In Raleigh

http://www.wral.com/news/5532271/detail.html

I couldn't care less what people choose to call this time of year, nor what they wish to worship. I really don't care if someone puts up a sign. As long as they aren't tying me up and pushing me into a church and forcing me to believe something, I don't care. What's the deal with people getting so easily offended these days?


PS - Anyone who wishes to let Amanda know that she doesn't have to let everything offend her and that the world isn't out to get here can reach her here:

Robert & Amanda Alpert
5313 Covey Ct
Raleigh, NC 27609-4157
(919) 954-8026

12/14/2005 2:19:34 PM

juden!

12/14/2005 2:29:45 PM

that woman obviously doesnt have enough on her plate

12/14/2005 2:30:20 PM

The deal with people being so easily offended these days is that when people complain about stupid shit, we yield to them. So people complain more...

12/14/2005 2:30:57 PM

http://www.brentroad.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=372545
i shouldnt have used the owners name as the title

12/14/2005 2:31:55 PM

they shouldn't have said, "jesus is the reason for the season" that actually is kind of offensive. But knowing this woman, she probably would've complained even if they'd just said, "merry christmas" so screw her.

12/14/2005 2:33:50 PM

its only offensive if you are looking to be offended

12/14/2005 2:37:08 PM

I am wondering when the backlash from all of this pussification of the US is going to coagulate.

12/14/2005 2:39:12 PM

that's not the right address... FYI.

http://imaps.co.wake.nc.us/imaps/main.htm?msize=525

12/14/2005 2:41:06 PM

I'm not offended by it but I do find it humorous.

12/14/2005 2:45:53 PM

I find it funny someone had the gall to do it.

I was thinking about going there for lunch today...i work on falls.

the line was backed up AROUND the building and out of the parkinglot into the side road that goes by it.

Jesus = $texas

12/14/2005 2:47:39 PM

^^^That's what whitepages.com gave me.

anyway, I bet her husband hates her. what a whiny bitch.

12/14/2005 2:52:41 PM

WHEN WILL THIS MAD WOMAN'S WAR ON CHRISTMAS END?

12/14/2005 3:03:17 PM

Yeah, because everyone in this thread was ranting about her attack on Christmas and no one was talking about why people are so easily offended nowadays...

12/14/2005 4:01:41 PM

this is completely retarded, and it's JUST as stupid as people like o'reilly saying there's a "war on christmas" and saying they're offended when they DON'T see merry christmas.

fuck this

12/14/2005 4:01:48 PM

Crux her

12/14/2005 4:02:57 PM

all of this has become so overblown.

its a sign of how great our society actually is when we have to fight battles about christmas sign on mcdonalds


back in the day we had real causes like civil rights, suffrage, etc...

all these activists with nothing worth agitating for.

12/14/2005 4:05:17 PM

i really hate people

12/14/2005 4:08:23 PM

some people just need to learn how to pick their battles. You can't go around throwing hissy fits at every sign that offends you and expect to have a respected argument. There is no war on CHristmas, and there is no war on Kwanza, or Chanuka, or any other holiday in December. The fucking McDonalds has a right to put whatever holiday message up that they want, religious or not. Nobody is making you eat there, or take the sign seriously. Fuck, I hate people.

12/14/2005 4:12:47 PM

so whats up with republicans making this such a big issue this year?

that one dude on fox news even wrote a damn book on it

why does the media always try to conjour(sp?) up stories like that, all they do is incite more public rage over a stupid topic cause people see newscasters devoting a ton of time to it

god its fucking gay

12/14/2005 4:15:07 PM

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"so whats up with republicans making this such a big issue this year? that one dude on fox news even wrote a damn book on it why does the media always try to conjour(sp?) up stories like that, all they do is incite more public rage over a stupid topic cause people see newscasters devoting a ton of time to it god its fucking gay"

Because sensationalized stories sell, and media outlets are a business.

12/14/2005 4:23:12 PM

Those who can't find news, make up news.

12/14/2005 5:20:13 PM

okay okay


back to the real question:

have people always been big babies about issues like this or have they always existed and are now getting exposure in the media?

