USA vs. Germany tomorrow on ESPN2 at 2:30

Even though our world cup starting 11 wont probably be there due to other leagues, this will probably give us a good prediction on what world cup 2006 is going to be like considering germany is a very respectable club.

3/21/2006 8:55:51 PM

everyone will be there, thats why theyre playing it in germany (europe). all the regulars will be starting and playing most of the match except for donovan...he got hurt and is out 3-4 weeks with a calf injury. check http://www.ussoccer.com for details about the lineup...

3/21/2006 9:06:13 PM

http://www.ussoccer.com/articles/viewArticle.jsp_280832.html

hedjuk is also out with an injury

3/21/2006 9:07:46 PM

good, im glad most of our guys will be there then

isnt reyna just coming off of an injury also?

3/21/2006 9:12:35 PM

yeah but i dont think hes playing yet, i havent seen that anywhere atleast

3/21/2006 9:13:54 PM

You sure?? I was under the impression the Prem players weren't going to make the trip. With the FA Cup and a full compliment of Prem games this weekend I didn't think McBride, Friedel, etc were going to be with the team...

I completely forgot that Convey plays for Reading now. They can clinch promotion up to the top flight with a win this weekend...

[Edited on March 21, 2006 at 9:21 PM. Reason : f]

3/21/2006 9:16:08 PM

do you know if that bitch Jens Jeremies is on Germany's roster this year.


i think i remember him being the douche bag that the USA hates. cant remember the reason

3/21/2006 9:16:17 PM

In their last games, Germany lost in Italy 4-1 and USA won against Poland 1-0.

Needless to say, the German coach is in hot water and needs a win.

3/21/2006 9:24:09 PM

yeah i saw that game, germany sucked a big one

3/21/2006 9:25:46 PM

GERMAN NATIONAL TEAM ROSTER vs. UNITED STATES
Goalkeepers: Oliver Kahn (Bayern Munich/Germany), Jens Lehmann (Arsenal/England), Timo Hildebrand (VfB Stuttgart/Germany).
Defenders: Arne Friedrich (Hertha Berlin/Germany), Robert Huth (Chelsea/England), Marcell Jansen (Bor. M'gladbach/Germany), Philipp Lahm (Bayern Munich/Germany), Per Mertesacker (Hannover 96/Germany), Patrick Owomoyela (Werder Bremen/Germany), Christoph Metzelder (Borussia Dortmund/Germany), Manuel Friedrich (Mainz/Germany).
Midfielders: Sebastian Kehl (Borussia Dortmund/Germany), Michael Ballack (Bayern Munich/Germany), Sebastian Deisler (Bayern Munich/Germany), Bastian Schweinsteiger (Bayern Munich/Germany), Tim Borowski (Werder Bremen/Germany), Torsten Frings (Werder Bremen/Germany), Fabian Ernst (Schalke 04/Germany), Bernd Schneider (Bayer Leverkusen/Germany).
Forwards: Gerald Asamoah (Schalke 04/Germany), Mike Hanke (Wolfsburg/Germany), Miroslav Klose (Werder Bremen/Germany), Lukas Podolski (Cologne/Germany).



US team:

ROSTER BY POSITION
Goalkeepers (2) ? Marcus Hahnemann (Reading FC), Kasey Keller (Borussia Moenchengladbach)
Defenders (7) ? Gregg Berhalter (Energie Cottbus), Steve Cherundolo (Hannover 96), Jimmy Conrad (Kansas City Wizards), Cory Gibbs (ADO Den Haag), Frankie Hejduk (Columbus Crew), Heath Pearce (FC Nordsjælland), Eddie Pope (Real Salt Lake)
Midfielders (6) ? Bobby Convey (Reading FC), Landon Donovan (Los Angeles Galaxy), Chris Klein (Real Salt Lake), Pablo Mastroeni (Colorado Rapids), Ben Olsen (D.C. United), Kerry Zavagnin (Kansas City Wizards)
Forwards (4) ? Brian Ching (Houston Dynamo), Eddie Johnson (Kansas City Wizards), Taylor Twellman (New England Revolution), Josh Wolff (Kansas City Wizards)

