i mean why not...Jimmy Carter says so...

I agree though, its just a over throw to show that they didnt want the crap load for a gov. they had that got nothing done.

2/2/2006 4:03:18 AM

uh, bush said so too there, pal. they pretty much have to give them a chance, or else peace in that area is impossible

it probably is anyway but... you know

[Edited on February 2, 2006 at 7:25 AM. Reason : .]

2/2/2006 7:24:33 AM

the idea is that if we get overly combative with them right off the bat, it's a sure thing that the peace process will, at best, stagnate.

basically, we're hoping they act right, but not really expecting it, and when they start fucking up, then they can get dealt with.

2/2/2006 7:32:30 AM

kind of like the salisburyban!

2/2/2006 7:35:06 AM

well, if hamas is now a legitimate government, and they launch attacks on israel...doesnt that basically mean a declaration of war by a sovereign body. i know the intifada has already been a "war" but now they represent the people of a country so doesnt this give israel the right to take the gloves off and seriously fuck them up. i think israel deserves that right. i know many of you hate israel, and im not saying they are total angels in this, i just think that hamas needs to play by the rules and understand the consequences.

[Edited on February 2, 2006 at 9:16 AM. Reason : .]

2/2/2006 9:13:21 AM

Hamas? Jamás!

2/2/2006 9:52:21 AM

^ I'm still hoping the Israeli's will volunteer/surrender/be kidnapped and relocate their entire nation to Wisconsin. It would solve two problems: Wisconsin has a painful shortage of jews, and the jews have a painful overabundance of palestinians.

2/2/2006 10:13:13 AM

OMFG
LOL
GG LONESNARK

2/2/2006 10:17:55 AM

Poor Humus thread.

2/2/2006 10:32:32 AM

I'm used to having a moderator that doesn't moderate.

2/2/2006 1:10:44 PM

HAM ASS

2/2/2006 1:19:14 PM

"Give Hamas a chance" was actually the original title of the song by the Beatles.

2/2/2006 1:21:09 PM

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"^ I'm still hoping the Israeli's will volunteer/surrender/be kidnapped and relocate their entire nation to Wisconsin. It would solve two problems: Wisconsin has a painful shortage of jews, and the jews have a painful overabundance of palestinians."

I say give them a section of New Jersey. Easy to integrate, and they can call it "New Jerusalem".

the last thing we want is a buch of people of German ancestry (as is in Wisconsinn) getting pissed at them again.

2/2/2006 1:57:14 PM

I bet importing Israel will do wonders for the US GDP-

Honestly, its kinda like Nixon opening up China. If there is going to be peace in Israel, Hamas would have to lead it.

2/2/2006 3:25:01 PM

2/2/2006 4:38:38 PM

those comics are hella funny to me

2/2/2006 4:41:22 PM

I agree whole heartedly with those newspaper editorials. It's something the far right and the left can at least agree on.

Extreme Islam is not in line with Western Values.

2/2/2006 4:44:38 PM

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"well, if hamas is now a legitimate government, and they launch attacks on israel...doesnt that basically mean a declaration of war by a sovereign body."

I'm curious as to what you define as a 'sovereign body'.

2/4/2006 1:02:49 AM

Tribal sovereignty means that. It's sovereign. You're a. . . you're a. . . you've been given sovereignty and you're viewed as a sovereign entity.

2/4/2006 1:13:10 AM

i dont get why muslims are all extreme anyway

why cant they just believe in muhammad without wanting to kill everyone else that doesnt

2/4/2006 7:47:38 AM

why do they get so offended and riot and act like animals becasue someone makes fun of their religion. lord knows how many times christians and jews are spoofed or insulted or made fun of

2/4/2006 8:57:33 AM

Give peas a chance.

2/4/2006 12:34:59 PM

In Islam, any image of Muhammad is strictly forbidden. Its a sacrilege.

Rioting in the street and destroying property (in their home nations) is not the solution.

Have you also noticed that when the Palestinian factions are fighting themselves, there are far less suicide bombs in Israel?

2/4/2006 10:18:28 PM

everytime Ganesh is mocked

a dothead fasts

2/4/2006 10:27:04 PM

I don't think that Hamas is gonna get many more chances after calling the recent suicide bombing a "legitimate response to Israeli aggression". And they have unequivocally refused to strike out "the destruction of Isreal" from their charter statement.

I also find it interesting how Israel pulls out of Gaza and suffers daily rocket attacks as a result. That doesn't bode well for the 2-state model. If the Palestinians want an all-out war with Israel, they are gonna get wiped off the map very quickly. The Hamas govt has to be accountable for the actions of Palestinian militants, and by condoning actions such as a suicide bombing in a crowded restaraunt, they are sanctioning terrorism.

Israel must be allowed to protect it's own people, even if that means further isolating and marginalizing the Palestinians.

[Edited on April 20, 2006 at 1:50 AM. Reason : 2]

4/20/2006 1:49:09 AM

Isn't this what we wanted? Democracy is spreading in the middle east.

4/20/2006 2:51:36 AM

^Yup, kinda one of those thngs where you have to be careful of what you wish for.

Quote :

"if hamas is now a legitimate government, and they launch attacks on israel...doesnt that basically mean a declaration of war by a sovereign body."

Quote :

"basically, we're hoping they act right, but not really expecting it, and when they start fucking up, then they can get dealt with"

I'm glad the democratic process worked in for palestine. So I say, give them an honest chance. and if they do fuck it up, its one country delcaring de facto war on another.

Then we can trun the whole area into a no fly zone for the next 10,000 years or so. Maybe then christians, muslims, and jews will find somthing else they all consider holy and can continue killing each other over.

4/20/2006 7:24:57 AM

Or maybe we could just let the two states duke it out

4/20/2006 10:30:25 AM

^I think thats pretty much the forcast anyway. Isreal is gonna keep on issuing hits on militants among other assignments and Palestinians are gonna keep on bombing Tel Aviv establishments. Since this cycle has been going on for so long nothing short of Lonesnark's idea is gonna slow down it's momentum.

4/20/2006 12:50:39 PM