Nighthawk All American 19623 Posts user info edit post |
Interesting read and something I pretty much agree with verbatim. Glad to see I'm not a racist for thinking this way.
http://movies.yahoo.com/mv/news/ap/20051215/113470248000.html
Quote : | "Morgan Freeman says the concept of a month dedicated to black history is "ridiculous."
"You're going to relegate my history to a month?" the 68-year-old actor says in an interview on CBS' "60 Minutes" to air Sunday (7 p.m. EST). "I don't want a black history month. Black history is American history."
Black History Month has roots in historian Carter G. Woodson's Negro History Week, which he designated in 1926 as the second week in February to mark the birthdays of Frederick Douglass and Abraham Lincoln. Woodson said he hoped the week could one day be eliminated when black history would become fundamental to American history.
Freeman notes there is no "white history month," and says the only way to get rid of racism is to "stop talking about it."
The actor says he believes the labels "black" and "white" are an obstacle to beating racism.
"I am going to stop calling you a white man and I'm going to ask you to stop calling me a black man," Freeman says.
Freeman received Oscar nominations for his roles in 1987's "Street Smart," 1989's "Driving Miss Daisy" and 1994's "The Shawshank Redemption" He finally won earlier this year for "Million Dollar Baby."" |
12/15/2005 8:34:30 PM |
PvtJoker All American 15000 Posts user info edit post |
Cosby/Freeman in '08 12/15/2005 8:37:13 PM |
scud All American 10804 Posts user info edit post |
*applauds* 12/15/2005 8:44:32 PM |
A Tanzarian drip drip boom 10995 Posts user info edit post |
^^ It may end up being the best ticket going. Now if they could talk the same sense into everyone else.
[Edited on December 15, 2005 at 9:12 PM. Reason : ] 12/15/2005 9:12:11 PM |
Lumex All American 3666 Posts user info edit post |
Cosby is insane. I generally agree with him on black family problems, but one time I heard him speak when he was a guest on NPR. He is batshit. 12/15/2005 9:18:01 PM |
spookyjon All American 21682 Posts user info edit post |
I agree totally with Freeman's point of view. 12/15/2005 9:35:58 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
give a black guy some money and he thinks he's white! 12/15/2005 9:47:25 PM |
PinkandBlack Suspended 10517 Posts user info edit post |
some people applaud him b/c he is being logical, and he is.
some people applaud him b/c theyre just happy to hear a black guy denounce other black people. its why you can go to maurice's racist bbq in south carolina and buy a book by some black dude that denounces jesse jackson. some people could care less about the actual perspective and are just happy to hear those uppity nigs put in their place.
its the truth.
[Edited on December 15, 2005 at 9:54 PM. Reason : a very 1337 post by yours truly] 12/15/2005 9:54:29 PM |
Nighthawk All American 19623 Posts user info edit post |
I'm happy because this is how I think and I'm glad to see other agree with me from both sides of "TEH RASIAL D1\/|D3" can agree. It sometimes makes you jaded to think that all blacks are like the NAACP and Jesse Jackson much like you hate to think all white people are a bunch of Klan members and skinheads like David Duke. Both preach hate in their own way and both actively seek to keep the races apart, regardless of what they say. 12/15/2005 9:59:00 PM |
MathFreak All American 14478 Posts user info edit post |
winnar ^^
^ Of course, you moron. Jesse Jackson wants to hang white people.
[Edited on December 15, 2005 at 10:02 PM. Reason : ?] 12/15/2005 10:01:36 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
I disagree with not being able to call people "black" or "white", but I agree with generally not considering the race of a person, other than a description. We would be better off if there were no black history month, or BET, and instead those things were integrated in to other things (BET could just change it's name to hip-hop TV or something). 12/15/2005 10:53:36 PM |
InsaneMan All American 22802 Posts user info edit post |
If they're gonna separate history by color, I demand they also separate it by personality, which most people agree is more important than color.
asshole history month
history of the greatest assholes! hitler, bush, etc 12/15/2005 11:00:11 PM |
arghx Deucefest '04 7584 Posts user info edit post |
gay 12/15/2005 11:15:25 PM |
Supplanter supple anteater 21831 Posts user info edit post |
I think the same thing can be seen with some women in regard to women's rights.
"You're going to relegate my history citizenship to a single month amendment?"
At first equality (that we now recognize as obvious) was not recognized so what seems like special rights and attention was merited to balance things out.
Eventually most of society comes around, and what was special before seems limiting now.
I think things like this should be viewed as historical monuments to the need not to backslide, and to look out for new forms of inequality that most of society might accept that merits this special attention for a while, rather than as limiting factors.
