JWHWolf All American 3320 Posts user info edit post |
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2356392
Quote : | "The Tar Heels were the week's biggest climber, moving from No. 15 to No. 10. UNC received one first-place vote, the only team to garner a vote other than UConn." |
Wow. Just wow. 3/6/2006 1:16:51 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
They are 21-6. We are 21-8. Wow. We prolly won't be ranked. Its amazing how much the tables have turned for us. 3/6/2006 1:20:00 PM |
JWHWolf All American 3320 Posts user info edit post |
That one first place vote probably came from a UNC crackaddict coach.... Who are the voters this year anyway?? 3/6/2006 1:21:00 PM |
sober46an3 All American 47925 Posts user info edit post |
i mean, i understand that you guys hate UNC, and i do as well.
BUT, if you've watched any of their games lately, you would see that right now, they are playing as well, if not better, then any other team in the nation. it pains me to say it, but its true.
the way we are playing right now, we dont deserve to be in the top 25. UNC without a doubt is playing like a top 10 team. 3/6/2006 1:30:20 PM |
Weeeees All American 23730 Posts user info edit post |
i agree with you brad, but a #1 vote that's a bit extreme 3/6/2006 1:32:35 PM |
SouthPaW12 All American 10141 Posts user info edit post |
I'm amazed we're at #22
UNC deserves the 10-spot...but a #1 vote? Naaaahhhh... 3/6/2006 1:34:05 PM |
JWHWolf All American 3320 Posts user info edit post |
That's the whole reason I posted this. It had nothing to do with their spot in the polls. It was the number 1 vote that got me. I know they're playing great. If we had ref support like Hansbrough does, we'd be chicken-winging and walking over every opponent too. 3/6/2006 1:34:14 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
their #1 vote shows just how much of a lopsided playing field we have with UNC 3/6/2006 1:50:50 PM |
sober46an3 All American 47925 Posts user info edit post |
i dont think their #1 vote had anything to do with us losing twice to them this year. 3/6/2006 1:51:41 PM |
Woodfoot All American 60354 Posts user info edit post |
^ 3/6/2006 2:00:44 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
so you think they deserved a #1 vote then
cause all im saying is that if State had beaten UVA and Duke last week, we wouldnt have gone up past 11th in the polls] 3/6/2006 2:01:47 PM |
cali_j2004 All American 3724 Posts user info edit post |
there is no chance in hell that they deserve a number 1 vote, that coach should be castrated. 3/6/2006 2:03:54 PM |
JWHWolf All American 3320 Posts user info edit post |
I'm just trying to call attention to what seems to be a growing cancer which is the UNC bias in all forms of media. Even the coaches poll isn't immune. 3/6/2006 2:06:54 PM |
cali_j2004 All American 3724 Posts user info edit post |
no question they should be in the top 10, but giving them a first place vote is like that idiot did in the preseason football poll when he voted Louisville no.1. Fuckin idiots, if you are going to have a poll or rankings, at least try to make it realistic. 3/6/2006 2:08:41 PM |
sober46an3 All American 47925 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "so you think they deserved a #1 vote then" |
i never said that. dont put words in my mouth.
i said that the #1 vote has nothing to do with a lopsided playing field.
Quote : | "cause all im saying is that if State had beaten UVA and Duke last week, we wouldnt have gone up past 11th in the polls" |
1. we werent #15 2. they beat uVa by almost 50. 3. they beat duke at duke...and looked very impressive doing so. 4. number #11 lost and #12-#14 didnt do anything that warented moving up.
if we were #15 and had the same kind of week, then yes, i think we would have moved into the top 10.
