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Karl Rove Indicted
http://www.thewolfweb.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=357722

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"JoshNumbers: Links will be posted next week, when this happens. (10/14/2005)"

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"pryderi: eheheheheehhehehe...Fitzgerald is going to pull Rove out of his spider hole. (12/14/2005)"

Rove won't be charged in CIA leak case (06/13/06)
http://dwb.newsobserver.com/24hour/politics/story/3308492p-12189291c.html

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"Rove won't be charged in CIA leak case By JOHN SOLOMON, ASSOCIATED PRESS WRITER WASHINGTON (AP) - Top White House aide Karl Rove has been told by prosecutors he won't be charged with any crimes in the investigation into the leak of a CIA officer's identity, his lawyer said Tuesday, lifting a heavy burden from one of President Bush's most trusted advisers. Attorney Robert Luskin said that special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald informed him of the decision on Monday, ending months of speculation about the fate of Rove, the architect of Bush's 2004 re-election now focused on stopping Democrats from capturing the House or Senate in this November's elections. Fitzgerald has already secured a criminal indictment against Vice President Dick Cheney's former chief of staff, I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby. The announcement cheered Republicans and a White House beleaguered by war and low approval ratings. Mark Corallo, a spokesman for Rove, said the White House official "is elated" and said that "we're done." Fitzgerald met with chief U.S. District Judge Thomas Hogan before he notified Rove. Hogan has been overseeing the grand juries in the CIA leak case. Messages left with Fitzgerald's spokesman seeking comment were not immediately returned. The prosecutor called Luskin late Monday afternoon to tell him he would not be seeking charges against Rove. Rove had just gotten on a plane, so his lawyer and spokesman did not reach him until he had landed in Manchester, N.H., where he was to give a speech to state GOP officials. "In deference to the pending case, we will not make any further public statements about the subject matter of the investigation," Luskin said. "We believe the special counsel's decision should put an end to the baseless speculation about Mr. Rove's conduct." Fitzgerald has been investigating whether senior administration officials intentionally leaked the identity of CIA undercover operative Valerie Plame in retribution because her husband, former Ambassador Joseph Wilson, sharply criticized the administration's pursuit of war in Iraq. Rove testified five times before a grand jury, most recently in April. He has admitted he spoke with columnist Robert Novak and Time magazine reporter Matt Cooper in the days before they published Plame's name in July 2003. Rove, however, did not originally tell prosecutors about his conversation with Cooper, only revealing it after his lawyer discovered a White House e-mail that referred to it. Fitzgerald was investigating whether Rove lied or obstructed justice in failing to initially disclose the conversation. The presidential aide blamed a faulty memory and sought to testify before the grand jury after finding the e-mail to correct his testimony. The threat of indictment had hung over Rove, even as Rove was focusing on the arduous task of halting Bush's popularity spiral and keeping Democrats from capturing the House or Senate in November elections. Fitzgerald's investigation has been under way since the start of the 2004 election, and the decision not to indict Rove is certain to buoy Republicans, who also got good news in the last week with the military's killing of most-wanted Iraq terrorist Abu Musab al-Zarqawi. "The fact is this, I thought it was wrong when you had people like Howard Dean and (Sen.) Harry Reid presuming that he was guilty," Republican Party Chairman Ken Mehlman told Fox News Channel's "Fox and Friends" show Tuesday morning. Democrats, on the other hand, had no reason to cheer. "He doesn't belong in the White House. If the president valued America more than he valued his connection to Karl Rove, Karl Rove would have been fired a long time ago," said Dean, the Democratic Party chairman, speaking Tuesday on NBC's "Today" show. "So I think this is probably good news for the White House, but it's not very good news for America." Rove has been at Bush's side since his days as Texas governor and was the architect of Bush's two presidential election victories. Rove assumed new policy responsibilities inside the White House in 2005 as deputy chief of staff. However, as part of the shake-up brought by new White House chief of staff Joshua Bolten, Rove shed those policymaking duties earlier this year to return to full time politics. Fitzgerald's case against Libby is moving toward trial, as the two sides work through pretrial issues such as access to classified documents. Libby, 55, was charged last October with lying to the FBI and a federal grand jury about how he learned and when he subsequently told three reporters about Plame. He faces five counts of perjury, false statements and obstruction of justice. With Rove's fate now decided, other unfinished business in Fitzgerald's probe focuses on the source who provided Washington Post reporter Bob Woodward information about Plame. Woodward says his source, who he has not publicly identified, provided the information about Wilson's wife, several weeks before Novak learned of Plame's identity. The Post reporter, who never wrote a story, was interviewed by Fitzgerald late last year. --- Associated Press reporter Toni Locy contributed to this report."

