http://www.innovations-report.de/html/berichte/geowissenschaften/bericht-57103.html

That's what these scientist are saying will happen in 100 years if current green house gas emissions continue. Their study seems contrary to other studies where the sea level will only rise a few inches this century, but they are saying it could rise as much as 20ft which will make Florida look like this:

3/24/2006 11:57:51 PM

roflorida

3/25/2006 12:00:10 AM

3/25/2006 12:06:47 AM

LakeOcean Park

[Edited on March 25, 2006 at 12:19 AM. Reason : What's gonna happen to Ray Nagin's chocolate city?]

3/25/2006 12:18:10 AM

You know how Cocoa Pebbles turns the milk brown?

[Edited on March 25, 2006 at 12:28 AM. Reason : That only works if the city is ACTUALLY made out of chocolate, though ]

3/25/2006 12:26:09 AM

Global warming is a myth.

Don't listen to the liberal media... hell, don't even listen to a single liberal medium...

3/25/2006 12:43:32 AM

How many of those parts of Fla. are currently inhabitable anyway? Or, rather, which parts of them were uninhabited wetlands until we filled them like a bunch of geniuses?

I know there are some cities in there, but my guess is that the map is misleading.

3/25/2006 12:46:16 AM

James Hansen, NASA's head of climate studies, talks about being censored by the Bush admin. He also talks about the acceleration of global climate change (video there).

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/03/20.html#a7587

3/25/2006 1:13:38 AM

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"but they are saying it could rise as much as 20ft"

Such reports are quite common. They usually make simply blunders such as ignoring the facts and plugging in worst-case scenario numbers into their simulators.

The most common one is telling the simulator that CO2 concentration is increasing 1% a year, when the actual figure is less than 0.5% (eager scientists just love rounding up, don't you?).

The second most common error is ignoring the formation of new glaciers at high altitudes as the average annual temperature rises (increased snow fall during the winter overwealming increased melting during the summer).

A final common error is where the ice in antarctica is assumed to start melting, where-as the real result would most likely be the reverse (dramatically increased snow fall during the winter).

3/25/2006 1:19:17 AM

what about the rise of the number of protists in the gulf of mexico due to oil rigs? they can kill people on the beach over 200 miles away if the people on the beach even BREATHE THE AIR! that's somethign to worry about. this just means old people might have to get bunk beds.

3/25/2006 1:36:15 AM

geologically speaking, florida usually doesn't exist above sea level.

3/25/2006 1:45:32 AM

so lonesnark, what else are you an expert on? I see economics and now climatology.

3/25/2006 1:47:49 AM

Something will survive this, even if the worst case scenario did happen. Life will go on.

3/25/2006 1:47:54 AM

and nutsmackr swoops in for the kill.

3/25/2006 1:49:55 AM

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"What if 1/4th of Florida were gone? "

Less electoral votes, hopefully.

3/25/2006 10:25:53 AM

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"what else are you an expert on?"

Unlike economics, I am not an expert on climatology. I was merely relaying what my professor told me (he chaired a comittee on climate change, so I assumed he was an expert). He thought the higher temperatures would shift the climate, leading to large-scale extinction and economic collapse. But he went out of his way to point out the obvious mistakes that "alarmists" tend to make.

All in all, I completely disagreed with him on the whole economic collapse thing, being the expert on economics that I am.

[Edited on March 25, 2006 at 10:32 AM. Reason : .,.]

3/25/2006 10:28:32 AM

I can go to the river hill behind my house and without even digging find seashell fossils, and in this area there are many places where marl is not deep at all. It was once ocean, so it seems feasible that by natural processes it may be again. Climate never has been, and never will be static.

3/25/2006 11:14:45 AM

I'm gonna invest in some beachfront property in southern Illinois.

3/25/2006 11:58:53 AM

GO SALUKIS!

ps, just remind me to put in my will that my grandchildren are not allowed to use my estate to purchase land in florida

3/25/2006 12:19:15 PM

haha, this is stupid

3/25/2006 1:05:41 PM

"I tell you Krypton will explode within the space of 30 days..."

3/25/2006 1:16:40 PM

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"hat's what these scientist are saying will happen in 100 years if current green house gas emissions continue"

well ill be dead n gone, so fuck it

3/25/2006 1:18:16 PM

cant we just get the ice caps, and launch them into space?

3/25/2006 2:30:18 PM

just build giant levees... hell it works in denmark

3/25/2006 3:46:44 PM

It's florida, most folks there will not live another 20 years much less 100. Anyway, notice that most of the map would make "red" states blue. Wouldn't that be a good thing for all you libs out there ?

3/25/2006 4:02:30 PM

Looks like my kids won't be able to retire there. Oh well.

3/25/2006 6:03:24 PM

The ACC would contract by one team.

3/25/2006 6:04:41 PM

wtf?

3/25/2006 7:28:43 PM

What that means is "WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE AIEEEEEEEEEEEE," in a totally fatalistic sense of course.

3/25/2006 10:42:31 PM

move over Atlantis

3/25/2006 10:49:41 PM

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"just build giant levees... hell it works in denmark"

and new orleans.

