http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/5083974.stm
Tell me how he fucked this one up, pass the credit elsewhere, do what it is you people do...

6/16/2006 6:41:44 AM

whats the problem??

6/16/2006 7:06:12 AM

cool, not a big fan of bush, but nice to see something like that done

6/16/2006 7:09:19 AM

I was picturing a retirement home for soldiers or something. Then I saw a picture of fish, and I was like "oh..."

6/16/2006 7:23:06 AM

LOL too bad Hawaii is about to secede

6/16/2006 7:23:29 AM

I thought this tread was going to be about pulling out of Iraq.

6/16/2006 7:46:35 AM

I just wanted to see if the ultra-liberals could muster up a problem with this, because they generally have a distaste to the nth degree for anything Bush does.

Good to see people around here give credit when its due.

6/16/2006 8:50:48 AM

well, like i just said, it shouldn't really get that much praise because Hawaii is on track to declare independence in the next 10 years or so anyway

6/16/2006 8:58:45 AM

tree does this much better than bgmims ever could hope to

thanks for trying

[Edited on June 16, 2006 at 9:19 AM. Reason : `]

6/16/2006 9:19:00 AM

^^ so, what makes you believe that... haven't been paying much attention to Hawaiian politics, so i'm curious

6/16/2006 9:30:05 AM

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"cool, not a big fan of bush, but nice to see something like that done "

6/16/2006 9:33:57 AM

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"Hawaii is on track to declare independence in the next 10 years"

If you're gonna have a Civil War, what better place to have it?


I suspect though that the ecology crowd won't be satisfied until the whole pacific ocean is declared off limits to humanity.

6/16/2006 10:01:16 AM

What a waste of money

6/16/2006 10:12:05 AM

there will be no civil war; they are following the proper legislative and judicial procedures

6/16/2006 10:12:12 AM

well since they created this new marine sanctuary, they can now drill in alaska

6/16/2006 10:58:18 AM

we'd need another state though, 49 isnt a nice rounded number. perhaps PR.

6/16/2006 11:27:45 AM

Now it'll be that much more fun for Bush when he drills for oil in the coral reefs.

6/16/2006 11:32:56 AM

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"well since they created this new marine sanctuary, they can now drill in alaska "

that's what i was thinking, a grand diversion. and you can bet that there are probably no energy resources in that area, or bush would never have done this

6/16/2006 11:43:46 AM

split California in 2

6/16/2006 12:31:41 PM

they are just going to lure whales into the marine sancutary and then drill the whales for their precious whale oil.

6/16/2006 12:42:18 PM

I'm reminded of a Chris Rock bit, which I won't repeat here.

The punchline is "What, you want a cookie?"

6/16/2006 12:52:58 PM

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"cool, not a big fan of bush, but nice to see something like that done "

6/16/2006 4:43:18 PM

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"not a big fan of bush,"

i guess you guys are more like jonhguth's dad

seriously though its good to see some type of middle ground between traditionally-conservative and traditionally-liberal ideas

6/16/2006 4:50:32 PM

They just roped off some god-forsaken territory in the middle of nowhere that only natives(read "indians") cared about for fishing. It's a political no-brainer in any decade, whether the president is Teddy Roosevelt or Bush. I don't really give a fuck about it either way.

6/16/2006 7:35:24 PM

I thought that this was going to be about Haditha being turned into a sanctuary where marines can't be prosecuted.

6/16/2006 8:48:55 PM

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"ust roped off some god-forsaken territory in the middle of nowhere"

not true. its actually pretty important.

if bush wasnt such a fuckwit in just every other area, it could have been been a major part of his legacy.

6/16/2006 11:48:04 PM

I assume BUSH did some sort of survey to see if any minerals or oil were there first...also, on the news it looked like an old landfill with bottles and shit everyone...thanks Bush

6/17/2006 2:19:13 AM

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"well, like i just said, it shouldn't really get that much praise because Hawaii is on track to declare independence in the next 10 years or so anyway"

Hawaii isn't going anywhere, the legal foundation the small group of people that want independce are basing their claim on is the apology bill of 1993 which clearly states in its last line that it is just that, an apology and is not to be used for anything else. The issue is also too sticky with how many "non-native" live in hawaii some who have had families their for generations. of course the biggest point is that hawaii is still an important naval base for the US navy. so, yeah, not going anywhere.

6/18/2006 2:01:44 AM

so you say

6/18/2006 6:42:49 AM

If Bill Clinton had done somthing like this you liberals would be licking his balls harder than Monica

6/18/2006 8:16:24 AM

CLINTON COULD'VE DID IT

6/18/2006 10:43:08 AM

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"If Bill Clinton had done somthing like this you liberals would be licking his balls harder than Monica"

6/18/2006 10:55:32 AM

Political pandering is political pandering. I doubt this move would have helped either president.

6/18/2006 11:02:14 AM

at least he's making some place to put all the bodies from iraq

6/19/2006 1:00:42 AM

I thought this thread was about marines

6/19/2006 11:22:22 AM

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"so you say"

yeah, I'm sure they'll secede any year now

6/19/2006 1:13:53 PM

This is something that should have been done a long time ago and has not been given much attention. Not to mention it is one of the last few areas that has maintained biodiversity with (relatively) little loss over the last several generations. This was something that any president could have done, but finally this adminstration. The economic importance of small artisanal fisheries for lobsters is very insignificant, thus making this a little easier. This comes as very good news for some of the people I work with here in Miami and the NOAA labs here who did extensive reef surveys in the Dry Tortugas and have been funded to conduct similar surveys in the NW Hawaiian Islands.

[Edited on June 19, 2006 at 3:50 PM. Reason : .]

6/19/2006 3:49:47 PM