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Yet another myth of the Jewish-controlled media. Einstein was not this "genius of geniuses", and the j00z are NOT this master race with superhuman intelligence. Einstein was really a halfwit who couldn't tie his own shoes or remember where he lived. He was academically incapable, even flunking elementary mathematics as a boy. Later in life, he didn't possess the skills to become an engineer, so he worked in a patent office, allowing him to plagiarize the work of other scientists, steal their ideas, and pass it off as his own.


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"Albert Einstein -- was he a thief, a liar and a plagiarist?

ALBERT EINSTEIN is held up as "a rare genius," who drastically changed the field of theoretical physics. However, using the technique known as 'The Often-Repeated Lie=Truth,' he has been made an idol to young people, and his very name has become synonymous with genius.

THE TRUTH, HOWEVER, IS VERY DIFFERENT. Einstein was an inept and moronic person, who could not even tie his own shoelaces; he contributed NOTHING ORIGINAL to the field of quantum mechanics, nor any other science. On the contrary -- he stole the ideas of others, and the Jew-controlled media made him a 'hero.'

When we actually examine the life of Albert Einstein, we find that his only 'brilliance' was in his ability to PLAGIARIZE and STEAL OTHER PEOPLE'S IDEAS, PASSING THEM OFF AS HIS OWN. Einstein's education, or lack thereof, is an important part of this story.

The Encyclopedia Britannica says of Einstein's early education that he "showed little scholastic ability." It also says that at the age of 15, "with poor grades in history, geography, and languages, he left school with no diploma." Einstein himself wrote in a school paper of his "lack of imagination and practical ability." In 1895, Einstein failed a simple entrance exam to an engineering school in Zurich.

This exam consisted mainly of mathematical problems, and Einstein showed himself to be mathematically inept in this exam. He then entered a lesser school hoping to use it as a stepping stone to the engineering school he could not get into, but after graduating in 1900, he still could not get a position at the engineering school!

Unable to go to the school as he had wanted, he got a job (with the help of a friend) at the patent office in Bern. He was to be a technical expert third class, which meant that he was not competent to hold a higher qualified position. Even after publishing his so-called ground-breaking papers of 1905 and after working in the patent office for six years, he was only elevated to a second class standing. Remember, the work he was doing at the patent office, for which he was only rated third class, was not quantum mechanics or theoretical physics, but was reviewing technical documents for patents of every day things; yet he was barely qualified.

He would work at the patent office until 1909, all the while continuously trying to get a position at a university, but without success. All of these facts are true, but now begins the myth.

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Read on if you wish, or research the truth about Einsten for yourself.

6/28/2006 11:49:11 AM

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i am so glad i have your ass blocked.

i didn't have to see whatever retarded shit you just posted.

i'll still post in your threads to call you a fucking moron though, since it's statistically a no-brainer than its something fucking moronic.

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6/28/2006 11:50:17 AM

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ahahahahahahahaha best laugh i've had all day

6/28/2006 11:54:10 AM

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and what exactly does this have to do with world domination by jews?

6/28/2006 11:58:13 AM

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"ahahahahahahahaha best laugh i've had all day"

6/28/2006 11:59:22 AM

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^^ probably because Einstein is jewish. ..... so obviously the jews, i mean j00z, are falsely holding him up so people think jews are smart, or something

6/28/2006 12:19:47 PM

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OH MY GOD

this is the funniest shit i have ever heard

what's even better is the writer's complete lack of knowledge of physics or the history thereof

awesome

6/28/2006 12:20:52 PM

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Einstein Freed From Charge Of Plagiarism

According to the accepted view, the mathematician David Hilbert completed General Relativity five days before Albert Einstein in November 1915. Einstein may thus have copied crucial equations of this theory from Hilbert.

Members of an international research group at the Max Planck Institute for the History of Science, Berlin, argue in their study, published in this week's issue of Science, that it was instead Hilbert who appropriated crucial results from Einstein and then published his paper under a misleading dateline.

Albert Einstein submitted his conclusive paper on General Relativity on 25 November 1915. David Hilbert, one of the most eminent mathematicians of the 20th century, published a paper in March 1916 which also contains the correct field equations of General Relativity. Einstein came to know Hilbert's contribution in late November, even before he found his final equations. He immediately claimed that Hilbert had appropriated his results. The dateline of Hilbert's paper, "20 November 1915," however, suggests that it was submitted five days earlier than Einstein's contribution. Did Einstein even copy the correct field equations from Hilbert's paper, as has been argued? This possibility can now definitely be excluded.

