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Nighthawk
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Interesting read and something I pretty much agree with verbatim. Glad to see I'm not a racist for thinking this way.

http://movies.yahoo.com/mv/news/ap/20051215/113470248000.html

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"Morgan Freeman says the concept of a month dedicated to black history is "ridiculous."

"You're going to relegate my history to a month?" the 68-year-old actor says in an interview on CBS' "60 Minutes" to air Sunday (7 p.m. EST). "I don't want a black history month. Black history is American history."

Black History Month has roots in historian Carter G. Woodson's Negro History Week, which he designated in 1926 as the second week in February to mark the birthdays of Frederick Douglass and Abraham Lincoln.

Woodson said he hoped the week could one day be eliminated when black history would become fundamental to American history.

Freeman notes there is no "white history month," and says the only way to get rid of racism is to "stop talking about it."

The actor says he believes the labels "black" and "white" are an obstacle to beating racism.

"I am going to stop calling you a white man and I'm going to ask you to stop calling me a black man," Freeman says.

Freeman received Oscar nominations for his roles in 1987's "Street Smart," 1989's "Driving Miss Daisy" and 1994's "The Shawshank Redemption" He finally won earlier this year for "Million Dollar Baby.""

12/15/2005 8:34:30 PM

PvtJoker
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Cosby/Freeman in '08

12/15/2005 8:37:13 PM

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*applauds*

12/15/2005 8:44:32 PM

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^^ It may end up being the best ticket going. Now if they could talk the same sense into everyone else.

[Edited on December 15, 2005 at 9:12 PM. Reason : ]

12/15/2005 9:12:11 PM

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Cosby is insane. I generally agree with him on black family problems, but one time I heard him speak when he was a guest on NPR. He is batshit.

12/15/2005 9:18:01 PM

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I agree totally with Freeman's point of view.

12/15/2005 9:35:58 PM

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give a black guy some money and he thinks he's white!

12/15/2005 9:47:25 PM

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some people applaud him b/c he is being logical, and he is.

some people applaud him b/c theyre just happy to hear a black guy denounce other black people. its why you can go to maurice's racist bbq in south carolina and buy a book by some black dude that denounces jesse jackson. some people could care less about the actual perspective and are just happy to hear those uppity nigs put in their place.

its the truth.

[Edited on December 15, 2005 at 9:54 PM. Reason : a very 1337 post by yours truly]

12/15/2005 9:54:29 PM

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I'm happy because this is how I think and I'm glad to see other agree with me from both sides of "TEH RASIAL D1\/|D3" can agree. It sometimes makes you jaded to think that all blacks are like the NAACP and Jesse Jackson much like you hate to think all white people are a bunch of Klan members and skinheads like David Duke. Both preach hate in their own way and both actively seek to keep the races apart, regardless of what they say.

12/15/2005 9:59:00 PM

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winnar ^^

^ Of course, you moron. Jesse Jackson wants to hang white people.

[Edited on December 15, 2005 at 10:02 PM. Reason : ?]

12/15/2005 10:01:36 PM

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I disagree with not being able to call people "black" or "white", but I agree with generally not considering the race of a person, other than a description. We would be better off if there were no black history month, or BET, and instead those things were integrated in to other things (BET could just change it's name to hip-hop TV or something).

12/15/2005 10:53:36 PM

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If they're gonna separate history by color, I demand they also separate it by personality, which most people agree is more important than color.

asshole history month

history of the greatest assholes! hitler, bush, etc

12/15/2005 11:00:11 PM

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gay

12/15/2005 11:15:25 PM

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I think the same thing can be seen with some women in regard to women's rights.

"You're going to relegate my history citizenship to a single month amendment?"

At first equality (that we now recognize as obvious) was not recognized so what seems like special rights and attention was merited to balance things out.

Eventually most of society comes around, and what was special before seems limiting now.

I think things like this should be viewed as historical monuments to the need not to backslide, and to look out for new forms of inequality that most of society might accept that merits this special attention for a while, rather than as limiting factors.

[Edited on December 16, 2005 at 12:51 AM. Reason : .]

12/16/2005 12:50:47 AM

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what? treat people as people, no matter what their skin color? thats crazy talk!

