As usual, I can't decide what kind of car I want, any suggestions?
Ahmet

7/15/2006 2:05:40 AM

get a convertible Benz yo
esgargs

7/15/2006 2:06:17 AM

what haven't you owned already?

7/15/2006 2:06:20 AM

Let's see, I've owned a heavily modified 944, 6 944 turbos and a 944 Turbo S (ranging from light bolt ons to full track cars). Then there's the BMWs... An e30 325, 2 e36 325s (one w/HR cup kit, wheels, sway bars, etc., and one with M3 susp), an e36 M3 (my fave. so far), a 540i sport/6 speed, a new gen Saab 900 turbo SE (with mods), an Accord V6 coupe, a Prelude Si, VW Jetta GLI, Golf GTi, Scirocco S. A Volvo 740 turbo wagon, 2 Volvo 850 turbo wagons (one w/an R engine). An Audi 4000 Quattro CS, a couple of bikes, etc. I'm sure I'm missing some.

Anyway, MUST be rwd and manual. Can possibly go non-German, but don't prefer to. I've considered the 996 chasis 911 but think that they may be expensive to own. I keep flirting w/the idea of a C5 vette, but I really don't like driving them other than the power/sound, and would hate to be seen in one. M5s and e46 M3s seem heavy and the latter is sure to continue to depreciate, esp. as the e92 comes out. The M5 is pushing it for the size of car I want. The GTO is also up there and too heavy. I do like the CTS-V, but it seems like it would depreciate and is also heavy. I really don't feel like I have much of a choice but another M3 (maybe w/more radical mods this time), or if I get the itch maybe another 944 turbo. However, I don't want to have too much of a lobsided car ownership experience, so I'm trying to be objective, and go through a variety of cars, but it seems like I keep coming back to this whole Porsche/BMW thing.
Ahmet

7/15/2006 2:34:46 AM

all I see is:
car
car
wagon
car
car
bike
car

have you ever thought of tryin' a pickup truck?

7/15/2006 4:18:09 AM

I've got a pathfinder right now. It's fun in it's own way, but I want a 'car'. BTW, the wagons were very much cool. I would own an m3 wagon if I could, and I would've bought an STi/EVO wagon new, if they were offered. I love wagons.
Ahmet

7/15/2006 4:39:58 AM

WRX wagon/SAAB 9-2 Aero?

7/15/2006 6:27:26 AM

7/15/2006 8:39:39 AM

7/15/2006 9:03:58 AM

black '95 M3

7/15/2006 9:36:11 AM

whats wrong with being seen in a c5 corvette? theyre hotness

7/15/2006 10:02:54 AM

^irrespective of age, you will look starved of attention.

7/15/2006 10:05:58 AM

because daddy never loved me

get an A4

7/15/2006 10:14:57 AM

if you have the money for maintenance i think an S4 would be a neat car to own. But from what i know from black forrest and slut... they're all pretty expensive to maintain.

7/15/2006 10:26:25 AM

supra, NSX, Audi, E55 AMG, H1

7/15/2006 12:32:43 PM

buy an S4

7/15/2006 12:37:07 PM

7/15/2006 12:42:19 PM

yeah, get ^ if you want some junk

7/15/2006 12:51:35 PM

Supra's also too heavy/disconnected feeling. I've driven an S2k, and it isn't me, even though I like them. They don't have enough torque, and are a bit too small. The S4 is quite the car, I came close to buying one more than once but reliability scared me. I would've bought it if the steering wasn't as numb as it is on them though. One of my favorite cars, but seems best enjoyed as a GT car rather than a sports sedan. That is just about right for the size of car I prefer though.

I considered 300zx tts, I know they're a pain to work on, but I do like those cars. I also like the NSX, I've never driven one. Perhaps I'll go test drive one and see what I think If I found a good deal on either of these cars, I think I might buy one.

AMG Benz is out, no autos for me. H1's obviously not going to do either.
Ahmet

7/15/2006 12:52:40 PM

NSX drives like a civic

until you push it

7/15/2006 1:01:30 PM

Quote :

"I keep flirting w/the idea of a C5 vette, but I really don't like driving them other than the power/sound, and would hate to be seen in one."

