http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20060608.wbilder0608/BNStory/National/home

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"Secretive, powerful Bilderberg group meets near Ottawa June 8, 2006 ALEXANDER PANETTA Canadian Press Ottawa — It's like Woodstock for conspiracy theorists. A serene suburban setting has been transformed into a four-day festival of black suits, black limousines, burly security guards — and suspicions of world domination. On the outskirts of the nation's capital, a tony high-rise hotel beside a golf course is hosting the annual meeting for one of the world's most secretive and powerful societies. It's not the Freemasons. Forget those fabled U.S. military men who tucked away UFOs in the Arizona desert. These guys, you've probably never even heard of, and if you believe the camera-toting followers who attend all their meetings, they control the world. They're called the Bilderberg group. They include European royalty, national leaders, political power-brokers, and heads of the world's biggest companies. Those who follow the Bilderberg group say it got Europe to adopt a common currency, got Bill Clinton elected after he agreed to support NAFTA, and is spending this week deciding what to do about high oil prices and that pesky fundamentalist president of Iran, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. “Some people say that I advocate a conspiracy theory. That's not true. I recognize a conspiracy fact,” said James P. Tucker. The 74-year-old American journalist has been following the Bilderberg group for decades, has written extensively about it, and recently published his Bilderberg Diary. He follows the group to its annual meetings and stands outside describing to other journalists details of his privileged access to their inner workings. He is not alone. Daniel Estulin snapped photographs of every vehicle that approached the concrete-and-glass complex Thursday. He says Mossad — Israel's spy agency — is paying attention. Away from the golf course, there are no grassy knolls in the industrial zone outside Ottawa's Brookstreet hotel, the site of this week's meeting, but the scene does nothing to dissuade conspiracists. Ottawa police officers are standing guard outside a dozen metal gates that serve as security checkpoints a half-kilometre from the hotel. But Ottawa's finest are clearly not in charge here. To approach the hotel property, even these uniformed police officers are required to show their credentials to the half-dozen black-suited men working for Globe Risk, a private security firm. “This is pretty unusual,” one Ottawa cop said. Another said they were hired to be there in their off-duty hours and weren't told much by their superiors: “They just told us, ‘These are important people. It's a private meeting.' ” A small crowd of curious onlookers snapped photos of black-windowed sedans stopping at the checkpoints. It was impossible to see who was sitting inside. But it's fun to imagine. The Bilderberg group is a half-century-old organization comprising about 130 of the world's wealthiest and most powerful people. The group is named after the Dutch hotel where it held its first meeting in 1954. But don't expect to find that information on the group's website. They don't have a website. Nor was there any Bilderberg logo anywhere to be seen Thursday, except for those nondescript white placards stamped with the letter ‘B' and tucked under the windshield of all those tinted sedans. A journalist calling the Brookstreet hotel asked to leave a message for the Bilderbergers. “Sure,” a hotel employee said. “Your name and number?” The journalist then asked whether the employee could confirm whether the Bilderberg Group was actually meeting there. “I don't know,” she replied. Even members of the hotel gym were barred from the premises. A sign was slapped on the gym door earlier this week informing them the facilities would be closed for four days. All other hotel guests were asked to check out by Thursday morning. Any vehicles remaining in the parking lot would be towed. Bilderberg says the privacy of its meetings helps encourage freewheeling discussion. An unsigned press release, sent by fax, confirmed this year's meeting would deal with energy issues, Iran, the Middle East, terrorism, immigration, Russia, European-American relations and Asia. “The meeting is private to encourage frank and open discussion,” said the release. “There will be no press conference.” The release included a list of participants at this year's event. The 2006 group includes David Rockefeller, Henry Kissinger, Queen Beatrix of Holland, New York Gov. George Pataki, the heads of Coca-Cola, Credit Suisse, the Royal Bank of Canada, cabinet ministers from Spain, Greece and a number of media moguls, including Globe and Mail newspaper publisher Philip Crawley. However, Bilderberg followers say that media moguls whose outlets report leaked details from the meetings will see themselves banned in the future., The group also includes a pair of prominent figures involved in planning the U.S. invasion of Iraq — Richard Perle and Ahmad Chalabi. Fellow White House power-players Donald Rumsfeld and Paul Wolfowitz, now head of the World Bank, have spoken to the group in the past. But Bilderberg is not exclusively a right-wing body, by any means. Bill Clinton's right-hand-man Vernon Jordan, was also in attendance Thursday, as was his Mideast negotiator Dennis Ross. The prime ministers of Britain and Canada — Tony Blair and Stephen Harper — have addressed the group before, as have former Liberal prime ministers Pierre Trudeau, Paul Martin and Jean Chrétien. Mr. Harper spoke to Bilderberg in Versailles, France, in 2003 but his office said he would not attend this year's conference. Canada remains well represented, however. The Canadian contingent at this year's event also includes Power Corp. boss Paul Desmarais, Indigo books CEO Heather Reisman, and former New Brunswick premier Frank McKenna. "

Years ago, people were ridiculed by the media and establishment as "conspiracy nuts" for even saying that the Bilderberg Group existed. Now the mainstream media is admitting that the Bilderberg Group really does exist, and it is indeed powerful and includes many of the world elite who meet secretly to discuss and set policy.