[Edited on December 16, 2005 at 12:51 AM. Reason : .] 12/16/2005 12:50:47 AM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53065 Posts user info edit post |
what? treat people as people, no matter what their skin color? thats crazy talk! 12/16/2005 12:53:09 AM |
JonHGuth Suspended 39171 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "some people applaud him b/c he is being logical, and he is.
some people applaud him b/c theyre just happy to hear a black guy denounce other black people. its why you can go to maurice's racist bbq in south carolina and buy a book by some black dude that denounces jesse jackson. some people could care less about the actual perspective and are just happy to hear those uppity nigs put in their place.
its the truth. " |
12/16/2005 12:53:14 AM |
Kris All American 36908 Posts user info edit post |
so wait
Morgan Freeman isn't a black man anymore? 12/16/2005 12:58:03 AM |
InsaneMan All American 22802 Posts user info edit post |
hate everyone equally 12/16/2005 12:58:06 AM |
ssjamind All American 30102 Posts user info edit post |
stole my bike 12/16/2005 12:58:25 AM |
theone Suspended 694 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " asshole history month" |
I like that one12/16/2005 1:33:33 AM |
agentlion All American 13936 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I generally agree with him on black family problems, but one time I heard him speak when he was a guest on NPR. He is batshit." |
you're probably talking about his appearance on On Point earlier this year. He was defiantly different than I had ever heard before, but I wouldn't go as far as to say he's batshit crazy....
can listen to it here http://www.onpointradio.org/shows/2005/08/20050803_b_main.asp12/16/2005 6:27:41 AM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
i watched unforgiven tonight (er. . . last night ). good film. 12/16/2005 6:35:21 AM |
Socks`` All American 11792 Posts user info edit post |
now white guys can talk about the other "good nigger" in hollywood. 12/16/2005 7:27:00 AM |
Kris All American 36908 Posts user info edit post |
I'm not white 12/16/2005 9:37:33 AM |
Lokken All American 13361 Posts user info edit post |
^^ and sources of the actual racism show themselves 12/16/2005 9:43:16 AM |
Kay_Yow All American 6858 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Nighthawk: It sometimes makes you jaded to think that all blacks are like the NAACP and Jesse Jackson much like you hate to think all white people are a bunch of Klan members and skinheads like David Duke. Both preach hate in their own way and both actively seek to keep the races apart, regardless of what they say." |
Um, that's crap...you can dislike the personalities in the NAACP and that's perfectly fine, but to create an analogy by which you liken the NAACP to the KKK or Skinheads is just utter bullshit. The KKK and Skinheads are domestic terrorists, the NAACP is not.
Clearly, you don't know what you're talking about...12/16/2005 10:49:57 AM |
HUR All American 17732 Posts user info edit post |
at least the politicians were smart and made it teh shortest month of the year. 12/16/2005 11:03:41 AM |
Mr E Nigma All American 5450 Posts user info edit post |
he does have a point. 12/16/2005 11:12:06 AM |
umbrellaman All American 10892 Posts user info edit post |
Just like with Cosby, blacks are just going to get mad at Freeman and accuse him of pulling the ladder of success up from under him or something. 12/16/2005 11:14:05 AM |
davelen21 All American 4119 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "the only way to get rid of racism is to "stop talking about it." " |
now you're starting to figure it out12/16/2005 11:19:26 AM |
CDeezntz All American 6845 Posts user info edit post |
why dont we call asians "yellow"?
i dont understand why the whole black and white thing got stuck on africans and europeans. This is bullshit! 12/16/2005 11:35:31 AM |
msb2ncsu All American 14033 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "why dont we call asians "yellow"?" |
We did and some still do.12/16/2005 11:49:49 AM |
CDeezntz All American 6845 Posts user info edit post |
oh well why dont we anymore? 12/16/2005 11:51:39 AM |
nastoute All American 31058 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "the only way to get rid of racism is to "stop talking about it."" |
that's absurb
you do not solve problems by not confronting them
just because progress has been made doesn't mean the problem has been fixed12/16/2005 11:52:13 AM |
jbtilley All American 12797 Posts user info edit post |
^His point wasn't ignore a problem. His point was don't create them where they don't exist. 12/16/2005 11:58:52 AM |
Lokken All American 13361 Posts user info edit post |
^^thats not how he meant not talk about it and you know it.
he meant dont highlight the difference in race just for the sake of doing it
[Edited on December 16, 2005 at 12:01 PM. Reason : *] 12/16/2005 11:59:44 AM |
Kris All American 36908 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "oh well why dont we anymore?" |
Because they aren't yellow enough to warrant the use of it. They are more recognizable by their slanty eyes, short stature and unbelievably small penis size.
If they were bright green I'm sure we'd call them "green" rather than asian.12/16/2005 1:30:33 PM |
TKEshultz All American 7327 Posts user info edit post |
white people are the only capable racists ... didnt you know that? 12/16/2005 3:01:23 PM |
mschmidt64 Veteran 105 Posts user info edit post |
Applause to Freeman.
Black History Month is a racist celebration as are any acknowledgements of race separation and inequality.
