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Mr Scrumples
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Clearly these movies weren't shot in HD, so what's it matter?

6/15/2006 10:12:02 AM

quagmire02
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ummm...i know nothing about this, and i'm assuming that i resemble the average consumer in this respect

that said, i also don't know much about how movies are filmed, but perhaps transferring them onto DVD or VHS creates a loss in quality? so maybe putting them in HD-DVD preserves MORE of the original quality?

*shrug*

6/15/2006 10:17:31 AM

Mr Scrumples
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CRITERION YOU LIED TO ME

6/15/2006 10:19:42 AM

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Uh...I don't think any major motion picture has been shot in HD.

They are still shot with film. It just so happens that the "resolution" is higher than that of HD.

Some older films transfer quite well to HD.

6/15/2006 10:46:48 AM

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The original print or negetive would have much more resolution than HD, so I guess it would depend
on if the film was transfered in HD for HD, or just up-converted from an earlier transfer.

6/15/2006 10:48:30 AM

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yeah, HD-DVD's will look better than DVD's for any movie. i'm not going to pretend like i know how they get stuff that wasn't shot in HD into HD, but i watch older movies in HD all the time on cable and they all look great.

6/15/2006 10:49:58 AM

Mr Scrumples
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I'm wary about these HD-DVDs making my collection defunct or something...

6/15/2006 10:50:23 AM

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Anything that was shot in 77mm can be scanned at resolutions much higher than HD spec. Hell, you can get ~25MP resolution out of good 35mm film. The problem with older movies is the quality of the sound.

6/15/2006 11:12:05 AM

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^the man speaks the truth

6/15/2006 11:19:17 AM

WillD
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True, true. (concerning sound)

6/15/2006 4:17:47 PM

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Yea but your average older movie doesn't need sound to cary the movie like the current crop of action flicks. The story line, dialogue, and character development does just fine. Heck, in some cases having the old quirky 8 bit sounds adds to the effect.

6/15/2006 4:28:38 PM

bous
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old video is fine on old movies, definately won't be getting hd-dvd older movies

6/15/2006 5:15:46 PM

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Darkone got it. Film can get up to resolutions higher than HD (it does capture the light in tiny, tiny molecules instead of giant CMOS/CCD sensors). This is the reason they can do some older TV shows like Night Rider and Star Trek TOS in HD (they were shot on film), but not stuff from the late 80s and on that was done on magnetic tape.

6/15/2006 5:21:46 PM

sarijoul
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there's a lot of stupid is this thread. it's like people don't know what film even is. darkone and ^ pretty much have it.

6/16/2006 4:59:42 PM

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Quote :
"Uh...I don't think any major motion picture has been shot in HD."

A few have.

6/16/2006 5:17:13 PM

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All film is HD

6/16/2006 5:18:26 PM

sarijoul
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depends on what you mean by that gargs. . . but as a specific format, few films have been shot in HD.

6/16/2006 5:30:18 PM

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well, theoretically, but HD is much more than just resolution, and to say that the only problem with older movies is the sound would be dumb.

Film requires different kinds of post-processing where colors get altered and even the quality suffers...

Some movies shot entirely on digital HD systems are

* Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones
* Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith
* Spy Kids 2: The Island of Lost Dreams
* Spy Kids 3-D: Game Over
* Once Upon a Time in Mexico
* Sin City
* Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow
* Russian Ark
* Scary Movie 4
* Collateral
* Miami Vice
* Superman Returns


Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Definition_Video#Movies_that_have_been_shot_in_HD

6/16/2006 5:36:28 PM

Charybdisjim
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^ ah sadness, although some of those movies would definately be "neat" in HD, I don't know if I'd call any of them "good."

[Edited on June 16, 2006 at 7:25 PM. Reason : ]

6/16/2006 7:25:13 PM

spöokyjon

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"Film requires different kinds of post-processing where colors get altered and even the quality suffers..."

That's subjective.

6/16/2006 8:18:44 PM

Wolfrules
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go watch Blazing Saddles in HD-DVD.. and you'll see how much resolution they can pull from old film..

btw.. most movies and TV shows, including those broadcasted in HD, are still being shot on film..

7/19/2006 1:14:04 AM

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i've tried to watch blazing saddles twice, and both times it was so unfunny i couldnt finish it

7/19/2006 2:10:11 AM

moron
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Are you sure most TV shows are still shot on film? I would have thought most wouldn't be on film anymore.

7/19/2006 2:21:36 AM

Wolfrules
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well.. pretty much all dramas/episodic shows are shot on film, usually because of the complex lighting of those shows, which are usually filmed on location, outdoors, and on soundstages..

sitcoms are starting to switch to digital since they are multicamera, and are usually shot completely on soundstages so lighting isn't as complex. And sitcoms probably require more takes per scene, and with multiple cameras, the cost of film skyrockets quick.

i'm sure pretty soon, more dramas and the lingering sitcoms still shot on film will switch over.. but don't expect the CSI's for example, or any show shot on a backlot to switch anytime soon.

^^ i had a hard time watching it at first.. but i was amazed by the remastering WB did on the HD-DVD version..

[Edited on July 19, 2006 at 2:56 AM. Reason : ]

7/19/2006 2:53:08 AM

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