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"The ACC would contract by one team."

uhhh...

miami, fsu, nc state*, unc*, duke*, and boston college would all be underwater.

3/26/2006 2:12:06 AM

Quote :

"What if 1/4th of Florida were gone?"

3/26/2006 3:43:47 AM

i live in orlando or gainesville currently. that first map dont scare me.

3/26/2006 9:32:12 AM

^^oh... i was basing it off of the whole map showing the entire eastern US, and not just the florida map. i see what you did there.

3/26/2006 12:42:59 PM

^^in fact, you'd be like 20-30 minutes closer to the gulf yo

BRING IT ON!

3/26/2006 1:58:14 PM

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"what else are you an expert on? I see economics and now climatology"

no need

economics > climatology


plz to also read

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/03/17/60minutes/main1415985_page2.shtml

3/26/2006 2:38:14 PM

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"Is it fair to say at this point that humans control the climate? Is that possible? "There's no doubt about that, says Hansen. "The natural changes, the speed of the natural changes is now dwarfed by the changes that humans are making to the atmosphere and to the surface." Those human changes, he says, are driven by burning fossil fuels that pump out greenhouse gases like CO2, carbon dioxide. Hansen says his research shows that man has just 10 years to reduce greenhouse gases before global warming reaches what he calls a tipping point and becomes unstoppable. ... We have to, in the next 10 years, get off this exponential curve and begin to decrease the rate of growth of CO2 emissions," Hansen explains. "And then flatten it out. And before we get to the middle of the century, we’ve got to be on a declining curve. "If that doesn't happen in 10 years, then I don’t think we can keep global warming under one degree Celsius and that means we’re going to, that there’s a great danger of passing some of these tipping points. If the ice sheets begin to disintegrate, what can you do about it? You can’t tie a rope around the ice sheet. You can’t build a wall around the ice sheets. It will be a situation that is out of our control." "

3/26/2006 2:42:37 PM

ha charlotte would be like 30min from the beach in that one pic. Its population would skyrocket

3/26/2006 4:56:48 PM

yes, losing that part of florida is of no consequence! all we'd lose in the red parts would be:

-one of the nation's largest fruit producing areas
-one of the nation's largest vegetable producing areas
-ports in miami, jacksonville, tampa, and st. petersburg
-the 4 previously mentioned cities
-a major area for tourism
-the spaceport that launches and maintains our communication satellites

but all thats pointless, all we're really going to lose is a bunch of old people, right?



the red portion at the bottom corresponds with some of the major fields of Immokalee, Fla, which is one of, if not the nation's largest producer of vegetables. go pick up packaged tomatos at the grocery store, im 99% sure they came from there.

[Edited on March 26, 2006 at 5:04 PM. Reason : .]

3/26/2006 5:01:59 PM

All of that is irrelevant. Florida is not going to permanently flood within the next 100 years due to man-made greenhouse gasses.

They were mocking the concept, not stating meaningfully that such a loss would be minimal.

In other words, they were being sarcastic. Get a clue.

[Edited on March 26, 2006 at 5:34 PM. Reason : .,.]

3/26/2006 5:33:32 PM

you know, like most threads, this was a legit discussion until you crapped it up as usual with your "topic over, the expert is here" talk.

3/26/2006 5:41:23 PM

thats like 1100 extra miles for the cubans to have to float

3/26/2006 6:22:31 PM

LoneSnark, stfu, seriously. Stop talking in absolutes when you know as little as anyone else in this thread.

The thread title isn't "GIVE THE PROBABILITIES OF FLORIDA BEING GONE LAWL."

3/26/2006 6:32:52 PM

it's all a huge OPEC conspiracy

they took our lands!!!

3/26/2006 6:36:09 PM

^^ Yes, you who is gonna owe me $100 in a few month's time.
You could buy your way out of the bet for $80 right now.

Assuming you are correct, and the thread originator was not interested AT ALL at what other people figured the odds to be and simply wanted to know "what if 1/4 of Florida were gone?", then "overall US GDP would decrease substantially as lives and businesses were dislocated and moved inland over a long period of time. I suspect it would average something like 0.1% GDP loss per year, small but noticeable. You could combine it with all the other broken windows of living in North America (hurricanes, floods, tornadoes, etc).

Nearly every market in this country, from labor to housing, would fluctuate and stabilize at a new equilibrium. If people are right and there is no where else in this country to grow produce, then imports of produce will increase (I suspect California might disagree).

[Edited on March 26, 2006 at 7:03 PM. Reason : .,.]

3/26/2006 7:01:06 PM

LOL, when will the idiots learn.

3/26/2006 7:10:40 PM

Quote :

"What if 1/4th of Florida were gone?"

I guess the Cubans would have a few extra miles to swim.

3/26/2006 7:36:02 PM

my old home in florida would be oceanfront based on that first map

3/26/2006 7:58:14 PM

i'd be glad if florida got eaten...

3/26/2006 9:44:34 PM

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"I guess the Cubans would have a few extra miles to swim. "

DAMN!! you beat me to it..... hey looks like home (lk norman) will be about ocean front, sweet....

3/26/2006 10:56:07 PM