12/16/2005 12:53:09 AM

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"some people applaud him b/c he is being logical, and he is.

some people applaud him b/c theyre just happy to hear a black guy denounce other black people. its why you can go to maurice's racist bbq in south carolina and buy a book by some black dude that denounces jesse jackson. some people could care less about the actual perspective and are just happy to hear those uppity nigs put in their place.

its the truth.
"

12/16/2005 12:53:14 AM

Kris
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so wait

Morgan Freeman isn't a black man anymore?

12/16/2005 12:58:03 AM

InsaneMan
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hate everyone equally

12/16/2005 12:58:06 AM

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stole my bike

12/16/2005 12:58:25 AM

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asshole history month"


I like that one

12/16/2005 1:33:33 AM

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"I generally agree with him on black family problems, but one time I heard him speak when he was a guest on NPR. He is batshit."


you're probably talking about his appearance on On Point earlier this year. He was defiantly different than I had ever heard before, but I wouldn't go as far as to say he's batshit crazy....

can listen to it here
http://www.onpointradio.org/shows/2005/08/20050803_b_main.asp

12/16/2005 6:27:41 AM

sarijoul
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i watched unforgiven tonight (er. . . last night ). good film.

12/16/2005 6:35:21 AM

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now white guys can talk about the other "good nigger" in hollywood.

12/16/2005 7:27:00 AM

Kris
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I'm not white

12/16/2005 9:37:33 AM

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^^ and sources of the actual racism show themselves

12/16/2005 9:43:16 AM

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"Nighthawk: It sometimes makes you jaded to think that all blacks are like the NAACP and Jesse Jackson much like you hate to think all white people are a bunch of Klan members and skinheads like David Duke. Both preach hate in their own way and both actively seek to keep the races apart, regardless of what they say."


Um, that's crap...you can dislike the personalities in the NAACP and that's perfectly fine, but to create an analogy by which you liken the NAACP to the KKK or Skinheads is just utter bullshit. The KKK and Skinheads are domestic terrorists, the NAACP is not.

Clearly, you don't know what you're talking about...

12/16/2005 10:49:57 AM

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at least the politicians were smart and made it teh shortest month of the year.

12/16/2005 11:03:41 AM

Mr E Nigma
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he does have a point.

12/16/2005 11:12:06 AM

umbrellaman
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Just like with Cosby, blacks are just going to get mad at Freeman and accuse him of pulling the ladder of success up from under him or something.

12/16/2005 11:14:05 AM

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"the only way to get rid of racism is to "stop talking about it." "


now you're starting to figure it out

12/16/2005 11:19:26 AM

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why dont we call asians "yellow"?

i dont understand why the whole black and white thing got stuck on africans and europeans. This is bullshit!

12/16/2005 11:35:31 AM

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"why dont we call asians "yellow"?"

We did and some still do.

12/16/2005 11:49:49 AM

CDeezntz
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oh well why dont we anymore?

12/16/2005 11:51:39 AM

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"the only way to get rid of racism is to "stop talking about it.""


that's absurb

you do not solve problems by not confronting them

just because progress has been made doesn't mean the problem has been fixed

12/16/2005 11:52:13 AM

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^His point wasn't ignore a problem. His point was don't create them where they don't exist.

12/16/2005 11:58:52 AM

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^^thats not how he meant not talk about it and you know it.

he meant dont highlight the difference in race just for the sake of doing it

[Edited on December 16, 2005 at 12:01 PM. Reason : *]

12/16/2005 11:59:44 AM

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"oh well why dont we anymore?"


Because they aren't yellow enough to warrant the use of it. They are more recognizable by their slanty eyes, short stature and unbelievably small penis size.

If they were bright green I'm sure we'd call them "green" rather than asian.

12/16/2005 1:30:33 PM

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white people are the only capable racists ... didnt you know that?

12/16/2005 3:01:23 PM

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Applause to Freeman.

Black History Month is a racist celebration as are any acknowledgements of race separation and inequality.

The very concept of needing division is racist.

That makes a lot of federal programs racist.