 

6/13/2006 9:27:21 AM

so what? they gave up scooter libby.

and we all that now its the vice president who is guilty.

hey, by the by, is bush's ap. rating above 30% yet?

[Edited on June 13, 2006 at 9:43 AM. Reason : 52]

6/13/2006 9:42:16 AM

TGD: Ethics are going down!!!!!111

6/13/2006 9:44:55 AM

plz to format thxu

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"TGD: Ethics are going down!!1"

[Edited on June 13, 2006 at 11:08 AM. Reason : and JoshNumbers, 38% actually...]

6/13/2006 11:07:23 AM

my bad

6/13/2006 11:14:09 AM

Just in case anyone is curious, according to the most recent CBS poll run 6/10 - 6/11, the approval rating is at 33%, disapproval at 60%, and 7% unsure. The most recent poll before that was an AP-Ipsos poll that had approval at 35%, but disapproval at 63%.

[Edited on June 13, 2006 at 11:40 AM. Reason : http://www.pollingreport.com/BushJob.htm - More archived polls here]

6/13/2006 11:40:20 AM

http://poll.gallup.com/content/?ci=23305

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"2006 Jun 9-11 Approve: 38% Disapprove: 56% No Opinion: 2%"

6/13/2006 11:47:50 AM

Well it's to be expected when you remind people of the gay menace.

6/13/2006 12:18:47 PM

Wow....if only he could reach the level that rapist's approval ratings, clinton

but yea, im sure its good news that dick cheney did it, not karl rove. nobody can think less of him.

6/13/2006 1:43:49 PM

haha...come on josh#'s..."it doesnt matter anyway...cheney is guilty soo... and we got libby sooo"

just admit it when your wrong....

6/13/2006 5:12:38 PM

Would this be a good time to dig through the forums and find where TGD promised us Bush's approval rating wouldn't drop below 38%?

6/13/2006 5:15:10 PM

sure...thats not what the thread is about though...they were wrong about rove...thats what the threads about..

6/13/2006 5:17:16 PM

^^
no need, I'll admit I was flat wrong on that one. didn't realize immigration would take such a toll on his support among conservatives. so for that, you guys win. gg.

now back to the point of this thread...

6/13/2006 5:23:23 PM

LOL BUSHES NUMBRES ARE FROM IRAAQ WAR DUH ROFL!1

6/13/2006 6:57:54 PM

6/14/2006 3:44:03 AM

come on pryderi....dont be bitter

6/14/2006 7:53:02 AM

pryderi probably has the biggest stomach ulcer on the planet

6/14/2006 7:56:30 AM

^Not really. I've actually been feeling better since working on a few local campaigns and cavassing. I'll be organizing a GOTV effor in the fall.



As far as Rove's concerned, it just saves Bush from pardoning him.

[Edited on June 14, 2006 at 10:40 PM. Reason : pardon]

6/14/2006 10:39:43 PM

why the hell would anyone draw/post a picture like that?

6/14/2006 10:52:00 PM

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"you lose"

scooter libby won

6/14/2006 10:54:37 PM

aahhh yes...but libby is not what this thread is about is it??

its about no rove indictment...its ok to be wrong

6/14/2006 10:58:28 PM

Yes I was wrong, along with everyone else in the media. The man went before the grand jury 6 times a day for 12 weeks.

The fact that a conservative would want to bring up one of their worst scandals is quite bizzare though.

6/14/2006 11:01:56 PM

It's more than merely a scandal, it's treason.

6/14/2006 11:06:56 PM

haha...oook

6/14/2006 11:24:41 PM

President Bush declared a war on terrorism. Undermining our intelligence efforts is betraying our country and is treasonous.

6/15/2006 12:23:14 AM

ok...you were wrong about Rove

6/15/2006 7:33:06 AM

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"Yes I was wrong, along with everyone else in the media. the liberal mainstream media "

6/15/2006 7:57:28 AM

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"pryderi: It's more than merely a scandal, it's treason."

the special prosecutor disagrees

who's word should I take on this? some kid posting on TWW, or an educated attorney previously lionized by teh L3ft for his fairness... 