12/14/2005 5:27:37 PM

Uh... Jesus is the reason for the Christmas season.

12/14/2005 5:39:52 PM

^^ Yes and Yes.

I'd imagine after seeing this "War on Christmas" crap all over the news, she felt a certain sense of empowerment that compelled her to act, whereas in past years she did not. What does this lady do when she drives down the street and sees a nativity scene? Does she stop and ask them to take it down?

And you know her husband is pissed about this stupid shit.

12/14/2005 5:57:40 PM

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"have people always been big babies about issues like this or have they always existed and are now getting exposure in the media?"

In the past, people lived in small communities where they could easily be mocked and shunned for acting retarded. As communities grew, a sense of anonymity came with it. People who were always picked last in dodgeball, not because of poor athleticism, but because they just suck at life and nobody liked them, often feel left out in our large society. The only way for them to get the attention that they crave so much is to act like a fucking retard. No longer having to fear long-term mockery enables them to do things that they normally wouldn't consider in a smaller community where they would receive their just deserts.

The lesson folks, is that these people should be treated horribly.

12/14/2005 5:59:25 PM

^ I like the way you think.

12/14/2005 6:23:26 PM

True dat

12/14/2005 6:23:53 PM

Heh, what ever happened to freedom of speech in this country?

12/14/2005 9:32:48 PM

Uh... Jesus is the reason for the Christmas season.

I mean what other reason is there? Some minor backwater holiday on the Jewish calendar? Surely not some psudo-religous African harvest festive that's only been around since the 60s? It's a christian holiday. Deal with it. Can I start bitching that I find atheisim offensive?

12/14/2005 9:43:59 PM

this season is more than the christmas season for a lot of people. sorry but that's the harsh reality.

so yes, jesus is the reason for the christmas season, but not the reason for the season.

or are you trying to say that jesus is the reason for hannuka?

12/14/2005 9:50:04 PM

Jesus is the reason Jewish kids get decent presents on Chanukah.

And truth be told, if we could get even better loot

We'd kill him again.

12/14/2005 9:57:25 PM

just talked to my mom who is good friends with the owner and was with her tonight

cnn has called, she is going to talk to them tomorrow.

she has talked with the woman, who she said was extremely rude.

carol (owner) asked her what she could do to make her happy. the only thing would be to take the sign down.


the word "jesus" offends her.

while there my mom said 20 people had come inside to thank carol, a person on behalf of a church came by with flowers, and a bus is coming from smithfield tomorrow. l


all this from a merry christmas/ jesus is the reason for the season sign.

12/14/2005 9:58:05 PM

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"this season is more than the christmas season for a lot of people. sorry but that's the harsh reality. so yes, jesus is the reason for the christmas season, but not the reason for the season. or are you trying to say that jesus is the reason for hannuka? "

The fact that it does say "Merry Christmas" before saying "Jesus is the reason for the season" seems pretty clear to indicate that they are referring to the Christmas holiday and not anything else. Christmas, no matter how commercialized and perverted its become, is here because of Jesus. Its no different than what I have seen at some ethnic restaurants around their religious holidays. Nothing that would offend me, in fact, I like seeing people celebrate their faith, whatever it may be.

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"Jesus is the reason Jewish kids get decent presents on Chanukah. And truth be told, if we could get even better loot We'd kill him again."

I laughed.

12/15/2005 12:08:08 AM

^Christmas traditions predate Jesus (Christmas trees, gifts, maybe even egg nog). The only thing Jesus has to do with Christmas is the word "Christ" and the fact that people attribute Jesus to Christmas.

12/15/2005 12:10:23 AM

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"so whats up with republicans making this such a big issue this year? that one dude on fox news even wrote a damn book on it"

No one is committing adultery in the oval office this year and they have to distract everyone from the political liability of the war and half a dozen other things with something.

Back on subject. I agree. People these days are far too PC. Back in the day any time less than 2% of the nation did not agree with the other 98% no one cared. Today that 2% dictates what the 98% can and can't do. There will always be a 2% that don't agre with something. Heck now it is almost as if one person can bring everyone to their knees. I wonder if the person(s) that are offended truly are or are they just trying to get their face on the news. I believe that it is the latter in most cases.