The authors of the present paper succeeded in identifying proofs of Hilbert's article that are dated "6 December 1915," that is after the submission of Einstein's conclusive contribution. Their detailed analysis of these proofs has revealed that they contain only an immature version of General Relativity, without the explicit field equations. These equations must have been inserted only later - after 6 December and before the published version appeared in 1916. Hilbert was, so the authors argue, still deeply ingrained in wrong assumptions about the physical meaning of his formalism, asssumptions which Einstein had meanwhile painfully overcome. Einstein can hence definitively be freed from the charge of plagiarism.

Hilbert's contribution, on the other hand, cannot even be considered as an independent alternative discovery of the field equations of General Relativity. Clearly, before he published the final version of his article, he must have seen Einstein's conclusive paper. If Hilbert had only altered the dateline of this paper to the date when he inserted the correct equations into the proofs no later priority discussion could have arisen.

Although disputes about priority and plagiarism can be crucially important to working scientists, they are not necessarily a key issue in the history of science. Historians of science are often less interested in who made an important new discovery but rather in how new insights become possible. In the case of Einstein's and Hilbert's struggle for establishing the field equations of a new, relativistic theory of gravitation the situation is, however, different since the approaches taken by the two scientists were dramatically distinct: Whereas Einstein combined mathematical strategies with a search for physical meaning, Hilbert very much relied on the power of his superior mathematical formalism. Clearly, in this case, the who of the discovery tells indeed much about the how.

Since 1907 Einstein had attempted to carefully reconcile, step by step, tentative mathematical formulations of his heuristic goal to formulate a relativistic theory of gravitation with the then available physical knowledge. Hilbert, on the other hand, had only begun to work on General Relativity in the second half of 1915. He boldly aimed from the beginning at an axiomatic foundation of physics and at a kind of world formula, unifying gravitation with electromagnetism. This approach caused the wrong impression that the field equations of General Relativity could be found by pure mathematical reasoning.

The results reported in the article in Science are an outcome of an international research project dedicated to the history of General Relativity. The project is centered at the Max Planck Institute for the History of Science in Berlin and has produced in the last years several new insights into the development of this theory.

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6/28/2006 12:21:44 PM

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Hey 30thannz, I somehow missed the whole "block" thing. Is that a premie feature? And if not, how does one go about blocking? Its either salisburyboy or pryderi for me

6/28/2006 12:28:24 PM

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albert einstein is arguably the greatest theoretical mind of all time

his contributions to physics are numerous, ground breaking, and across many different fields

he's given CREDIT for the being one of the founders of quantum mechanics (even though he loathed the philosophical implications of the field)

he's the first to understand gravity as a warping of space-time by matter and the influence of warped space-time on matter

he's the first to really show that atoms EXIST

well shit... i just did a google search for einstein and solid state physics, and LOOK WHAT I FOUND

Albert Einstein as the father of solid state physics
Authors: Manuel Cardona
Comments: 25 pages including 10 figures
Subj-class: History of Physics; Other

Einstein is usually revered as the father of special and general relativity. In this article I demonstrate that he is also the father of Solid State Physics, or even his broader version known as Condensed Matter Physics (including liquids). His 1907 article on the specific heat of solids introduces, for the first time, the effect of lattice vibrations on the thermodynamic properties of crystals, in particular the specific heat. His 1905 article on the photoelectric effect and photoluminescence opened the fields of photoelectron spectroscopy and photoluminescence spectroscopy. Other important achievements include Bose-Einstein condensation and the Einstein relation between the difussion coefficient an mobility. In this article I discuss Einstein's papers relevant to these topics and their relevance to modern day condensed matter physics.

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you all might not know this, but Manuel Cardona is one of the greatest physicsts of all time

this is so silly

6/28/2006 12:30:24 PM

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Don't pester us with your Jew Physics.

6/28/2006 12:31:22 PM

nastoute
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the funny thing is the nazis were all ABOUT knocking einstein and his "jew physics"

it was DISGRACEFUL

6/28/2006 12:32:54 PM

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this salisburyboy guy is a fuckin dumbass. why does he believe this stupid shit?


Let me ask you a question, kid. What do you do for a living? I'm curious as to who would hire someone like you.

Jesus fucking christ.

6/28/2006 12:33:38 PM

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why don't you try to read and understand his 3 famous papers written in 1905, salisburyboy?

6/28/2006 12:34:57 PM

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biblebelievers.org hahah

6/28/2006 12:36:03 PM

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I just don't see how this salisbury guy can respond with anything. How can one even continue to post in this section after being such an idiot?

6/28/2006 12:37:29 PM

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i love reading sites names stuff like Bible Believers trying to use science to help disprove ...... science

6/28/2006 12:37:38 PM

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you want to knock on someone who couldn't function in society, why don't you go after, Erdös, asshole?

http://www-history.mcs.st-andrews.ac.uk/Biographies/Erdos.html

now that's a dude who couldn't take care of himself

and yet, one of the most prolific of mathematicians

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6/28/2006 12:38:21 PM

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could someone answer my question about blocking? I dont want to see another thing this guy posts.

