http://encarta.msn.com/encnet/departments/college/?article=Best_Values_2006>1=7968

Even though we continually fight tuition increases, it is nice to be recognized as a solid school which is still affordable.

4/3/2006 2:16:43 PM

News like this only helps them raise tuition.

4/3/2006 2:24:11 PM

certainly aint cheap if youre from out of state

4/3/2006 2:25:30 PM

^^
Not true

It just goes to show that we are getting a good deal. Stop bitching

4/3/2006 2:29:48 PM

doesn't do much good if your degree isn't worth crap (and it isn't, learned that the hard way).

4/3/2006 2:31:18 PM

^^Excuse #1 every time they go to raise tuition:

<drum roll>

1) We are already one of the cheapest universities.

[Edited on April 3, 2006 at 2:31 PM. Reason : ^^]

4/3/2006 2:31:19 PM

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"certainly aint cheap if youre from out of state"

compared to other schools it is. hell, some state schools (ohio state, penn state) are almost as expensive for in state students as ncsu is to out of state students.

besides, theres no reason to pay out-of-state tuition for more then a year or two. nc state is a very easy place to qualify for in-state tuition. hell, i got in-state while i was still living in a dorm.

[Edited on April 3, 2006 at 2:33 PM. Reason : df]

[Edited on April 3, 2006 at 2:34 PM. Reason : df]

4/3/2006 2:33:06 PM

meanwhile, i had to repeatedly meet and fight with the nc state bureaucrats to get in-state tuition

after living off-campus for 3 years

4/3/2006 2:41:21 PM

yeah, and it was a pain in the ass for me to graduate because people don't know how to turn grades in

4/3/2006 2:44:07 PM

4/3/2006 2:45:11 PM

^^^ wow. i went through a lawyer in chapel hill who specializes in getting in-state tuition at NC schools for out-of-state students.

i think i paid him $400 and he knew all the tricks. well worth the money.

[Edited on April 3, 2006 at 2:46 PM. Reason : df]

4/3/2006 2:46:10 PM

it's ancient history now, though whenever the alumni boosters call me i am sure they can still feel the venom in my voice

but hell, out of state tuition back in the mid 90s is about the cost of normal in-state tuition now

4/3/2006 2:48:33 PM

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"and he knew all the tricks"

haaaaay

4/3/2006 2:48:35 PM

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"hell, some state schools (ohio state, penn state) are almost as expensive for in state students as ncsu is to out of state students."

bingo...my best friend is from pennsylvania and it was MUCH cheaper for her to come to NC state and pay out of state tuition for one year that go to a school in pennsylvania. she then switched to in state tuition after that

4/3/2006 2:49:15 PM

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" wow. i went through a lawyer in chapel hill who specializes in getting in-state tuition at NC schools for out-of-state students. i think i paid him $400 and he knew all the tricks. well worth the money."

At your recommendation that same lawyer didn't work for one of my friends. If they can find any excuse to make you pay more, they will.

4/3/2006 2:51:53 PM

interesting. im clearly better then she is.

4/3/2006 2:54:18 PM

most professors in most universities around the country will not mind you sitting in on their lectures. that is free. actually, learning of any sort is free; the real challenge is figuring out how one can eat while they are doing so.

4/3/2006 2:54:18 PM

^
I agree learning is free ... if you live in Raleigh, you have the NCSU library for the rest of your life.

absolute, ratings like this are extermely deceptive. "Most affordable" relative to what? Other similar peer institutions who have also been raising their tuition rates? I'm not going to rehash my tuition arguments here, look back at some previous threads from 2003/2004. I'm more interested in seeing tuition TRENDS from universities. The fact tuition/fees are now 2x as expensive as they were five years ago is troubling to me. I'm concerned for my younger brother ... hopefully he won't have to pay 20,000+ a year to go to NCSU when he graduates from HS 5 years from now.

4/3/2006 3:46:20 PM

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"doesn't do much good if your degree isn't worth crap (and it isn't, learned that the hard way). "

A good carpenter never blames his tools.

4/3/2006 3:54:29 PM

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"At your recommendation that same lawyer didn't work for one of my friends. If they can find any excuse to make you pay more, they will."

That same lawyer also told me that even though I fufilled every requirement asked of me in the "in-state tuition" guidebook over 3 years ago, NC State is the biggest asshole school in NC to try to get in-state tuition from in recent years.

He also stated that it's a law that any program that has state money funded in it has to justify any decisions it makes. The one exception to that law? UNIVERSITIES. And the residency committee makes full use of that law by denying people tutiton and saying "you didn't prove you intend to live here for the rest of your life!"

Now, other than already being accepted into a nursing program in NC for the next 4 years, having a full time job for 3, and paying state taxes for 3, HOW THE HELL IS ANYONE SUPPOSED TO DO THAT? You know what they told me? I'm supposed to buy a house. Oh, ok...lemme take all that extra cash I have from paying such cheap tuition and invest it in real estate

4/3/2006 3:58:04 PM

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"That same lawyer also told me that even though I fufilled every requirement asked of me in the "in-state tuition" guidebook over 3 years ago, NC State is the biggest asshole school in NC to try to get in-state tuition from in recent years. "

things must have changed since 2000. when i went through the process, ncsu was the easiest school to get in-state tuition with.....i think ECU was the hardest.

