Anyone aware of writing business plans, getting capital, and selling ideas?

12/16/2005 3:01:35 PM

yep

it's not hard, just requires a lot of persistance and luck

12/16/2005 3:05:55 PM

do you have any experience?

12/16/2005 3:06:34 PM

let me know if you need a CIO

12/16/2005 3:08:31 PM

i had to make a faux start-up company for a class that we had to do business plans, product specifications, etc. for

kitty hawk capital is a local VC firm that you could try, they helped fund RF microdevices

12/16/2005 3:09:29 PM

http://www.score.org/

These guys are a good resource for someone starting a new business. The N.C. chapter is downtown in the offices above the US Post Office on Fayetteville Street Mall.

12/16/2005 3:09:31 PM

well, I have a couple very good ideas but my busy schedule hasn't given me time to research opportunities in the RTP area. I am going to design the technology and possibly develop applications for it.

12/16/2005 3:10:15 PM

CI Partners is a company here in Raleigh that invests in startup companies. I took an class on innovation and we created prototypes for new products and pitched them to that company.

12/16/2005 3:36:29 PM

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"design the technology and possibly develop applications for it"

Huh? So you are going to come up with this new fangled creation, then determine where it needs to be used? Rather than the typical other way around how this normally happens? You aren't getting started off on the right foot it seems.

12/16/2005 3:56:41 PM

well, I am talking more along the lines of creating typical user applications for the technology to market it. Users need something to begin with.

12/16/2005 3:59:32 PM

Maybe I am an ignoramus, but I have no idea what you are talking about.

12/16/2005 4:07:04 PM

for example the yahoo maps API.

12/16/2005 4:09:31 PM

Well, now that you used an example I can understand a little better. I'd suggest a technical writer be on your team, though. For instance:

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" I am going to design the technology and possibly develop applications for it."

For your example, google developed the technology, provided the API, and you just developed an app to utilize the tecnology, which is definitely not what you stated here.

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"creating typical user applications for the technology to market it"

I think this needs some commas in places, or some cleaning up at the very least because I am not sure what is marketing what.

12/16/2005 4:18:46 PM

you are too stupid to succeed. don't bother


/thread

12/16/2005 4:19:56 PM

Anything counts as more successful than a frikkin Best Buy Geek Squad monkey.

12/16/2005 4:21:05 PM

i'll tell my roommate you called him a monkey, redneck.

12/16/2005 4:22:26 PM

its esgargs man he is a smart dude

12/16/2005 4:22:50 PM

Stop talking to yourself in third person, terrorist.

12/16/2005 4:23:03 PM

talking to myself in third person? i was wrong, you aren't stupid. you are freakin retarded.

12/16/2005 4:24:06 PM

yea you never worked for Geek Squad. Tell me you weren't the one who suggested than an A/C actually heats up a room, too.

12/16/2005 4:29:11 PM

A heat pump can both heat and cool a room. What people normally term an A/C in the summer time is normally the same device that heats in the winter time, so when you say an "A/C can heat a room" that can be accurate, depending on what you take the terms to mean. Also, if you've ever stood by the condenser of an HVAC system, or behind a window unit AC, you will notice that it does actually blow heat (the same heat it's extracting from your house).

12/16/2005 4:36:18 PM

Except that if you use a heat pump to heat a room, it has so little efficiency that you'd end up paying thousands of dollars to heat an average house.

You people seriously lack brains.

12/16/2005 4:38:36 PM

uh, wrong.

And since natural gas prices have quadrupled over the last couple of years, heat pumps are even MORE economic.

12/16/2005 4:52:12 PM

As for your thread topic:

Everyone and their brother has a "couple of great ideas". If yours is really good, make it first, THEN worry about this stuff. If you need shit tons of capital and resources JUST to get started, I can almost garauntee it's not going to be worth anyone's time.

12/16/2005 4:53:54 PM

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[Edited on December 16, 2005 at 5:04 PM. Reason : SUSPEND NEON!!!]

12/16/2005 5:04:02 PM

A/C Does not heat inside
Heat pumps will heat and cool inside thank to the reversing valve

You can't simply add a reversing valve to an A/C unit and make it a heat pump it is more complicated than that.

Many many many people use heatpumps, including schools and office buildings. The International trade center in charlotte has several hundred heatpumps and they are VERY efficient (water source) Ground source is another effiecient one. The cooler it is outside the less efficient a heat pump is.