[Edited on March 6, 2006 at 2:14 PM. Reason : df]3/6/2006 2:09:58 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
and by "playing field" i implied RANKINGS, not games...ie this thread is about rankings...dont put anything in my mouth either bitch] 3/6/2006 2:10:42 PM |
crazyNCboy Suspended 781 Posts user info edit post |
Crying about a poll that means absolutely nothing.......not suprising...... 3/6/2006 2:11:28 PM |
cali_j2004 All American 3724 Posts user info edit post |
no one is crying at all, we are all discussing how there is no chance in hell a 21-6 team is deserving of a number 1 vote
[Edited on March 6, 2006 at 2:12 PM. Reason : and the only team in the country that would get that handed to them is UNC] 3/6/2006 2:12:16 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
yeah it means absolutely nothing...not like it could possibly influence NCAA tournament seedings 3/6/2006 2:12:40 PM |
SandSanta All American 22435 Posts user info edit post |
lets see
Beat your both your rivals by a resounding margin.
One of which is ranked #1.
While blowing the living hell out of everyone in between.
NOPE
DONT SEE HOW THEY COULD GET A NUMBER ONE VOTE AT ALL 3/6/2006 2:13:31 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
so now their victory over State in a different week has to do with this #1 vote this week?
FUCKING VILLANOVA DIDNT GET ANY #1 VOTES
DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT COLLEGE BASKETBALL] 3/6/2006 2:14:17 PM |
SandSanta All American 22435 Posts user info edit post |
Ok
I don't even know how to begin to make fun of you stupid your statement is. 3/6/2006 2:15:12 PM |
sober46an3 All American 47925 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "and by "playing field" i implied RANKINGS" |
until we start playing basketball on rankings, then there is no reason to imply that.3/6/2006 2:15:22 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
I don't even know how to begin to make fun of you stupid your statement is. 3/6/2006 2:17:05 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
nobody is talking about the state carolina games this year...we're talking about today's ESPN coaches poll...i can imply whatever i want about rankings...just cause you're a smart guy doesnt mean you're always right 3/6/2006 2:17:12 PM |
JWHWolf All American 3320 Posts user info edit post |
It's seriously too bad that Maugan can't pwnt trolls off this board for good. 3/6/2006 2:17:27 PM |
SandSanta All American 22435 Posts user info edit post |
Like there's really no point to even arguing this.
In fact, I don't really even care what UNC is ranked.
The day we blow them out and then go beat Duke, at Duke, on senior night, after a loss, and then make sure we wipe the floor with everyone in between.
And not get some sort of poll love
Is the day I might honestly care. 3/6/2006 2:18:17 PM |
sober46an3 All American 47925 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i can imply whatever i want about rankings" |
technically you can say whatever you want...that doesnt mean people are not going to think its stupid.3/6/2006 2:18:25 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
this thread is about today's poll
not the unc state game from a different week
please stay on topic 3/6/2006 2:19:20 PM |
SandSanta All American 22435 Posts user info edit post |
But they're all related
You see
When you keep winning
People tend to think highly of you. 3/6/2006 2:19:59 PM |
sober46an3 All American 47925 Posts user info edit post |
i can imply whatever i want! 3/6/2006 2:20:28 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
and when you're UNC and you keep winning or not, people think even higher of you 3/6/2006 2:20:51 PM |
sober46an3 All American 47925 Posts user info edit post |
are you implying that i am unc? 3/6/2006 2:21:26 PM |
SandSanta All American 22435 Posts user info edit post |
No I'm pretty sure they didn't receive a number one vote until they started raping the fuck out of people. 3/6/2006 2:22:11 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
im trying to explain to sandsanta that unc gets a little more national love than state...not just from winning either
boy they raped duke by like 30 points, right?
hey how come they didnt rank them 5th or 4th or something if they rape so many people] 3/6/2006 2:22:38 PM |
SandSanta All American 22435 Posts user info edit post |
I'm trying explain to treetwistah the results of being mediocre contrasted with the results of being the former national champion, expected to super shitty, and then coming up second in the ACC. 3/6/2006 2:23:58 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
dude
nobody is really arguing with their 10th rank in each poll
its just that everybody has 9 teams ahead of them
yet 8 of those teams dont get a 1st place vote
its not that hard to see 3/6/2006 2:25:06 PM |
SandSanta All American 22435 Posts user info edit post |
Whatever, cry more. 3/6/2006 2:26:55 PM |
Lokken All American 13361 Posts user info edit post |
HI POT 3/6/2006 2:27:36 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
ok and i'll let you keep crying about how you're not a state fan anymore 3/6/2006 2:27:43 PM |
JWHWolf All American 3320 Posts user info edit post |
The point is that these polls are obviously infiltrated with non-college graduates who do not realize that there are at least 8 teams better than UNC right now.