12/16/2005 3:06:33 PM

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the thing is that one gets the feeling that alot of these comments about Morgan Freeman's comments are not coming from a sincere want to improve race relations as much as it seems to come from people being closet racists

12/16/2005 3:19:34 PM

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well durrr

12/16/2005 3:27:28 PM

Lokken
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^^ only ones that are stupid as fuck

12/16/2005 3:28:58 PM

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Trust me if I was a closet racist I wouldn't work in Northeast NC where 85% of my customers are minorities and I work with a predominantly African-American staff. If I was racist I'd work in Raleigh or somewhere where I wouldn't have to see and deal with "TEH NEGROES" or at least, nearly as many of them.

I'm very comfortable around african-americans and though I might not fit in as great as some others do, I get along with almost all quite well. I've only had one or two use racial epithets on me and thats because they tried to throw the race card up when they owed money ("Do you only treat black people like this calling them everyday?" "No sir I only treat people like this who owe me money!" "Then fuck you cracker") or something like that. They are just mad and I don't hold it against them.

And Kay, sorry if that was a bad analogy. I wasn't necessarily equating the NAACP with the Klan in terms of their actions. It would have been better if I had compared those groups to the likes of the Black Panthers, or the NAACP against a white political lobby group.

I do think its interesting though that agreement about something on here with somebody of color that does not stand in the majority of the NAACP or other minority groups is instantly a closet racist. Yet I have a feeling sometimes that the folks that talk about it the most vehemently are the ones that feel they have the most to prove that they aren't racists. How many of the percentages of your friends in the predominantly white urban centers like Raleigh are of color or minorities? I guess I personally don't feel racism given or received in most of my day to day activities, even though I'm literally the minority in my area and workplace. I base my decisions about folks on their actions; fucking pieces of shit that get delinquint and give you shit come in all ages, races, and sexes. The one I have had a problem this week with was actually a middle aged white lady who was in there with her latino husband.

12/16/2005 9:09:44 PM

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Frederick Douglass and Abraham Lincoln.

Republicans both...


...interesting.

12/16/2005 10:43:50 PM

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It is interesting to note that the only one who has used the "N" word and the ones who are shouting "OMG closet RACISM!" are the ones whose political idealogy is dependent on keeping blacks poor and uneducated. People like Jesse Jackson get their scraps from the Democratic Party's table in exchange for keeping black people on the thought plantation. Heaven forbid if one of 'em should escape, they'll be labelled as uncle toms and sellouts in no time if they dare to put an "R" as their political affiliation.

Programs and quotas are still being perpetuated because certain people still think that blacks are inferior to white people and therefore cannot make it on their own. It shouldn't be any surprise that the most lily white urban areas in this country are also the most liberal.

12/16/2005 11:56:18 PM

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"Nighthawk: I wasn't necessarily equating the NAACP with the Klan in terms of their actions. It would have been better if I had compared those groups to the likes of the Black Panthers, or the NAACP against a white political lobby group."


Point taken and I appreciate the fact that you were willing to go back and correct yourself. I think misunderstandings about the NAACP are common....people hear the phrase "colored people" and immediately get all defensive, instead of doing research into what the NAACP actually does and who is involved (there are, for example, a fare number of white people involved with the NAACP).

12/17/2005 12:44:48 AM

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Since in history they were called "niggers", shouldnt it be called nigger history month?

12/17/2005 1:01:58 AM

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^Ho ho ha ha thats really funny there buddy!!! comedy central here you come. Damn that was some funny ass shit. I can't stop laughin'. Don't forget about the small folks when you make it big in comedy.

12/17/2005 2:39:55 AM

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that hurts coming from a marine/army pawn of the government

12/17/2005 2:43:37 AM

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I just gave you a compliment on your original sense of humor. Thats all, no need to analyze my profile, and come up with pointless/ harmless internet comebacks jackass.

You are soooo fucking funny man. I even laughed at the marine/army pawn joke. That shit was hillarious. Folks, this is ironic. We have a replacement for Richard Pryor in a thread about Black History Month. And hes a white guy. I be damned.

[Edited on December 17, 2005 at 2:53 AM. Reason : .]

12/17/2005 2:47:38 AM

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