6/28/2006 12:41:25 PM

nastoute
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blocking is for douches

6/28/2006 12:42:16 PM

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Stephen Hawking cant even brush his own fucking teeth

yet we're supposed to believe he knows jack shit about the universe

i meat wtf

6/28/2006 12:42:39 PM

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Einstein could not spell worth a damn, so that completely discredits anything he said.

6/28/2006 12:43:17 PM

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one stone!

6/28/2006 12:59:44 PM

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"In 1895, Einstein failed a simple entrance exam to an engineering school in Zurich. "


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"Although he excelled in the mathematics and science portion of the Eidgenössische Technische Hochschule (ETH, Swiss Federal Institute of Technology, in Zürich) entrance exam the following year, his failure of the liberal arts portion was a setback"


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Einstein

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"It also says that at the age of 15, "with poor grades in history, geography, and languages, he left school with no diploma.""


So I guess that you forgot that his first scientific work was completed when he was 15?

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"and the j00z are NOT this master race with superhuman intelligence"


Who said that?

I have never heard anyone use Einstein as evidence of jewish superiority.

Did you believe this before you read the biblebelievers article, or did you just see it, recognize it as a piece slandering jews and immediatley realize that you had to post it here?

6/28/2006 1:02:26 PM

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"Supposedly, while working a full time job, without the aid of university colleagues, a staff of graduate students, a laboratory, or any of the things normally associated with an academic setting, Einstein in his spare time wrote four ground-breaking essays in the field of theoretical physics and quantum mechanics that were published in 1905.

Many people have recognized the impossibility of such a feat, including Einstein himself, and therefore Einstein has led people to believe that many of these ideas came to him in his sleep, out of the blue, because indeed that is the only logical explanation of how an admittedly inept moron could have written such documents at the age of 26 without any real education. THE TRUTH IS: HE STOLE THE IDEAS AND PLAGIARIZED THE PAPERS."

http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/einstein.htm

6/28/2006 1:25:54 PM

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"Yet another myth of the Jewish-controlled media REALITY"



everyone knows that nobody without graduate students or labs can do physics.

just take newton. that jew/arian (and he WAS an arian) couldnt have created modern physics because he wasnt working in a college w/ graduate students and lab equipment.

[Edited on June 28, 2006 at 1:35 PM. Reason : 24323]

6/28/2006 1:32:25 PM

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Neat strategy! Don't defend your ideas, just post sections of the article that you skipped over originally!

Can you explain how a "moron" like Albert Einstein would be able to defend such complex ideas to others?

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"My awareness of the essential nature of Judaism resists the idea of a Jewish State, with borders, an army, and a measure of temporal power, no matter how modest. I am afraid of the inner damage Judaism will sustain."


http://www.algemeiner.com/generic.asp?id=454

Why would the "jew controlled media" turn someone who opposed zionism into a celebrity in the scientific community? Wouldn't it benefit their cause to have such a genius support jewish statehood rather than oppose it?

6/28/2006 1:35:15 PM

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"The Encyclopedia Britannica says of Einstein's early education that he "showed little scholastic ability." "


you know who else showed little scholastic ability?




























jesus christ our lord.

6/28/2006 1:37:33 PM

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,,3928978-103681,00.html

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"Einstein's E=mc2 'was Italian's idea'

Rory Carroll in Rome
Thursday November 11, 1999
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The mathematical equation that ushered in the atomic age was discovered by an unknown Italian dilettante two years before Albert Einstein used it in developing the theory of relativity, it was claimed yesterday.

Olinto De Pretto, an industrialist from Vicenza, published the equation E=mc2 in a scientific magazine, Atte, in 1903, said Umberto Bartocci, a mathematical historian.

Einstein allegedly used De Pretto's insight in a major paper published in 1905, but De Pretto was never acclaimed, said Professor Bartocci of the University of Perugia.

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A Swiss Italian named Michele Besso alerted Einstein to the research and in 1905 Einstein published his own work, said Prof Bartocci. It took years for his breakthrough to be grasped. When the penny finally dropped, De Pretto's contribution was overlooked while Einstein went on to become the century's most famous scientist. De Pretto died in 1921.

"De Pretto did not discover relativity but there is no doubt that he was the first to use the equation. That is hugely significant. I also believe, though it's impossible to prove, that Einstein used De Pretto's research," said Prof Bartocci, who has written a book on the subject.

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The influence of work by other physicists on Einstein's theory is also controversial. A German, David Hilbert, is thought by some to have been decisive.

Edmund Robertson, professor of mathematics at St Andrew's University, said: "An awful lot of mathematics was done by people who have never been credited - Arabs in the middle ages, for example. Einstein may have got the idea from someone else, but ideas come from all sorts of places."