6/15/2006 8:11:17 AM

Why is pryderi being wrong thread worthy? Everything spewing from his underdeveloped cranium is incorrect.

6/15/2006 10:12:37 AM

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"the special prosecutor disagrees "

No he said he believes that. He just cant prove that.

6/15/2006 10:38:57 AM

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"JoshNumbers: No he said he believes that. He just cant prove that."

Source?

6/15/2006 11:29:14 AM

THE WORDS OF PARTICK FITZGERALD

at the press conference. he said he knew a crime was commited.

we have proof is it was cheney anyway, the leaked memo.

[Edited on June 16, 2006 at 1:26 AM. Reason : 342]

6/16/2006 1:20:52 AM

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"pryderi: ...it's treason."

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"JoshNumbers: ...he believes that."

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"JoshNumbers: he said he knew a crime was commited."

i see what you did there, gg 

6/16/2006 2:48:06 AM

state facts?

6/16/2006 3:18:27 AM

Fact...carl rove...didnt do anything wrong...

Fact....Cheney...didnt do anything wrong...

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" we have proof is it was cheney anyway, the leaked memo."

hahahahaha.....is that right??...well why dont you call the special prosecuter and tell him about this memo?? apparently it doesnt prove anything...any argument to say otherwise is absurd because cheney has not been and will not be indicted...keep trying

[Edited on June 16, 2006 at 7:17 AM. Reason : 666]

6/16/2006 7:09:09 AM

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"well why dont you call the special prosecuter and tell him about this memo??"

im sure he knows about it

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"cheney has not been and will not be indicted"

doesnt mean he didnt do the crime.

[Edited on June 16, 2006 at 9:50 AM. Reason : 5234]

6/16/2006 9:50:04 AM

well if the memo proves cheney did it...why no indictment??

any reason you give for that question is bogus...if the memo proved cheney did it...he would be indicted ....simple as that...the memo doesnt prove anything

so what will be the next media generated scandal that the left will use to try to impeach bush??

[Edited on June 16, 2006 at 10:11 AM. Reason : asdf]

6/16/2006 10:09:00 AM

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"Josh#s: state facts?"

http://thesaurus.reference.com/browse/crime

find me "treason" plz, kthxu


[Edited on June 16, 2006 at 10:24 AM. Reason : you're starting to sound like Rush... or Karl even ...]

6/16/2006 10:23:02 AM

why?

6/16/2006 10:30:11 AM

any response as to why ...if the memo proves that cheney did it...he wont be charged with anything??

6/16/2006 11:51:36 AM

becuase these crimes are nearly impossible to prove in a court of law

6/16/2006 2:21:14 PM

[Edited on June 16, 2006 at 3:37 PM. Reason : smaller picture]

6/16/2006 3:35:19 PM

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"becuase these crimes are nearly impossible to prove in a court of law"

No crimes, no trial, no jail time. Seems logical to me.

6/16/2006 4:39:31 PM

so, everyone who commits a crime goes to jail?

6/16/2006 4:52:19 PM

josh....give up...its over...what will your pals in the media come up with next to try to impeach bush??

6/16/2006 6:17:36 PM

bush still won florida in 2000 last time i checked

i know some of you hold 6+ year grudges

but your complaining hasnt impeached bush like clinton was impeached

sore losers

btw i didnt vote in 00 or 04 so kiss my ass

6/16/2006 6:19:54 PM

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"but your complaining hasnt impeached bush like clinton was impeached "

you're proud of that fact? that the Republican House sponsored a hundred million dollar witch hunt that could only turn up a blowjob? and the Republican Senate couldnt find anything worthy of conviction?

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"btw i didnt vote in 00 or 04"

because you were too stoned to remember what day it was?

i mean, damn. why are you even here? you're a pathetic turd.

6/16/2006 6:38:51 PM

6/16/2006 6:46:24 PM

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"josh....give up...its over..."

by over, you mean the VP's chief of staff is on trial?



[Edited on June 16, 2006 at 8:52 PM. Reason : 523]

6/16/2006 8:52:12 PM

hahaha...no...who cares about scooter libby....you loser

by over i mean your pathetic attempt to get the president impeached or the VP indicted is over...you loser


whats next??

6/16/2006 8:54:49 PM