SipnOnSyzurp All American 8923 Posts user info edit post |
Not as big of a disappointment as I thought it would be
even though the cut with Mary J. and 50 has a beat that has been used like three times
and it's all G-Unit features
[Edited on April 19, 2006 at 9:41 PM. Reason : >0]
4/19/2006 9:34:55 PM |
PvtJoker All American 15000 Posts user info edit post |
they ain been shit since 98 4/19/2006 9:44:22 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
are there any songs that are similar to "quiet storm" cause thats like the only song i have heard by him but i really like it 4/19/2006 9:44:22 PM |
J_Hova All American 30984 Posts user info edit post |
me and my brother were just talkin bout how this CD was gonna be more than decent
though i didnt expect haters (ie anyone on tdub) to give it any props
^^ and ^ SEE
[Edited on April 19, 2006 at 9:45 PM. Reason : .] 4/19/2006 9:44:58 PM |
PvtJoker All American 15000 Posts user info edit post |
well hell i haven't heard this yet
i'm jussayin 4/19/2006 9:48:13 PM |
SipnOnSyzurp All American 8923 Posts user info edit post |
SINCE THE FEDS BOUGHT NEXTEL, I TRASHED MY PHONES
anyways
they should have left off that "Have a Party" abortion with Nate Dogg 4/19/2006 9:51:09 PM |
J_Hova All American 30984 Posts user info edit post |
AHH AHH AHH AHH IM PUFFIN ON
HAAAYYYYY 4/19/2006 9:53:30 PM |
PvtJoker All American 15000 Posts user info edit post |
INNA MIDDLE UH DA BAAARRRRNNNNN 4/19/2006 9:58:56 PM |
SipnOnSyzurp All American 8923 Posts user info edit post |
WHEN I WAS YOUNG
I BOUGHT NINJA STARS ON JAMAICA AVE 4/19/2006 10:33:42 PM |
Restricted All American 15537 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "they ain been shit since 98" |
4/19/2006 10:53:04 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
haha we all posted within a minute of each other 4/20/2006 3:42:16 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148442 Posts user info edit post |
i remember when 2pac got all drunk and called some folks out and then mobb killed him 4/20/2006 10:29:14 AM |
SipnOnSyzurp All American 8923 Posts user info edit post |
i hope they aren't trying to make people think that is their money. 4/20/2006 10:39:39 AM |
J_Hova All American 30984 Posts user info edit post |
Capital P Bandana P V.I.P. M.V.P R.S.V.P. or R.I.P. V.S.O.P. A.S.A.P. 4/20/2006 11:19:12 AM |
Restricted All American 15537 Posts user info edit post |
this shit sucks 5/2/2006 11:06:37 AM |
DROD900 All American 24658 Posts user info edit post |
they havent been shit since they cameo'd on C.N.N.'s War Report 5/2/2006 12:05:31 PM |
jackleg All American 170957 Posts user info edit post |
someone send me this PLZ 5/2/2006 12:10:09 PM |
jackleg All American 170957 Posts user info edit post |
7 minutes, i love tww 5/2/2006 12:16:48 PM |
J_Hova All American 30984 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ dumbest statement ever 5/2/2006 12:17:54 PM |
spooner All American 1860 Posts user info edit post |
i think this album's about on par with "amerika's nightmare" - it's got some good tracks, but it's pretty much just the same shit different toilet. killin mother fuckas, finger poppin' dimes, etc. my favorite track is "speaking freely", worst track by far is "creep". that might be the worst beat ever.
but it's still the mo-bb. cop it dun. 5/2/2006 8:11:48 PM |
Kay_Yow All American 6858 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Phonte of Little Brother: 6 pages in that other post and nobody's figured it out yet huh? Lemme break it down....
*sighs REAL deep*
Mobb Deep is gone. Club Mobb is what you have now. And you can either take it or leave it.
To me the last classic, dark, moody, make-me-wanna-open-fire-on-a-group-of-innocent-schoolchildren Mobb Deep single was "Quiet Storm." Hav and P were sharp as ever on the boards and on the mic respectively......and then.......
Enter Hov.
I'm sorry.....but I've never seen ANY emcee past or present be as VISIBLY affected by a dis as Prodigy was by that Summer Jam screen. All of a sudden, the same emcee who gave us countless quotables for 3 albums sounded as flustered and unfocused as ever. Hell, most of the time he wasn't even RHYMING..... Thus, we saw the beginnings of what I call "Club Mobb," a group that had had their street cred tested so many times (see: unfavorable incidents with TruLife and Keith Murray), that they figured 'fuck it.....let's take niggas to the club' and the results ranged from dope ("Burn"), to dope-once-it-grows-on-you ("Got It Twisted"), to horrid ("Hey Luv" feat. 112).
So what exactly happened?
Most people don't realize that the magic of Prodigy (and Mobb for that matter), lied in Prodigy's first bars. Literally......Prodigy has some of the most classic and memorable first bars in hip hop history, and that made for their best singles. Don't believe me?