Changing the setpoint on a heat pump by more than one degree at a time is a bad idea in the winter time. So do not set your heatpumps back at night. When it comes on after being set back it will bring the emergency heat (electric strip heat) on. That gets expensive.

12/16/2005 5:15:00 PM

haha

12/16/2005 5:15:12 PM

Heatpumps for heating directly is a very very inefficient process. Most heat pumps you talk about heat water or something. Also like you said you cannot use the same heat pump to cool and heat. noen is a fool on both his posts.

[Edited on December 16, 2005 at 7:27 PM. Reason : .]

12/16/2005 7:20:42 PM

when I say water source heat pumps...never mind

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"Heat Pump FAQs. Source: US Department of Energy Why Buy An Energy Efficient Heat Pump? If you use electricity to heat your home, consider installing an energy-efficient heat pump system. Heat pumps are the most efficient form of electric heating in mild and moderate climates, providing two to three times more heating than the equivalent amount of energy they consume in electricity. Air source heat pumps are recommended for mild and moderate climate regions, where the winter temperatures usually remain above 30°F. Ground source (also known as geothermal) heat pumps are more efficient and economical to operate when compared to conventional air source heat pumps, especially in climates with similar heating and cooling loads. About Heat Pump Efficiency Three types of heat pumps are typically available for residences: (1) air-to-air, (2) water source, and (3) ground source. Heat pumps collect heat from the air, water, or ground outside your home and concentrate it for use inside. Heat pumps operate in reverse to cool your home by collecting the heat inside your house and effectively pumping it outside. Heat pumps have both heating and cooling ratings-both in terms of capacity and efficiency. Capacity ratings are generally in British thermal unit (Btu) per hour or tons (one ton equals 12,000 Btu/hr). Heating efficiency for air source heat pumps is indicated by the heating season performance factor (HSPF). The HSPF tells you the ratio of the seasonal heating output in Btu's divided by the seasonal power consumption in Watt-hours. A heat pump can supply 2 to 3 times as much heat as it consumes in electricity because it moves energy from outside to inside (or vice versa). Heat pump efficiency varies with outdoor temperature. The performance of an air source heat pump in heating mode decreases with the drop in outside air temperature. The actual seasonal efficiency (as opposed to the rating) is therefore higher in a mild climate than in a severe cold climate. In the cooling mode, a heat pump operates exactly like a central air conditioner. The seasonal energy efficiency ratio (SEER) is analogous to the HSPF but tells you the seasonal cooling performance. Federal efficiency standards require that conventional heat pumps have an HSPF rating of at least 6.8 and a SEER rating of at least 10.0. The most efficient air source heat pumps have an HSPF rating between 9.0 and 10.0 and a SEER above 14 or so. Tips for Buying a New Heat Pump Heat pumps must be sized and installed properly to work efficiently. Heat pumps are sized for either the heating demand or cooling demand, depending on which implies the larger unit (almost always cooling). However, heat pumps do not perform well over extended periods of sub-freezing temperature and it may not be cost effective to meet all your heating needs with an air-source heat pump. Ground source heat pumps (GSHPs) are more efficient and less noisy than conventional air-source heat pumps. Though GSHPs are more expensive to install, the dramatic improvement in efficiency can yield attractive life cycle cost savings. However, the appropriateness of a GSHP depends on the size of your lot, the conditions of the subsoil and landscape, and sometimes the relative magnitudes of summer cooling and winter heating requirements. Select a heat pump with a higher HSPF. For units with comparable HSPF ratings, check their steady-state rating at -8.3°C, the low temperature setting. The unit with the higher rating will be more efficient. Select a heat pump with a demand-defrost control. This will minimize the defrost cycles thereby reducing supplementary and heat pump energy use. Select a heat pump with an outdoor sound rating of 7.6 bels or lower. The lower the value, the less noisy the outdoor unit. If installing a heat pump in an existing home without an existing heat pump or air conditioner, ductwork may need to be enlarged. Heat pump systems generally require larger duct sizes than other central heating systems. For proper heat pump operation, air flow should be 50 to 60 liters per second per kilowatt-hour or 400 to 500 cubic foot per minute per ton of cooling capacity. If a heat pump is added to an electric furnace, the heat pump coil can usually be placed on the cold (upstream) side of the furnace for greatest efficiency. Fans and compressors make noise. Locate the outdoor unit away from windows and adjacent buildings. Some units also make noise when they vibrate. You can reduce this noise by selecting quiet equipment or by mounting the unit on a noise-absorbing base. Tips for Lowering Your Heat Pump's Energy Usage Do not manually set back a heat pump's thermostat at night. Without a thermostat specifically designed for heat pump set-back, the electric resistance backup heat will engage when the thermostat is raised in the morning, resulting in much higher energy consumption. Continuous indoor fan operation can degrade heat pump performance unless a high-efficiency, variable-speed fan motor is used. Operate the system on the "auto" fan setting on the thermostat. Clean or change filters once a month or as needed, and maintain the system according to manufacturer's instructions. Filter and coil maintenance have a dramatic impact on system performance and service life. Dirty filters, coils, and fans reduce airflow through the system. Reduced airflow decreases system performance and can lead to compressor damage if it continues for an extended period. Clean and lubricate the fan motor annually to ensure the required airflow is provided for proper operation. The fan speed should be checked at the same time. Incorrect pulley settings, loose fan belts, or incorrect motor speeds can all contribute to poor performance. Outdoor units should be protected from high winds. High winds may reduce efficiency by causing defrost problems. However, outdoor units should not be placed in restricted areas that will result in recirculation of air over the coil. "