Yet...the mainstream media still tries to smear those who believe the group exists and that it is powerful as "conspiracy theorists"?

6/12/2006 8:45:09 AM

[old]
seriously, you're losing your edge here, this was posted about a week or two ago

6/12/2006 9:06:55 AM

AHAHAHAHAHAHAH

ITS GREAT WHEN A PARODY IS PROVEN 100% FACT

GG GUTH

AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

and he calls ME the troll

cut this guy loose

[Edited on June 12, 2006 at 9:12 AM. Reason : `]

6/12/2006 9:12:16 AM

so duke,

when guth posted this exact same thing and you locked it, was it because it was inane bullshit or what?

and pls to explain the double standard that has been OBVIOUSLY demonstrated with this thread.

6/12/2006 9:16:08 AM

obviously demonstrated

6/12/2006 9:27:56 AM

All-knowing and blessed ADL "debunks" the Bilderberg "MYTH"!

http://www.adl.org/rumors/bilderberg.asp

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"Debunking the Bilderberg Myth ADL has received inquiries about conspiracy theories regarding the Bilderberg group, a legitimate business entity with ties to Europe and America. The following information from the ADL's Civil Rights Information Center debunks a recurring myth, circulated via the Internet, that the group is part of a conspiracy to promote a "new world order" under their control. Deriving its name from the Dutch hotel where it first met in 1954, the Bilderberg group is an actual, legitimate entity whose members consist of approximately 100 influential European and American figures in politics, business and academia who meet annually to discuss and advocate political, diplomatic and economic policies. Various far-right extremists and conspiracy theorists, however, charge that the group is a shadowy force seeking to control world events, exerting allegedly dominating powers of international influence to promote a "new world order" under their control. The extremists claim that Presidential candidates of both major U.S. political parties are controlled by the Bilderberg group; among those often mentioned in such conspiracy-oriented propaganda are David Rockefeller, the Clintons and Henry Kissinger. Other Bilderberg leaders are said to be members of the Trilateral Commission and the Council on Foreign Relations -- groups which themselves are often central players in far-right conspiracy theories of secret efforts at domination of the world's political and financial institutions and the press. Such charges about the Bilderberg group were a regular feature in The Spotlight, the recently-defunct weekly tabloid of the far-right, anti-Semitic Liberty Lobby."

The ADL smeared those saying the Bilderberg group is promoting a new world order with all kind of names like "far-right extremist", "conspiracy theorist", and "anti-Semitic." NOW THAT'S WHAT I CALL A POWERFUL ARGUMENT!!

Case closed.

6/12/2006 9:52:46 AM

LOCK

LOCK

LOCK

6/12/2006 9:54:42 AM

BBC links those who think the Bilderberg Group is powerful and detrimental with terrorists...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/3773019.stm

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"Bilderberg: The ultimate conspiracy theory Thursday, 3 June, 2004 By Jonathan Duffy BBC News Online Magazine [...] In the void created by such aloofness, an extraordinary conspiracy theory has grown up around the group that alleges the fate of the world is largely decided by Bilderberg. In Yugoslavia, leading Serbs have blamed Bilderberg for triggering the war which led to the downfall of Slobodan Milosevic. The Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh, the London nail-bomber David Copeland and Osama Bin Laden are all said to have bought into the theory that Bilderberg pulls the strings with which national governments dance."

If you oppose the Bilderbergers, you're in league with Timothy McVeigh and Osama Bin Laden!

Talk about demonization.

6/12/2006 10:04:19 AM

theduke866 locked discussion on this when guth posted it

why are you special salisburyboy?

THESE ARE SOME HARD HITTING LINKS, AND YOUR COMMENTS ARE CERTAINLY PACKED WITH WISDOM AND COMMON SENSE

6/12/2006 10:05:47 AM

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"theduke866 locked discussion on this when guth posted it why are you special salisburyboy?"

I don't know, but I suspect it was because guth's thread was intended to be a parody. It was not intended for serious discussion of the issue.

6/12/2006 10:13:26 AM

i didn't realize thats what this thread was intended for

6/12/2006 10:47:03 AM

The Bilderberg Group is one of the most influential organizations on the planet, is advancing a globalist agenda, and is working to destroy national sovereignty...

