i right

12/3/2005 11:15:31 PM

I guess some things never change.

12/3/2005 11:18:27 PM

well its official

12/4/2005 12:21:35 AM

12/4/2005 12:26:14 AM

the acc is going to get raped in bowls

12/4/2005 12:26:55 AM

congratulations to FSU, im glad they turned that ship around

but the Hokies

12/4/2005 12:27:52 AM

just make sure you beat penn state

12/4/2005 12:33:09 AM

FUCK YOUR HOKIES CHRIS "I COULDN'T CUT IT ON NCSU'S FOOTBALL TEAM SO I'LL BE A DICK TO SPORTS TALK AND PULL FOR THE HOKIES" CRAWFORD

FAG

12/4/2005 12:34:57 AM

I'm actually gloating that FSU won!!! I lived in Northern Virginia too long and I enjoy seeing the Hokies fans pout!!!

12/4/2005 12:50:10 AM

I'm going to rub this into a coworker for the rest of the year. He's a huge Hokie fan for no apparent reason, and talking to him about sports is like having ESPN radio regurgitated in your ear. I've been telling him that FSU would route VT all year long.

12/4/2005 12:54:09 AM

OMG CHANCE "NO ONE GIVES A FUCK ABOUT SHIT THAT I TYPE ON THE WOLF WEB BECAUSE IM FUCKING 40 YEARS OLD" CHIAPETTI

12/4/2005 1:01:40 AM

so for the 2nd year in a row we kicked the shit out of the acc champs

12/4/2005 1:02:32 AM

i wouldnt say "kicked the shit out of" but we beat em

we gotta get consistent u cant hang hang your hat on one win each season and expect to build a program

12/4/2005 1:04:06 AM

I won this thread.

12/4/2005 1:07:13 AM

keep thinking that

12/4/2005 1:57:25 AM

Quote :

"This game is a dud. Fifth-ranked Virginia Tech (10-1) meets Florida State (7-4), which has totaled 36 points while losing three games in a row. Boston College, Clemson and N.C. State all would be more competitive opponents for the Hokies today. But Florida State clinched the championship berth from the Atlantic Division title early, before its late-season slide."

http://www.charlotte.com/mld/charlotte/sports/colleges/13317625.htm


hahahahahahha open mouth, insert foot

12/4/2005 2:13:25 AM

once again

4 losses --> bcs bid

while Oregon gets the ol shaftaroo

12/4/2005 2:16:30 AM

NC State deserves a BCS bid

Amato for President

National Champs here we come

[Edited on December 4, 2005 at 2:36 AM. Reason : .]

12/4/2005 2:36:22 AM

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nope

12/4/2005 2:50:47 AM

was it Brent Musberger who said it would be the "AARP" bowl?

12/4/2005 3:24:29 AM

Quote :

"once again 4 losses --> bcs bid while Oregon gets the ol shaftaroo"

yes, and for those who continually whine about having a tournament, suddenly you'll have 4 loss teams winning the national title occasionally.

12/4/2005 8:22:44 AM

^Damn never thought of it that way. Good point.

12/4/2005 8:24:03 AM

^^ oh, but they would have "earned" it despite being less worthy than the teams that played well the whole season...

and then people would scream about how the playoff selection is wrong...

because people will bitch no matter what...

but anyway, how does this affect the ACC's BCS bid? i know there's some rule about the average ranking of your top team affecting your bid... will miami save us from this problem or are we screwed by fsu?

12/4/2005 9:47:56 AM

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"yes, and for those who continually whine about having a tournament, suddenly you'll have 4 loss teams winning the national title occasionally."

Will FSU be ranked up to 8th after this game?

Because I don't see how anyone this day in age in college football that could end the season as high as 8th while having 4 losses.

12/4/2005 10:15:52 AM

an 8 team playoff would involve the conference champions of the 8 major conferences.

12/4/2005 10:25:14 AM

Quote :

"an 8 team playoff would involve the conference champions of the 8 major conferences. "

8 major conferences?

big 10, pac 10, acc, big 12, sec

those deserve it, everyone else not so much


theres not gonna be a tournament, probably not ever

12/4/2005 10:53:14 AM

an 8 team playoff would still involve fsu at 4 losses... so that's kind of a silly arguement. oregan lost to usc so the only people they can blame is themselves as unfortunate as it is. the regular season is your playoffs. win out and poof you're in the NC, lose and you have no one to blame if you get left out

12/4/2005 12:08:12 PM

^ While I agree in a very loose, general sense, that logic applies how to a scenario with 3 undefeated teams?

The BCS is not the best system you could have, but it's also not all that bad either. The only time it truly failed was last year when an undefeated Auburn got the shaft.

12/4/2005 12:10:30 PM

The playoff doesnt have to follow the BCS rules, so FSU might not get to play. THey could make some rule that if the conference champion is ranked outside the top 20 then they can choose another team if they wish. Kinda like they can choose ND if they are ranked inside the top 15 right? (whatever the number is).