6/28/2006 1:39:06 PM

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"the j00z are NOT this master race with superhuman intelligence"


everyone knows they are.

6/28/2006 1:42:04 PM

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"I also believe, though it's impossible to prove, that Einstein used De Pretto's research," said Prof Bartocci, who has written a book on the subject."


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"A German, David Hilbert, is thought by some to have been decisive."


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"Einstein may have got the idea from someone else, but ideas come from all sorts of places."


Are we supposed to believe you based on one of the vaguest articles that I have ever read?

New research is based on old research. Thats how progress works.

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"But of course Pretto did not derive the equation using theory of relativity. The equation seems to have been anticipated by several other physicists such as Henri Poincaré also, although not attaching to it the same implication of equivalence of mass and energy."


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olinto_De_Pretto

You're going to have to actually prove something instead of finding an article that says that your claims could be possible and then leaving it to us to assume that the jew is guilty.

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6/28/2006 1:45:07 PM

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Hahahaha can this get any more obvious that this guy is trolling?

GOOD FUCKING JOB DUKE

6/28/2006 1:45:17 PM

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plus: the article i posted above refutes the david hilbert bit of it.

6/28/2006 1:46:42 PM

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you know that movie 'the italian job'

its about the theft of e=mc2

6/28/2006 1:48:21 PM

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More interesting info on Einstein...

He married his cousin (Elsa Lowenthal), and one of his sons was diagnosed with schizophrenia and died in an asylum.

just fyi

6/28/2006 1:51:54 PM

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I wonder if he'll ever snap out of this

6/28/2006 1:52:53 PM

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do we need to post salisburyboy's real name again?

6/28/2006 1:53:49 PM

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^^^just an fyi, he didn't have any children with his second wife (elsa)

also: their other son became a professor of hydraulic engineering.

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6/28/2006 1:54:56 PM

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I think we do

6/28/2006 1:55:05 PM

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Info that the jewish media would have you believe. He actually married his sister.

6/28/2006 1:55:46 PM

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Even the following nobel prize web website admits Einstein didn't originate all of the ideas for the theory of general relativity and the theory of special relativity:

http://nobelprize.org/educational_games/physics/relativity/history-1.html

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"Einstein was far from being the only person who contributed to the development of the theory of special relativity. However, he was the one who put everything together. "


Errrr, you mean, Einstein was the one who compiled the research of others, and passed it off as his own.

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"Actually, the German mathematician David Hilbert submitted an article containing the correct field equations for general relativity five days before Einstein."


Oooops. I'm sure that was just a coincidence.

6/28/2006 1:58:29 PM

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I believe I got this idea from somebody else, so it may be plagiarism:

Salisburyboy is a dumbass.

6/28/2006 1:59:34 PM

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"The authors of the present paper succeeded in identifying proofs of Hilbert's article that are dated "6 December 1915," that is after the submission of Einstein's conclusive contribution. Their detailed analysis of these proofs has revealed that they contain only an immature version of General Relativity, without the explicit field equations. These equations must have been inserted only later - after 6 December and before the published version appeared in 1916. Hilbert was, so the authors argue, still deeply ingrained in wrong assumptions about the physical meaning of his formalism, asssumptions which Einstein had meanwhile painfully overcome. Einstein can hence definitively be freed from the charge of plagiarism.

Hilbert's contribution, on the other hand, cannot even be considered as an independent alternative discovery of the field equations of General Relativity. Clearly, before he published the final version of his article, he must have seen Einstein's conclusive paper. If Hilbert had only altered the dateline of this paper to the date when he inserted the correct equations into the proofs no later priority discussion could have arisen."

6/28/2006 2:01:09 PM

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I wish this guy had pictures of himself so we could see what kind of fag he must be.

6/28/2006 2:05:15 PM

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Look at it this way...


Even if everything he published was plagiarized, he was absolutely brilliant to be able to pick out the "winning" findings. I mean, some of his theories (or the ones he stole) were unable to be proved for many years, but I can't think of anything that Einstein said that turned out to be wrong. At worst, his track record is far better than anyone less than a top-shelf genius could possibly manage, EVEN IF he didn't come up with it all himself (he'd still have to be absolutely brilliant in order to seperate the good science from the bad with such proficiency)


Furthermore, if he was simply a poster boy held up by the Jewish power brokers, why in the hell would they pick a simple-minded dropout?

6/28/2006 2:05:26 PM

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Salisburyboy
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6/28/2006 2:07:41 PM

Mr E Nigma
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and it's theDuke866 for the win!

6/28/2006 2:07:51 PM

Mr. Joshua
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No one wins in these threads.

6/28/2006 2:08:29 PM

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6/28/2006 2:09:43 PM

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Was this in the news recently? I just dont get what it has to do with this section.

6/28/2006 2:10:07 PM

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