herb does here.

i want links and shit

3/19/2006 12:35:47 PM

fuck you

3/19/2006 12:38:07 PM

Ron Zook

3/19/2006 12:38:29 PM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/315022.stm

3/19/2006 12:39:06 PM

AHA

3/19/2006 12:39:27 PM

ehe, nice

3/19/2006 12:41:03 PM

http://www.fireronzook.com/

3/19/2006 12:46:16 PM

Mike Davis

3/19/2006 12:50:06 PM

ron zook and mike davis were acceptable answers

add matt doherty

3/19/2006 12:52:36 PM

For a short list

Dean Smith
Mike Kryzewski
Mike Davis
Tyrone Willingham (eh, may not fit. Underacheived, but was given no time)
Ron Zook
Matt Doherty
Bill Gutheridge
Steve Lavin
Tubby Smith (And he won a national championship!)
Dave Odom (rightfully, though...although he's one of the better WF coaches)
Frank Solich



[Edited on March 19, 2006 at 12:56 PM. Reason : ]

3/19/2006 12:54:04 PM

take willingham off that

he was fired somewhat out of the blue, the student/alumni were absolutely nowhere near the level of abuse in herb's case

i think willingham is an example of what herb-haters want ncst to be like...there was no acceptance of mediocrity, time is not an issue if you believe progress will be minimal...i think they are different situations though

[Edited on March 19, 2006 at 12:56 PM. Reason : s]

3/19/2006 12:54:51 PM

Well, I've always said basketball and football are different beasts. Football takes a lot more time to win big at traditionally, becuase it requires far more players to be a solid team.


Willingham had some success and was recruiting much better, but they fired him after a unjustly short stay becuase they thought they had Meyer in the bag. He took a lot of heat, though

3/19/2006 12:57:56 PM

up till this year mack brown

3/19/2006 12:57:59 PM

^ Good call.

Him too


Didn't Duke fans try to fire Vic Bubas early in his career?

[Edited on March 19, 2006 at 12:59 PM. Reason : ]

3/19/2006 12:58:25 PM

not to beat a dead horse in willingham but the recruiting was really bad and then poof immediately was back near the top the year after he was removed

3/19/2006 1:03:00 PM

I don't think Willingham underachieved. He took a declining program to 10 wins in his first season, and he recuited all the talent they have now. If they had given him more time to work with the program, he might have brought them a 9th title before the end of his career.

3/19/2006 1:04:47 PM

His first year 11/21 players were 4 stars or better?

Granted, in Notre Dame terms that isn't exceptional, but he was left with no one. I think Willingham could have done pretty well if Quinn would have been matured

[Edited on March 19, 2006 at 1:06 PM. Reason : ]

3/19/2006 1:05:25 PM

Quote :

"up till this year mack brown"

add "up till this year bill cowher" as well


that's the thing about all this shit, fans want to run the coach off before he has a chance to do something great for them. and before you say "10 years is plenty of time, any coach should be fired from anywhere if they can't win a the ncaa tournament in that amount of time", you should check how long cowher was head coach before they won.

3/19/2006 1:08:47 PM

yeah but cowher is the man.

3/19/2006 1:11:19 PM

herb is the man

3/19/2006 1:11:49 PM

you guys really don't get it?

it's not just that he hasn't won a championship. its the symptoms, things he has not addressed, that have lingered for ten years and kept us from winning the big games. he hasn't improved in so many areas, what makes us think he will if he's had ten years already to do so?

3/19/2006 2:32:11 PM

Bob Davie.... when we went up there for the UT game most of the ND fans were hoping we would win because it would help to get Davie out of there

3/19/2006 2:36:13 PM

Moral of the thread: We're all young and can mostly only name recent happenings...and the ones that get press are only at the major schools. I personally only know alot about the ACC, but it happens all over the country: Pro, college, everywhere.


It's not just that NC State fans are crazy. This would be stupid after 2 years or so... but it's been 10. Regardless if you like Herb or not, don't think we're terrible fans becuase we're calling for more success after a decade of him at the helm. Many many other schools have done much much worse

3/19/2006 2:39:41 PM

Ben Braun

3/19/2006 2:40:38 PM

^^thank you.

man at the acc tournament, when we were gettin whooped by wake forest, people were so pissed. we'd seen it all before. it was ridiculous and the fans just couldn't take it. screamin, cussin, it was terrible. we stayed, but some people left, and i don't blame them at all. it was hell to watch, and even worse to be there and witness the debacle in person. and some unc fan behind me said "look at all these fairweathers."

i almost lost it. i couldn't believe it. it took a year for them to stop filling the dean dome with doh, and kenan's hardly ever more than half full. yet we've put up with this crap for ten full years and when we just can't bear to watch anymore, we're the fairweather fans?

gah! please stfu a/b us being crappy fans. our administration and herb himself should feel honored to have the fanbase they have.



[Edited on March 19, 2006 at 2:47 PM. Reason : ]

3/19/2006 2:46:32 PM

phil fulmer

3/19/2006 3:03:20 PM

Bump

3/21/2006 9:06:06 PM

Quinn Snyder.

But he deserves it. He does crack.

3/21/2006 9:06:36 PM

aha

steve alford is not treated like shit

3/21/2006 9:07:06 PM

You're right. Local bars just have drink specials thanking the Indiana Hoosiers for possibly luring him away

3/21/2006 9:08:37 PM

i don't think they're very happy about it, you retard

3/21/2006 9:11:30 PM

"Wear Red and White or your favorite Indiana apparel in appreciation of the Indiana Hoosiers!"


Yah, I'm a retard. Nice one

3/21/2006 9:13:05 PM

DOH was fired from UNC, and Roy took his recruits to the national championship only two years later.

3/21/2006 9:14:01 PM

god you are fucking stupid

its called sarcasm

as in, "thanks alot indiana, you fucking dicks!"

you see the list of possible replacements at the bottom

that pretty much says it all

3/21/2006 9:14:42 PM

just because other coaches get slammed by their fans, doesn't mean that justifies why we do it.

3/21/2006 9:15:58 PM

Aha.

Guess I missed that.

You win

3/21/2006 9:21:14 PM

yessth.

3/21/2006 9:22:22 PM

the black & gold's mixed beer should have given it away

3/21/2006 10:18:56 PM

^ And the fact that it's April Fools


Or the band is "Thud!"

3/21/2006 10:20:57 PM

haha.... i bet "Indiana Golden Boys" is some kinda queer beer or something similar.

3/21/2006 10:27:53 PM

Tubby Smith gets it a lot worse.

3/21/2006 10:39:44 PM

michigan's defenseive coordinator jim hermann

3/22/2006 12:35:46 AM

PAUL MAURICE

3/22/2006 12:40:39 AM

tubby should get it a lot worse

he has way more talent going into the most successful program of all time and produces garbage every year

id be furious if i were a kentucky fan

3/22/2006 12:43:25 AM

^The problem with Tubby is that the fact that he didn't recruit the talent Kentucky had in the 90's with Pitino. Now he finally recruits some all-americans (rondo, morris, crawford, bradley) and he can't seem to coach them up to their potential like a Coach K or Roy Williams.

3/22/2006 8:17:36 AM

they're kinda past the point of firing him now

which is kind of funny

#1 seeds and SEC championships still wont help him win another crown

yeah, i'd be pissed

3/22/2006 10:35:52 PM