The US team will be without the services of Carlos Bocanegra, Brian McBride, Claudio Reyna, Oguchi Onyewu, Jonathan Spector, Landon Donovan, Clint Dempsey (omitted for fighting with a teammate in club competition), eddie lewis, and damarcus Beasley

found all this on a man utd board

3/21/2006 9:29:33 PM

Quote :

"The US team will be without the services of Carlos Bocanegra, Brian McBride, Claudio Reyna, Oguchi Onyewu, Jonathan Spector, Landon Donovan, Clint Dempsey (omitted for fighting with a teammate in club competition), eddie lewis, and damarcus Beasley"

brian mcbride, claudio reyna, and landon donovan are probably 3 of our most strongest players and they're not starting. should be interesting to see who steps up.

3/21/2006 10:15:45 PM

BTW, Friedel retired from international competition. The US goal depth chart is as follows:

Kasey Keller
Kevin Hartman/Tim Howard (needs playing time)
Marcus Hahnemann

^ Beasley and Gooch are just as if not more important than Donovan and McBride.

3/21/2006 11:06:57 PM

What's the chance of the US pulling it out today?

3/22/2006 8:33:29 AM

I'd say the chances are pretty strong. Germany's team is SUPER weak.

3/22/2006 9:00:42 AM

But it seems like our top guys are out?

3/22/2006 9:02:27 AM

^^^^ I knew that. I wasn't thinking. I meant Howard considering he isn't getting much run with ManU..

I'm surprised Convey was allowed to go but I suppose Reading has no real worries considering they are going to be promoted regardless..

[Edited on March 22, 2006 at 9:05 AM. Reason : what club does Onweyu play for?]

3/22/2006 9:04:25 AM

Howard doesn't get any burn with ManU because he's garbage....



I honestly wouldn't feel safe with him in goal at all if I were a USA fan

3/22/2006 9:06:38 AM

Gooch plays for Standard Liege in the Belgian First Division. He's there on a team option tacked to the end of a loan from FC Metz in Ligue 1 in France.

^ As for Howard, I think he's an outstanding goalkeeper when he's on, and shaky at best when he's not. You can't ignore the fact that he won Premiership goalkeeper of the year. After the debacle at Porto in the CL, he really got the shaft from Sir Alex. Say what you want about him, but he never dropped a kick from midfield over the line like a certain Manc 'keeper whose names ends with -oy -arroll.

3/22/2006 9:32:59 AM

I'm not saying Roy Carroll was the end all and be all, I'm just saying that every game I've seen out of Howard since he got benched, he's proven again and again that he's not first team material anymore. I could understand if he didn't get any playing time at all, but he plays with the reserves almost every game. It's like he gets out on the first team stage and shits his pants because he's constantly doing DUMB things.

3/22/2006 9:48:56 AM

4 hours away!

im so pumped and have been looking forward to this game for over a month. should be exciting

3/22/2006 9:56:13 AM

^^ yeah but ManU really fucked him over by getting him to sign a deal and then going out and getting Van der Sar... I mean, he could've gone somewhere else in the epl or anywhere else to get some playing time and get better

3/22/2006 10:12:12 AM

doesnt howard have tourettes?

3/22/2006 12:21:28 PM

he does, but I don't think it affects his playing ability


I think the fact that he sucks affects his playing ability



and aimorris he used to be the starter, he's been with the devils since 2003. He's just shitty, that's why he got benched. They just picked up VDS this past offseason.

[Edited on March 22, 2006 at 12:29 PM. Reason : .]

3/22/2006 12:29:01 PM

so is it worth $5 to bet on the US, pays out $22.50

3/22/2006 12:36:39 PM

YES

3/22/2006 12:44:46 PM

sorry -- i am new to this soccer thing. i'm tryin to learn more about the team so when i go see them play in Cary i'll know what's going on.

3/22/2006 12:50:33 PM

well in FIFA rankings we're up to 5th in the world but we have to back it up in Germany. im so pissed I did not get a ticket to the jamaica game so if anyone has an extra let me know

3/22/2006 12:58:39 PM

yeah I knew he was the starter, but he signed an extension I think like a month before they got Van der Sar... I read an article that he was pretty upset about that because he probably would've gone somewhere else

3/22/2006 2:26:41 PM

jesus, germany is coming out hard. their attack is relentless. we've had 2 good opportunities, but germany looks much more aggressive than we do.