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=50583

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"According to sources that have penetrated the high-security meetings in the past, the Bilderberg meetings emphasize a globalist agenda and promote the idea that the notion of national sovereignty is antiquated and regressive. "It's officially described as a private gathering," noted a BBC report in 2003, "but with a guest list including the heads of European and American corporations, political leaders and a few intellectuals, it's one of the most influential organizations on the planet.""

Destroying national sovereignty? Globalist agenda? World government and a "new world order"?

Don't tell me that those "far right anti-Semitic extremist conspiracy theorists blah blah blah" might be RIGHT after all?!

6/12/2006 10:54:11 AM

mmmmm
look at all this discussion

ITS LIKE I'M DROWNING IN DISCOURSE

6/12/2006 10:57:38 AM

is it possible to unlock threads?

because JohnGuth's thread deserves to be unlocked

6/12/2006 11:03:04 AM

i think beardawg taught us that it is not

6/12/2006 11:08:51 AM

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"To approach the hotel property, even these uniformed police officers are required to show their credentials to the half-dozen black-suited men working for Globe Risk, a private security firm. “This is pretty unusual,” one Ottawa cop said. "

In the millitary, uniformed personelle are routinely required to show credentials to enter many places. All a uniform means is that you can shop at the surplus stores. Security is more than just a badge.

6/12/2006 11:09:14 AM

Bilderberg: World government in action...

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=32606

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"World government in action May 16, 2003 © 2003 WorldNetDaily.com Do you believe in conspiracies? Do you believe there are powerful people who conspire together annually to solidify their grip on world domination? Do you believe all of this happens in secret, with the quiet complicity of the world media? Well, I've got news for you. There really are conspiracies at work. There really are powerful people plotting world domination. And they really operate in near-total secrecy as the world press sits on its collective duff. In fact, it's happening right now as you read this column. The venue is Versailles, France. Today is the last day of a two-day confab of the Bilderberg Group, an international lobby representing the interests of the power elite of Europe and America. [...] Hard to believe? It's true. The Bilderberg Group has been described as "50 people who run the world and 20 hangers-on." It's actually a slightly bigger conspiracy. In the words of another observer, it is comprised of "120 or so of the most influential men in Europe and North America." Since 1953, the Bilderberg Group has convened government, business, academic and journalistic representatives from the U.S., Canada and Europe. The locations and agendas of the conferences are closely guarded secrets."

6/12/2006 11:11:50 AM

so you're just going to blaze past a valid comment

i thought this thread was for discussion

not just

link

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"bolded title batshit batshit batshit"

6/12/2006 11:15:39 AM

what was the valid comment?

6/12/2006 11:17:11 AM

1337 b4k4's

6/12/2006 11:17:31 AM

Woodfoot "waaaaaaaaaah waaaaaaah lock it please lock it waaaaaahhh wahhhhh"

6/12/2006 11:21:30 AM

This thread has entirely more substance that the other thread.

That thread was an obvious parody

6/12/2006 11:23:10 AM

its so funny because guth normally tries to find the most outlandish shit possible to post when he makes those threads

lock

6/12/2006 11:26:36 AM

The establishment media goes out of it's way to downplay the influence of the Bilderberg group and paint Bilderberg critics as "paranoid lunatics" etc. Example...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/netnotes/article/0,,1231830,00.html

6/12/2006 11:30:58 AM

i blame teh j00z

 

6/12/2006 11:33:14 AM

what the shit is this? is this for realz?

i already made this thread.
there was trolling in my thread but only because no one followed the link to chit chat. a mod could have deleted the trolling in my thread.

my thread had more real discussion than this one

6/12/2006 11:42:41 AM

Some people believe everything they see on t.v and hear on the radio

6/12/2006 11:49:54 AM

So, the establishment media admits the Bilderberg Group exists, that it is one of the most powerful organizations in the world, that they meet in secret "discussing" and setting policy on top political issues, that they are promoting a globalist agenda, etc.

And, yet, the establishment "mainstream" media has conditioned and programmed people to think of those who criticize this group as "paranoid lunatic conspiracy theorist loons allied with bin Laden and Timothy McVeigh blah blah blah." And you mindlessly repeat their propaganda?

It's not a theory. It's REAL. It's admitted. It IS a conspiracy. They meet in secret.

What's really at the bottom of all this propaganda? Is is now "paranoid" to simply oppose the globalist agenda?