12/4/2005 12:21:13 PM

^that would be idiotic

those type of clauses tend to screw things up, and there would be a lot of complaints about the "subjective" choice element

better to keep it objective, if we did not want FSU to represent us this year, and if the Canes and Hokies are mad about it, they (along with BC) should have beat them on the field!

[Edited on December 4, 2005 at 12:32 PM. Reason : .]

12/4/2005 12:32:27 PM

^It will never happen without the major conferences getting automatic bids.

12/4/2005 12:33:43 PM

Last nite being the first ACC championship game was a very important night.

Too bad it turned into such a farse.

12/4/2005 12:34:48 PM

why?

because the underdog won?

12/4/2005 12:38:38 PM

VT just exposed themselves on national TV when it counted the most

they were incredibly overrated and had no business being anywhere near a BCS bowl

not like FSU deserves to be there either

the ACC as a whole this year was not as good as everyone expected it to be

12/4/2005 12:42:54 PM

Quote :

"the ACC as a whole this year was not as good as everyone expected it to be"

I'd say you can't even begin to qualify that statement objectively. I'll even argue you won't try.

12/4/2005 1:08:58 PM

^it's pretty clear that teams from other conferences would whip our asses. ACC teams have anemic offenses. Don't give me that BS about good defenses, either -- most of out teams have scrub, inexperienced QBs.

12/4/2005 1:20:56 PM

Quote :

"^that would be idiotic those type of clauses tend to screw things up, and there would be a lot of complaints about the "subjective" choice element "

eh, i'm not so sure. Of course, I would assume that they could come up with wording that would make it fair, like "if a team doesnt qualify (not in top 20), they must be replaced by a top 10 team".

However, it would be idiotic of me to assume that the BCS could come up with something that made that much sense. I see what you're saying with the "subjective choice", but i just want them to come up with writing that makes it clear. That will never happen though.

12/4/2005 1:33:09 PM

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"The BCS is not the best system you could have, but it's also not all that bad either. The only time it truly failed was last year when an undefeated Auburn got the shaft."

you could say it failed the last two years by giving Auburn the shaft last year and USC the shaft the year before. fortunately, the media rewrote history and made USC the national champions two years ago, even though LSU won the BCS title game and was declared national champions at the time.

if USC falls to Texas, maybe the media will rewrite history again and make Auburn the national champions of last year.

12/4/2005 1:54:31 PM

look the team everyone picked to win the acc this year and many picked to win the national championship wasn't even able to win their conference championship. VT lost to a self imploding FSU team. FSU is going to be blown out by Penn State and I don't even want to think about what would happen if they played USC or Texas. The same could be said for any ACC team won the acc championship game.

12/4/2005 1:58:36 PM

don't write off FSU just yet against Penn St. VT is known for choking in big games, but that doesn't mean they didn't play a good team. FSU played in the championship game like they had been playing earlier this season, and I think they'll dominate Penn St. on special teams plays if they play like they did yesterday.

12/4/2005 2:04:14 PM

^^^The media didn't "re-write history" two years ago. 1 loss LSU beat Oklahoma in the BCS championship game. 1 loss USC beat Michigan in the. By default, the coaches poll champ was LSU because they won the BCS championship game. But the media poll voted USC #1. Thus a split champion. Nobody went back and re-wrote anything.

[Edited on December 4, 2005 at 2:05 PM. Reason : ]

12/4/2005 2:05:38 PM

Penn State will crush the Clowns\

Just like my Gators did

[Edited on December 4, 2005 at 2:11 PM. Reason : ]

12/4/2005 2:08:23 PM

the media rewrote history by calling USC the national champions. The whole purpose of the BCS was to have a true national champion, and the AP poll means nothing. The only reason the media rewrote history is because two years ago the AP had no influence over the BCS. Ever since they got their 1/3 vote in it, they've been singing its praises.

12/4/2005 3:02:53 PM

Quote :

""the ACC as a whole this year was not as good as everyone expected it to be""

maybe you should check this out:

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2247629

the ACC has more teams in the top25 than any other conference with 6!
big ten and sec have 5 apiece

12/4/2005 3:50:39 PM

Quote :

"the media rewrote history by calling USC the national champions. The whole purpose of the BCS was to have a true national champion, and the AP poll means nothing. The only reason the media rewrote history is because two years ago the AP had no influence over the BCS. Ever since they got their 1/3 vote in it, they've been singing its praises. "

but it's ... the medias... poll. OF FUCKING COURSE the media is going to say USC was the champion because they were the champion of their poll... Both teams were the champion just like boxers who hold a belt from different governing bodies in the same weight classes are the champion. LSU just got unlucky in the sense that the coaches are less vocal(obviously) than the media

12/4/2005 6:12:00 PM

I'm still in firm belief that the only reason the AP voted USC to number one after that whole fiasco was to create controversy and leverage against the BCS so they could get involved. It worked too.

12/4/2005 6:49:10 PM