3/22/2006 2:50:22 PM

yeah our d looked pretty sloppy in that first 10 minutes

3/22/2006 3:02:22 PM

ah hahahah nice dive ballack, that'll earn you a yellow in the WC

3/22/2006 3:12:46 PM

Aww, Kahn doesn't look as wookie-ish as he did a few years back.

3/22/2006 3:12:59 PM

score?

3/22/2006 3:22:59 PM

0-0 at half

germany is diving like crazy and with that said, ballack would fit in perfectly at chelsea

3/22/2006 3:27:00 PM

Quote :

"yeah I knew he was the starter, but he signed an extension I think like a month before they got Van der Sar... I read an article that he was pretty upset about that because he probably would've gone somewhere else"

Once Sir Alex signed VDS I didn't pay much attention to the Devils' net, but I can't believe that Howard actually thought he had a chance at being the starter again.

If you didn't know, the beginning of the end was during the CL in 2004. Howard dropped an easily controllable cross in a match against Porto that led to a goal, and the elimination of United from the CL. At that point, Roy Carroll started to get into the first team more often, and eventually he took over the starting job. The real indicator for Howard's status was a game against Tottenham, where Carroll dropped the winning lob over the goal line, and because the shot was from the half line, the linesman didn't see it go over. Even then, Howard didn't get a majority of the starts.

I think if he can get a transfer to a Nationwide club and help them go on a promotion run, etc., as a number one, he can get his confidence and top flight form back. As it stands, I have more faith in Hartman and Hahnemann, though it was quite obvious in the US/Madrid match that Hartman doesn't quite have the hands to deal with world class shots.

3/22/2006 3:34:18 PM

^ who do you pull for in England??

Or do you not really care...

[Edited on March 22, 2006 at 3:37 PM. Reason : ff]

3/22/2006 3:37:41 PM

Saw that coming a mile away.

1-0 Krauts

Also, what's with shirt numbers being on the corner of the chest now? All the Adidas teams and the English as well.

^ Northampton Town

[Edited on March 22, 2006 at 3:40 PM. Reason : f]

3/22/2006 3:39:18 PM

Chris. Klein. SUCKS.

Kahn just rob-rob-ROBBED Eddie Johnson.

[Edited on March 22, 2006 at 3:59 PM. Reason : d]

3/22/2006 3:45:46 PM

2-0 Germany. ....

Make that 3-0 Germany.

3/22/2006 4:07:32 PM

FUCK FUCK FUCK.

I miss Gooch even more than I thought I would.

3/22/2006 4:08:30 PM

hahaha us soccer

3/22/2006 4:08:32 PM

Four.

Christ.

Four.

Get lazy fucking Jimmy Conrad OFF THE FIELD.

[Edited on March 22, 2006 at 4:12 PM. Reason : d]

3/22/2006 4:11:34 PM

wow this is 100% HORRENDOUS soccer....


4-0

3/22/2006 4:11:42 PM

Way to fall apart US..

3/22/2006 4:11:55 PM

Might as well quit, no one cares enough to go over an open loose ball in the corner.

Goddamn Kahn and his momentum-saving hand.

3/22/2006 4:13:13 PM

Road to Germany humiliation

3/22/2006 4:13:54 PM

we're not going to be humiliated
on the other hand there are a handfull of teams who have the potential to be humiliated to the point where they might not wanna go back to their home country

3/22/2006 4:17:30 PM

4-1

3/22/2006 4:17:40 PM

Johnson doesn't even look like he got hit...

At least we got a goal..

3/22/2006 4:18:28 PM

I pull away from updating the messageboard for 20 minutes and we go from everyone pleased to everyone pissed off. (not this one)

I guess it's up to me to be Captain Obvious:

Italy 4, Germany 1 (a little more than a month ago)
Germany 4, United States 1

Italy v. USA - group stage



[Edited on March 22, 2006 at 4:21 PM. Reason : .]

3/22/2006 4:18:40 PM