Quote : | " Connecticut (30) 27-2 Villanova 24-3 Gonzaga 26-3 Memphis 27-3 George Washington 26-1 Ohio State 23-4 Texas 25-5 Illinois 25-5
North Carolina (1) 21-6 " |
Giving them a #1 vote is the equivalent of giving the gold medal to someone who finished eighth. I believe if the voters had to reveal themselves and their votes each week it would be more consistent and more HONORABLE. The #1 vote for UNC takes away credibility from the ESPN Coaches poll. Also, I lost a little bit of respect for each of the voters. I would have lost a lot of respect for the particular voter, but since they cower behind a cloak of anonymity they all get a little less respect.
And the voters are?? [quote]The USA TODAY/ESPN Board of Coaches is made up of 31 Division I head coaches. All are members of the National Association of Basketball Coaches. The 2003-04 board: Dana Altman, Creighton; Tevester Anderson, Jackson State; Eddie Biedenbach, North Carolina-Asheville; Jim Boeheim, Syracuse; Barry Collier, Nebraska; Charlie Coles, Miami (OH); Dick Davey, Santa Clara; Fran Dunphy, Pennsylvania; Mick Durham, Montana State; Rob Evans, Arizona State; Steve Fisher, San Diego State; Pat Flannery, Bucknell; Greg Graham, Boise State; Tom Green, Fairleigh Dickinson; David Henderson, Delaware; Bob Huggins, Cincinnati; Gene Keady, Purdue; Johnny Jones, North Texas; Eddie McCarter, Texas-Arlington; Bob McKillop, Davidson; Phil Martelli, Saint Joseph's; Joe Mihalich, Niagara; Ronald "Fang" Mitchell, Coppin State; Dave Odom, South Carolina; Rick Samuels, Eastern Illinois; Kirk Speraw, Central Florida; Bob Thomason, Pacific; Perry Watson, Detroit Mercy; Gary Williams, Maryland; Dennis Wolff, Boston University; Rich Zvosec, Missouri-Kansas City.
[Edited on March 6, 2006 at 2:30 PM. Reason : ]3/6/2006 2:27:53 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
I GUARANTEE it was Gary Williams.
This isn't a guess. He said to the paper he would never vote UConn #1 after Boone and Gay didn't stay home..
[Edited on March 6, 2006 at 2:31 PM. Reason : f] 3/6/2006 2:28:25 PM |
erudite All American 3194 Posts user info edit post |
The ballot was filled out with crayon - Stuart Scott strikes again 3/6/2006 2:29:36 PM |
sober46an3 All American 47925 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ you actually think GW is better then UNC right now?
[Edited on March 6, 2006 at 2:30 PM. Reason : d] 3/6/2006 2:29:52 PM |
SandSanta All American 22435 Posts user info edit post |
I already stated I didn't care about State's athletics at this point.
You guys are getting worked up about this shit and making threads to support you theoryball. 3/6/2006 2:30:00 PM |
JWHWolf All American 3320 Posts user info edit post |
^^Did GW lose to UVA??? 3/6/2006 2:31:16 PM |
Lokken All American 13361 Posts user info edit post |
dude
UNC would roll GW up worse than we did
GW is complete fluff 3/6/2006 2:32:34 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
complete fluff
with the best record in the country 3/6/2006 2:32:53 PM |
Weeeees All American 23730 Posts user info edit post |
just look at the teams they have played though 3/6/2006 2:33:19 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
they've still beaten everybody they faced except us 3/6/2006 2:34:03 PM |