12/16/2005 8:52:36 PM

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"Heatpumps for heating directly is a very very inefficient process. Most heat pumps you talk about heat water or something. Also like you said you cannot use the same heat pump to cool and heat. noen is a fool on both his posts."

Where did I ever say for direct heating? Where did I say they both heat and cool? I did neither, and you are the fool son.

12/17/2005 10:27:13 PM

twisted

12/17/2005 10:52:51 PM

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182 POSTS PER DAY?? ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS?! THIS GUY HAS NO FUCKING LIFE!!!!

12/18/2005 1:12:43 AM

esgargs will never start any company much less a tech one

12/18/2005 10:47:05 AM

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"(182.3 per day) "

holy shit

12/18/2005 6:01:01 PM

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"I have a couple very good ideas but my busy schedule hasn't given me time to research opportunities"

Maybe you would have more time if you didn't post on tww 180+ times per day?

[Edited on December 20, 2005 at 7:55 AM. Reason : -]

12/20/2005 7:54:59 AM

i'm not sure if anyone has pointed this out yet, but if you're a business noob, which it's pretty apparent you are, but your intent on starting a company, there's no reason to go right into the heart of RTP to do it. Just find some cheap office space in Raleigh or the surrounding areas to keep your costs down. Then once you're big time and VCs are knocking your door down to throw money at you, or you're actually making revenue, then you can move to a more tech friendly location like Cent. Campus or RTP or some business park in Cary.
But just run it from your garage, or a cheap office or something economical for a while

12/20/2005 9:49:38 AM

i equate this to snewf's chessboard

12/20/2005 10:17:41 AM

HQ Raleigh, American Underground or First Flight center are all fine.

6/5/2014 9:43:56 PM

wat

6/5/2014 11:57:07 PM

haha this thread is funny

6/6/2014 9:49:00 AM

Lets get back on topic about heat pumps

6/6/2014 11:19:32 AM

agreed.

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"Except that if you use a heat pump to heat a room, it has so little efficiency that you'd end up paying thousands of dollars to heat an average house. You people seriously lack brains."

Thousands of dollars to heat a house with a heat pump...That provided some great LOLs.

[Edited on June 6, 2014 at 12:00 PM. Reason : ]

6/6/2014 11:59:46 AM

^^^^ They are good places for startups.

6/6/2014 12:01:50 PM

you definitely will pay thousands of dollars to heat an average house with a heat pump, that's true

[Edited on June 6, 2014 at 2:47 PM. Reason : .]

6/6/2014 2:47:10 PM

if you have a crappy heat pump, a poorly insulated (or poorly air-sealed) house or a very large house then yes you certainly can. But heat pumps are very viable especially down south. Our house is a little shy of 2500ft2 and the heat pump serves about 1300 ft2 of that and our record total winter electric bill still hasn't broken $100 for a single month even with lows in the single digits several times this winter (which was the coldest since we bought our house). Typically our total electric bill in the winter averages like $60 and that's obviously including more than the heat pump. Our heat pump is 13 years old and isn't even high efficiency.

[Edited on June 6, 2014 at 7:12 PM. Reason : ]

6/6/2014 7:10:22 PM

No time frame was specified. Over the life of the heat pump, you will most certainly pay thousands of dollars.

6/6/2014 7:52:31 PM

6/6/2014 9:08:55 PM

^^ this

6/7/2014 7:59:46 AM