They are the three profs teaching fluids next semester

any advice on which one I should pick? I was in Ma's section for a while this semester but I dropped it, she seemed alright except the test was kind of weird

3/23/2006 8:17:09 PM

gould all the way for 308

3/23/2006 8:17:39 PM

ma's tests are not weird. she tells you exactly what is going to be on it.

3/23/2006 8:20:12 PM

gould is probably one of the best teachers ive had yet, real good notes and straight forward tests

3/23/2006 8:22:49 PM

leach sucked

3/23/2006 8:30:33 PM

OH MY FRICKIN GOULD

3/23/2006 8:33:35 PM

i've only had gould... he was pretty good for fluids... very straight-foreward

3/23/2006 8:36:24 PM

forward

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3/23/2006 8:42:46 PM

the problem with gould is that his section is at 8:30

it might be worth it though if he's good

Ma's first test had some weird geometry that I couldn't figure out

3/23/2006 8:51:27 PM

gould's classes are early due to his position in the department and needing the rest of the day for his work. i think it is def worth it to take gould. u learn a lot and he explains it really well in a clear way. but to let u know, gould likes to use his own notes and u have to print them out from electronic files. i mean u dont have to but that's all he uses.

3/23/2006 8:56:01 PM

when i had ma she didnt even come to class after spring break and she was completely inaccessible after class, have things changed?

3/23/2006 9:06:18 PM

also, does anybody know if the honors section of ECE 331 is a lot harder than the regular section?

the honors one fits nicely in my schedule but I don't want to work hard in that class. I have Walsh, who has way better reviews than Osburn or Baliga

and should I take ENG 331 online or IRL?

3/23/2006 10:49:03 PM

ece 331 is hard as fuck or im just retarded

3/23/2006 10:55:30 PM

i took ece331h with osburn a couple years ago. it was hardly any extra work...just a couple times we had to go burn up some op amps or something.

not to say that it was easy, though...the quizzes sucked

i was disappointed, though..it wasn't just a small honors section, though...it was a section of 50 or so, with only a few taking it for honors

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3/23/2006 11:00:27 PM

i'm in ma right now. the class is freaking easy! i made A's on all my exams so far. all you have to do is come to class and copy notes. you don't even have to buy the book. there's the past exams online, and she goes over them in class before every exam. the exams are just like the past exams except changed around a little (variables and numbers). just remember how to do them step by step and it's an A. and don't miss class because she practically gives out answers to the exams.

3/24/2006 1:17:31 AM

^so your taking a memorization class instead of an engineering one right?


cause that will really help you in the long run if the time comes that you need to be able to do that stuff.


I would go with gould. Came outta there with like an A- or a B+. Tests are very straight forward, if you can do the HW, you should be able to do the tests. He types his own notes, posts them on his website, and goes over them in class. And he makes his own homework problems. The only thing you use the book for is conversions and a few tables.

3/24/2006 8:04:45 AM

more like memorization of steps and techiques. but i had to know the formulas by hand and what each variables mean because that was also asked on the exam. i barely remember what was asked of the last exam, but i still remember how to do it though.

3/24/2006 11:55:19 AM

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"so your taking a memorization class instead of an engineering one right?"

yeah, i feel like i didnt really learn that much from ma, but it actually applied in 412 so it wasn't all that bad. but when i took ma for 308, it was either her or kleinstreuer! Also, ma was my only choice for 310. but i didnt really mind cuz it was a pretty easy A.

3/24/2006 12:37:59 PM

so its like hong for diff eq?

3/24/2006 1:32:35 PM

^ haha, yeah, but that class was great

3/24/2006 2:25:15 PM

yeah... till you get to fluids or vibrations or ece331 and realize you dont actually know anything about diff eq

3/24/2006 3:53:12 PM

^ actually i remembered some stuff from hong's class that we used in mae 435

3/24/2006 6:52:54 PM

what was bad about leach for 308?

i'm trying to figure out who to take as well. i need to get a minimum B- in the class.

i saw on the course catalog that fortran is a prereq for fluids. i took fortran a while ago, don't have the book and don't really remember too much of the class. i still have my labs saved on my unity acct. how much of a role does fortran play in the course?

also i have to take thermodynamics I (MAE 301)

any professor recommendations or comments for that class? zeng, boles, and lyons are the ones teaching next semester. as of now i'm going to enroll in lyons class.

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3/26/2006 12:38:03 PM

u need ZERO fortran for fluids. no one has any idea why that is listed but u dont do anythin with fortran. so i wouldnt worry about the fact u took it so long ago, etc.

i had lyons for 301 and did pretty well in the class. i learned a lot from the class but granted a lot was on my own. he is a really nice guy but can be a bit boring in class. boles will make u work and will make u learn it which is really important cause 302 will kill u if u dont have a strong 301 foundation.

3/26/2006 12:42:33 PM

^^you shouldn't think you'd have to use any fortran for fluids. i had kleinstreuer (miserable, yes, but i did learn the stuff), and if he didn't do anything with it, i doubt any other prof would.

as to 301, first let me say it's not that bad once you are comfortable reading the steam tables. i took lyons and found him to be pretty worthless as an instructor. he just rambled on and on without saying much useful, but his tests were fairly easy. i wish i could've taken boles...i understand he's a little harder, but i think i'd've been able to learn something in the lectures as opposed to teaching myself.

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3/26/2006 12:46:54 PM

well i'm trying to transfer to CE and i don't think thermo 2 is a requirement for civil.

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"i learned a lot from the class but granted a lot was on my own."

could you elaborate on this? this might be a factor for me since i learn a lot better in class than from a book.

3/26/2006 12:48:58 PM

you teach yourself thermo no matter who you take. its all about reading the book and doing/understanding the homeworks

i had leach for 308 and he sucked. really, really nice guy, but not a good teacher. bad lecturer. all the notes were his own that he had already written up and he just read them on the overhead thing. his tests were always pretty straight forward, but they were too long and no one really ever finished them in time.

3/26/2006 1:21:25 PM

if ur gonna transfer to CE, then u wont need 302.

lyons taught the material but it wasnt enough to get a full understanding of it to do the hw or a test for example. i had to go back and do a lot of learning on my own time to get the hw's done. but once i understood the hw i had no probs with the tests because the tests were representative of the hw's.

3/26/2006 1:23:02 PM

I had Boles for 301. He's very helpful outside class, and I thought the tests were straightforward and a good representation of the material. I don't think he was that hard. The homework was a bitch though, it was usually long and difficult.

3/26/2006 4:21:17 PM

i had boles for 301. he was great, i recommend him. good instructor. tests were fair. tests were like the homework.

i had leach for 302. he was not so good. slit your wrists boring. not a good instructor. his tests were pretty good. but he gave me an A+ when i earned an A so he must be pretty generous.

3/26/2006 4:55:47 PM