6/12/2006 11:49:59 AM

i like when the news runs the santa watch on christmas eve, where they have the radar tracking where he is and plot his progress

6/12/2006 11:58:52 AM

just so you know, i also already posted about jones getting arrested


in before the little bucket
IBTLB

6/12/2006 12:00:29 PM

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"Is is now "paranoid" to simply oppose the globalist agenda?"

actually, yes

yes it is

6/12/2006 12:04:53 PM

weeooo weeooo
here come the intention police

6/12/2006 12:12:17 PM

hahahahaha

THATS VIEWPOINT CENSORSHIP

6/12/2006 12:16:56 PM

locking my thread violated my freedom of speech

6/12/2006 12:25:40 PM

On Bilderberg protesters...

http://www.canada.com/topics/news/national/story.html?id=358df7bd-7a54-41e4-9366-df1733597c30&k=96354

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"Protesters on the sidewalk have their own version of the agenda: world domination, a merger of Canada with the United States and Mexico, hiding the cure for cancer, suppression of cars that get 200 miles per gallon of fuel, an invasion of Iran, and slavery for the common people of all countries. About a dozen protesters stood outside Sunday, slightly fewer than on Saturday. Two police officers watched from across the street while others were inside the hotel. They carried signs protesting the "NWO" (new world order) and denouncing the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks as "an inside job." "When you've got this many high rollers in one place, then there's a story," said Geoff Matthews, editor and publisher of a small newspaper called the Kingston Eye Opener. "In my opinion, what they started to plan about 10 years ago is the unification of North America without the consent of the people. It's now in fast-forward.""

A plan to merge Canada with the United States and Mexico into a North American Union? 9/11 an inside job? Talking about a "new world order"? THESE PEOPLE ARE NUTS!

6/12/2006 12:26:43 PM

i bet you really want to post a link about jones getting arrested

6/12/2006 12:29:16 PM

WOW! 12 PEOPLE! THEY'RE REALLY GETTING A LOT OF NUMBERS!!!

6/12/2006 12:35:32 PM

Right. Those people who made the trip to Ottawa are the only people who oppose the Bilderberg Group and their agenda.

6/12/2006 12:37:02 PM

i love that you are now considering what the people are protesting to be "their agenda"

perhaps they just want to get together to talk about how sweet it is being rich and powerful


i'm amazed you never get tired of posting this shit

i actually grow bored with detracting it

6/12/2006 12:40:04 PM

so money bags, how do you like your new yacht?

its nice. hey, lets think of ways to jew over people

ok

[Edited on June 12, 2006 at 12:51 PM. Reason : j]

6/12/2006 12:49:22 PM

"should we let rappers in yet?"

"are there any white rappers this rich?"

"no"

"i think you just answered your question monty"

6/12/2006 12:53:26 PM

so hey, i just bought this new hybrid

...

haha good one preston

6/12/2006 12:58:07 PM

Woodfoot and JonHGuthrie sure are sucking each others dick a lot in this thread.

6/12/2006 1:04:50 PM

you want a tug, big boy?

6/12/2006 1:09:11 PM

Powerful people are meeting and salisburyboy has no idea what they are are talking about. That it what constitutes a conspiracy. They could release a transcript of the entire meeting and he would simply call it "damage control propaganda" and ignore it, instead repeating what he wants to believe.

It reminds me of when the Vatican chose a new pope. Since it was done behind closed doors he insisted that it was a conspiracy.

Guess what! I have to go through a security checkpoint to get to my building at work. When I get to my building I have to use my security badge to open the door. Once I get to my office I have to type in a password to access my computer. Obviously I work for an evil company that is in league with the NWO!

6/12/2006 1:27:43 PM

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"Guess what! I have to go through a security checkpoint to get to my building at work. When I get to my building I have to use my security badge to open the door. Once I get to my office I have to type in a password to access my computer. Obviously I work for an evil company that is in league with the NWO!"

False analogies!

Any other fallacies of argument you want to showcase?

6/12/2006 1:35:36 PM

troll

6/12/2006 1:49:35 PM

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"THESE PEOPLE ARE NUTS! "

When you're called "Nuts" by salsiburyboy, that means you're in good shape.

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"They meet in secret. "

Oh no, a secret meeting. Church councils have secret meetings (God help us all). Anyway, Canada is America Jr, and half of Mexico is already here. What difference would it make?

6/12/2006 2:15:03 PM

dude

you're the one who [b]'d the part about OMG THE POLICE HAVE TO SHOW CREDENTIALS

so when someone offers evidence that SHOWING CREDENTIALS is not outlandish or abnormal

you can't just dismiss it

OR WAIT
I GUESS YOU CAN...

troll

[Edited on June 12, 2006 at 2:30 PM. Reason : `]

6/12/2006 2:29:49 PM

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"In the millitary, uniformed personelle are routinely required to show credentials to enter many places. All a uniform means is that you can shop at the surplus stores. Security is more than just a badge."

We're not talking about a military facility here.

Another bad analogy.

6/12/2006 2:32:50 PM