"I got 'chu stuck off the realness....." -Shook Ones
"The saga begins.....we go to war/ I draw first blood be the first to set it off...." -Hell On Earth
"I put my lifetime in between the paper lines...." -Quiet Storm
"I break bread, r i b s, hunnid dolla bills...." -Keep It Thoro
Now as you listen to "Blood Money" try to find that bar. Dig through that album and search for that one line.....that ONE bar from Prodigy that made you and your mans rap along in unison like "I used to be in love with this bitch named E&J/ don't fuck with her no more now I fuck with Tanqueray" from "Drink Away The Pain."
You can't find it, 'cause its not there.
For better or worse depending on how you look at it, Havoc is now the best MC in Club Mobb. I take my hat off to him. Dude sounds hungrier than ever. And although P still has his moments (his verse on "Capital P, Capital H" is dope), for most of the album he's the same rambling, non-rhyming, unfocused guy that he's been for the past few years. He really sounds clinically depressed. It's sad.
So aside from its obvious artistic shortcomings, what does G-Unit have to do with people's hate for "Blood Money?"
Honestly......everything.
Like I told y'all so many times, even in regards to my OWN career.....in this game, PERCEPTION is reality.
And if people's general perception is that you cashed in 13 years of hard-earned respect for a Porsche...
AND you're rollin with the industry's hot new franchise boy (who DISSED you a year earlier, mind you)......
AND gave him total control of your album...
AND engaged in blatant cock-sniggling in interviews and on records by referring to him as Curtis Billion Dollar Budget Jackson.......
AND the only features on the record are G-Unit (no Noyd or any other QB niggas).......
Then what is the general consensus?
"Maaaaaan, them Mobb Deep niggas sold the fuck out," that's what.
Now personally, I have no problem with an artist selling out, or cashing in (however you look at it)....but I understand the ramifications of it. And the fact remains that when you sell out: 1) it damn sure better be financially worth it so that you NEVER have to sell out again, and 2) your post sell-out records better be artistically fucking BULLETPROOF. I mean, you better make the record of a lifetime or else there will be hell to pay.
And from the looks of things, Mobb may fail on both counts.
Cats are trashing the record left and right. Most die-hard Mobb fans have written them off by now. As dope as "Put 'Em In Their Place" is it ain't gon' get the 106 and TRL'ers, so those diamond numbers they were shooting for are looking more like Yayo's.
Not to place all the blame on 50, because truthfully, the songs he's featured on are among the best on the album. And I always thought "Outta Control" was dope, because it felt like a natural progression for Club Mobb.....it was the grown and sexy Club Mobb and it knocked. The same can't be said for "Give It To Me" and "Backstage Pass." They are club attempts that sound forced and honestly, are downright laughable.
I will always hold Hav and P near and dear to my heart, and they will always be viewed as hip-hop legends to me because of their first 3 albums (honorable mentions go to "H.N.I.C" and "Free Agents" tho). But I gotta call a spade a spade.
For longtime Mobb Deep fans, "Blood Money" pretty much confirmed our worst fears of what we thought a G-Unit/Mobb Deep partnership would bring forth:
Our boys done got rich and stopped trying." |
5/2/2006 9:47:52 PM |
J_Hova All American 30984 Posts user info edit post |
"The saga begins.....we go to war begin war" is the line, Mr Phonte
ill type more but i got an exam in the morning
just adds to my distain of little brother 5/3/2006 1:07:45 AM |
SipnOnSyzurp All American 8923 Posts user info edit post |
it's distdain
and it's hard to argue with anything in that commentary
prodigy done got lazy 5/3/2006 1:17:10 AM |
spooner All American 1860 Posts user info edit post |
i agree too - prodigy isn't that dope anymore. but the album isn't bad, especially when compared to most of the poop that gets released these days. i still give mob deep props for making it this long because 13 years in the game is pretty fucking impressive. only LL, de la, and handful of others have lasted as long. 5/3/2006 2:21:56 AM |
BoobsR_gr8 All American 30000 Posts user info edit post |
i am glad i didnt buy this cd
it fucking sucks 5/3/2006 2:32:27 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148442 Posts user info edit post |
did phonte say that since LB fell off also? or cause 9th worked with Jay? 5/3/2006 9:26:01 AM |
DROD900 All American 24658 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "^^^ dumbest statement ever" |
I'll kill you!!@!@
no, I actually have always liked Mobb Deep, but that was mostly because they were always a half underground/half mainstream group which lead them to have grittier lyrics (kinda like 50 Cent before he blew up). Now that they are with G Unit and getting press, I'm worried that they will sell out (like 50) and start making more pop-rap shit just to make a buck and keep 50 happy.
I like all of their albums up to this point, havent heard their new one left.
I was just trying to get some street cred by referencing the War Report, guess I didnt impress you Hova 5/3/2006 9:52:28 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148442 Posts user info edit post |
CNN WAR REPORT CHANNEL 10 BLOODSPORT 5/3/2006 9:56:49 AM |