4/5/2006 10:58:56 AM

This place also offers great values.

[Edited on April 5, 2006 at 11:17 AM. Reason : 2 for the price of 1 is a great value on zebra cakes... don't say anything about quality]

4/5/2006 11:08:36 AM

well, considering i work along side people who have graduated from MIT, Johns Hopkins, Cornell, and Carnegie Mellon, I would say the quality of an engineering degree from ncsu is pretty damn good.

4/5/2006 11:26:22 AM

i'm not saying NCSU isn't good at engineering . . . but just because you work with them doesn't mean it is as good.

Where I am co-oping now there are people from all over. I work with a guy that graduated from NC State, one from Ohio State, one from Florida, one from GT, one from The Apprentice School, one from ODU, one from West Virginia, and the list goes on. So going by your theory, NC State is pretty damn good, so those schools must all be pretty high up there too (although some are higher than NCSU)

4/5/2006 1:56:05 PM

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"A good carpenter never blames his tools."

4/5/2006 1:57:58 PM

some schools can get you a job through their name alone, ncsu isn't one of those but then again niether are most schools, alot of it is who you know.

4/5/2006 2:05:01 PM

Meh....im an international student...its still expensive shit so being listed as # 2 doesnt change anything for me!!!

4/5/2006 2:06:48 PM

Bullshit. I pay out-of-state.

4/5/2006 2:13:06 PM

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"i'm not saying NCSU isn't good at engineering . . . but just because you work with them doesn't mean it is as good. "

to my employer it does....and in the end, is that the only thing that matters? we spend just as much money recruiting students from ncsu then we do at some big name ivy league schools. if that doesnt prove that my employer considers our engineering program to prepare people just as well as the other schools, then i dont know what does.

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"So going by your theory, NC State is pretty damn good, so those schools must all be pretty high up there too"

no necessarily. maybe i should have clarified about the active recruiting aspect. anyone can apply for a job, but if a company spends money actively recruiting students from a particular school, then yes, they must think highly of the school.

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"some schools can get you a job through their name alone"

what schools are those? ive never heard of someone being an offered a job based soley on where they went to school. im not saying that doesnt happen, but i would need to see it to believe it.

4/5/2006 3:29:23 PM

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"A good carpenter never blames his tools."

this is the first thing i read that made me go woah...gg sputter

4/5/2006 3:38:02 PM

And you know why we have such low tuition?

Because people on http://students.ncsu.edu fight to keep it low while you guys all just sit around and complain about how Student Government doesn't do anything.

4/5/2006 4:03:51 PM

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http://brentroad.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=398771

j/k I probably should have put this in the lounge to begin with

4/5/2006 4:05:39 PM

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"And you know why we have such low tuition? Because people on http://students.ncsu.edu fight to keep it low while you guys all just sit around and complain about how Student Government doesn't do anything. "

proof?

4/5/2006 4:09:00 PM

yeah i don't buy that

4/5/2006 4:39:51 PM

^^
Look up Tony Caravano's attempts to fight the increases 2-3 years ago. There was a freeze one year as a result.

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"what schools are those? ive never heard of someone being an offered a job based soley on where they went to school. im not saying that doesnt happen, but i would need to see it to believe it."

I'm curios about this true. I know that USED to be true for a lot of business schools. It's partially true for graduate schools/post-baaculurate work. Does the name alone really matter for undergraduate work?

4/5/2006 5:46:05 PM

i don't know about engineering, but ncsu is a good place to work with rising scientists as those just out of their postdocs come here as a stepping stone to better schools.

4/5/2006 5:53:17 PM

^^Name matters to the extent that it helps determine where a company focuses its recruiting efforts.

4/5/2006 10:56:45 PM

<----------Engineer... kinda

4/6/2006 2:48:07 AM

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"Name matters to the extent that it helps determine where a company focuses its recruiting efforts. "

i agree with that, hell, ive even pointed that out in this thread, but thats not what he said. he said specifically, "some schools can get you a job through their name alone".

i dont buy that....but im willing to hear examples.

[Edited on April 6, 2006 at 7:57 AM. Reason : df]

4/6/2006 7:57:15 AM

bttt

8/22/2006 5:27:39 PM

WTF.

thats fucked up.

This thread was so old it couldnt be posted in. (+4 months)

Way to be a jerk about it.

8/22/2006 5:29:28 PM

yea that was definitely an ass move

8/22/2006 5:55:25 PM

My friend goes to the #1 school (New College of Florida) and he really likes it...most of his buildings are almost on the water, which sounds pretty decent for a cheap public school. Now he just have to worry about those little annoyances...hurricanes.

8/22/2006 9:17:27 PM

Well, they give me money to attend, so I agree!

8/22/2006 10:39:51 PM

you must be very proud of yourself

8/23/2006 8:39:29 AM

Half the reason I came to NCSU is because Penn State tuition for instate people is retardedly high.

I also qualified for In-state at NCSU after only a semester in which I lived in the dorms.

8/23/2006 8:46:23 AM

me too...from what i hear though, theyve changed the requirements, and its harder to get instate tuition now.

but bottom line, its expensive to go to any out-of-state school....not just state.

8/23/2006 9:20:46 AM