There has to be some point where the crap reaches critical mass. Where the one guy surfaces to be offended at the drop of a hat and the rest of us just shrug it off.

[Edited on December 15, 2005 at 8:04 AM. Reason : -]

12/15/2005 8:02:46 AM

oh come on

as if the owner of this mcdonalds didn't put this sign up as a counter-shot in the "war on christmas"

you'll NEVER convince me that he or she put it up innocently and was then surprised to get all the controversy.. and you're a goddamn fool if you think that.

so, therefore, everyone's argument in defense of this sign is moot, because you've been defending a christmas sign. This wasn't a christmas sign. It was a deliberate counter-attack in the "war on christmas"

12/15/2005 8:08:09 AM

Her McDonald's.

Her damn sign.

More power to her for putting it up (it was a smart business move).

12/15/2005 8:20:00 AM

it's the ANTI-POLITICALLY CORRECT movement. it's about time.

12/15/2005 8:27:52 AM

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"And truth be told, if we could get even better loot We'd kill him again"

are you suggesting we farm Jesus?

12/15/2005 11:13:35 AM

theres an actual Billboard near my house that says "Jesus is the reason for the season" then at the bottom it has like 3 business names (1 is a car dealership). i thought it was pretty funny, but gettin offended enough to actually complain is retarded. it's not like McDonalds is a state owned business. thats like complaining that the sign in front of a church is offensive if it has the same thing written.

BTW, this woman is probably fat.

12/15/2005 11:43:26 AM

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"this is completely retarded, and it's JUST as stupid as people like o'reilly saying there's a "war on christmas" and saying they're offended when they DON'T see merry christmas. fuck this"

12/15/2005 12:21:36 PM

i hate mcdonalds no matter what they have on their sign.

and this is like a fight between two retarded kids.

12/15/2005 12:25:01 PM

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"while there my mom said 20 people had come inside to thank carol, a person on behalf of a church came by with flowers, and a bus is coming from smithfield tomorrow. l all this from a merry christmas/ jesus is the reason for the season sign."

I'll be sure to call Carol and thank her for having that sign out, because now I know to go somewhere else when I get a hankering for a Big Mac.

It's very simple: If a business wearing its religion on its sleeve like that bugs you, just don't go there.

12/15/2005 12:28:41 PM

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"It's very simple: If a business wearing its religion on its sleeve like that bugs you, just don't go there."

Or just quit being such a petty bitch.

I mean seriously, do people freak out when they walk into Kanki and see a big Buddha there? What about a Star of David in the window of a deli to let people know they are kosher? Fuck, no. Quit hatin' on Christians.

12/15/2005 12:39:34 PM

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"Or just quit being such a petty bitch."

I think the word is "stupid"--unless you're referring to me, in which case I want some of whatever you're on.

12/15/2005 12:50:09 PM

Dear Amanda,


Perhaps your ancestors should have given it more thought than just, "Hey, let's kill him!"

Now he's a martyr and a central figure it one of the world's largest religions, and his birthday party is more fun and easier to pronounce than your holiday (yes, we're aware that you give gifts for 7 days. However, I imagine it takes about a week for a jew to convince themselves to give something away for free).

Thanks

12/15/2005 12:52:28 PM

So, it seems that most people in this thread, regardless of their own religious preferences, all agree that this type of behavior is becoming more than an annoyance and could be interpreted as a desire for change.

What can we do to stop this PC madness. Right now, we have only agreed that it sucks and are complaining that we don't like it. What type of action can we take to show that we are tired of people being whiny little bitches?

12/15/2005 12:55:49 PM

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"What can we do to stop this PC madness. Right now, we have only agreed that it sucks and are complaining that we don't like it. What type of action can we take to show that we are tired of people being whiny little bitches?"

I'm all in favor of bitchslapping the terminally stupid on both sides, myself.

12/15/2005 12:57:22 PM