The very concept of needing division is racist.
That makes a lot of federal programs racist. 12/16/2005 3:06:33 PM |
nastoute All American 31058 Posts user info edit post |
the thing is that one gets the feeling that alot of these comments about Morgan Freeman's comments are not coming from a sincere want to improve race relations as much as it seems to come from people being closet racists 12/16/2005 3:19:34 PM |
jwb9984 All American 14039 Posts user info edit post |
well durrr 12/16/2005 3:27:28 PM |
Lokken All American 13361 Posts user info edit post |
^^ only ones that are stupid as fuck 12/16/2005 3:28:58 PM |
Nighthawk All American 19623 Posts user info edit post |
Trust me if I was a closet racist I wouldn't work in Northeast NC where 85% of my customers are minorities and I work with a predominantly African-American staff. If I was racist I'd work in Raleigh or somewhere where I wouldn't have to see and deal with "TEH NEGROES" or at least, nearly as many of them.
I'm very comfortable around african-americans and though I might not fit in as great as some others do, I get along with almost all quite well. I've only had one or two use racial epithets on me and thats because they tried to throw the race card up when they owed money ("Do you only treat black people like this calling them everyday?" "No sir I only treat people like this who owe me money!" "Then fuck you cracker") or something like that. They are just mad and I don't hold it against them.
And Kay, sorry if that was a bad analogy. I wasn't necessarily equating the NAACP with the Klan in terms of their actions. It would have been better if I had compared those groups to the likes of the Black Panthers, or the NAACP against a white political lobby group.
I do think its interesting though that agreement about something on here with somebody of color that does not stand in the majority of the NAACP or other minority groups is instantly a closet racist. Yet I have a feeling sometimes that the folks that talk about it the most vehemently are the ones that feel they have the most to prove that they aren't racists. How many of the percentages of your friends in the predominantly white urban centers like Raleigh are of color or minorities? I guess I personally don't feel racism given or received in most of my day to day activities, even though I'm literally the minority in my area and workplace. I base my decisions about folks on their actions; fucking pieces of shit that get delinquint and give you shit come in all ages, races, and sexes. The one I have had a problem this week with was actually a middle aged white lady who was in there with her latino husband. 12/16/2005 9:09:44 PM |
kdawg(c) Suspended 10008 Posts user info edit post |
Frederick Douglass and Abraham Lincoln.
Republicans both...
...interesting. 12/16/2005 10:43:50 PM |
Wlfpk4Life All American 5613 Posts user info edit post |
It is interesting to note that the only one who has used the "N" word and the ones who are shouting "OMG closet RACISM!" are the ones whose political idealogy is dependent on keeping blacks poor and uneducated. People like Jesse Jackson get their scraps from the Democratic Party's table in exchange for keeping black people on the thought plantation. Heaven forbid if one of 'em should escape, they'll be labelled as uncle toms and sellouts in no time if they dare to put an "R" as their political affiliation.
Programs and quotas are still being perpetuated because certain people still think that blacks are inferior to white people and therefore cannot make it on their own. It shouldn't be any surprise that the most lily white urban areas in this country are also the most liberal. 12/16/2005 11:56:18 PM |
Kay_Yow All American 6858 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Nighthawk: I wasn't necessarily equating the NAACP with the Klan in terms of their actions. It would have been better if I had compared those groups to the likes of the Black Panthers, or the NAACP against a white political lobby group." |
Point taken and I appreciate the fact that you were willing to go back and correct yourself. I think misunderstandings about the NAACP are common....people hear the phrase "colored people" and immediately get all defensive, instead of doing research into what the NAACP actually does and who is involved (there are, for example, a fare number of white people involved with the NAACP).12/17/2005 12:44:48 AM |
InsaneMan All American 22802 Posts user info edit post |
Since in history they were called "niggers", shouldnt it be called nigger history month? 12/17/2005 1:01:58 AM |
theone Suspended 694 Posts user info edit post |
^Ho ho ha ha thats really funny there buddy!!! comedy central here you come. Damn that was some funny ass shit. I can't stop laughin'. Don't forget about the small folks when you make it big in comedy. 12/17/2005 2:39:55 AM |
InsaneMan All American 22802 Posts user info edit post |
that hurts coming from a marine/army pawn of the government 12/17/2005 2:43:37 AM |
theone Suspended 694 Posts user info edit post |
I just gave you a compliment on your original sense of humor. Thats all, no need to analyze my profile, and come up with pointless/ harmless internet comebacks jackass.
You are soooo fucking funny man. I even laughed at the marine/army pawn joke. That shit was hillarious. Folks, this is ironic. We have a replacement for Richard Pryor in a thread about Black History Month. And hes a white guy. I be damned.
[Edited on December 17, 2005 at 2:53 AM. Reason : .] 12/17/2005 2:47:38 AM |