Then give one to me, I'm not ashamed of a great car.

And the rest of those cars aren't begging for attention?? please.

7/15/2006 1:42:47 PM

ahmet, how about a c4. carries less of a stigma than a c5, and still easy enough to get out and race.

or, i know someone with a rare audi turbo quattro sitting in storage... dont know much more but ill find out and let you know.

7/15/2006 1:49:59 PM

maybe not what your looking for, but here goes

1991 Audi Turbo Quattro
specs: http://members.aol.com/c1j1miller/200-specs.html

looks something like this:



pearl
~165k miles
previously owned by james scott farrin
needs two hydraulic hoses and a battery, been parked in a garage for 2.5 years, otherwise in good running shape when parked.

youll have to go see it and make an offer, but i get the feeling it will take at least a couple thousand to get the car.
PM me for the sellers contact info

7/15/2006 2:23:57 PM

I loved my C4. Sounds like you need to drive an NSX though

7/15/2006 2:36:36 PM

Quote :

"Then give one to me, I'm not ashamed of a great car. And the rest of those cars aren't begging for attention?? please."

I'm not saying it's not a remarkable car in some ways. I just don't like their perceived image. I would absolutely drive many crappy old cars. Right now I drive an, old and high mile BMW 3 series. The trouble is, you often see fat hairy man with wife beaters/gold chains driving them + a license plate that reads "UWANTME", often w/a chain plate frame. Perhaps I'm being too concerned with what other people may think...

C4: I love the suspension layout/how it's exposed w/the hood open. Great engiens as well, but I'm afraid the car is a bit on the big side for me, again.

I like NSX's a lot. I will start looking into them. Whatever I get this time around, I want to track heavily, so 300zx doesn't seem like a great idea. The Audi would be a cool car, but they're quite complex, I had to work on them quite a bit back in the day, the hydraulic system is a nightmare and a half. Also clearly not a track car candidate either. I will see if I can find any NSX's locally, and I've looked at a few more m3s. Hopefully I will buy something soon.
Ahmet

[Edited on July 15, 2006 at 5:41 PM. Reason : C4]

7/15/2006 5:40:31 PM

NSX's are hot, good luck finding one, i'm sure one will turn up

[Edited on July 15, 2006 at 5:49 PM. Reason : ]

7/15/2006 5:49:16 PM

7/15/2006 6:13:25 PM

Eh, probably shouldn't but the last 5 series I owned is still one of my faves.
Ahmet

7/15/2006 9:39:43 PM

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1993-Mazda-RX-7-RX7-RX-7-1-3L-Rotary-Twin-Turbo_W0QQitemZ220004327799QQihZ012QQcategoryZ6327QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Could be a fun little ride.

7/15/2006 10:48:33 PM

original, potent 3sgte.. awd.. hatchback..

[Edited on July 15, 2006 at 11:04 PM. Reason : alltrac.net]

7/15/2006 10:58:28 PM

Quote :

"Eh, probably shouldn't but the last 5 series I owned is still one of my faves. Ahmet"

Ill admit I have toyed with the idea of selling it back to you, I havent driven it much since I got it from you. It still hasnt hit 150k.

7/15/2006 11:06:29 PM

^^

put that engine to better use

7/15/2006 11:37:51 PM

mk2 mr2 + camry 3L V6 with vvt-i. big radiator and slightly better brakes

7/15/2006 11:45:45 PM

you guys dont understand. ahmet would be wasting time and money with a sport compact car.

7/15/2006 11:51:57 PM

he wants light, rwd, good suspension geometry, and something that won't fall apart on track. an mk2 mr2 meets all of that and home slice can keep the ragged out e36 as his daily

7/16/2006 12:00:33 AM

7/16/2006 12:05:53 AM

7/16/2006 12:07:19 AM

Quote :

"I've driven an S2k, and it isn't me, even though I like them. They don't have enough torque, and are a bit too small."

yeah, it just needs to have the engine breathed on a little.

(and personally, i wish they were smaller and lighter)

7/16/2006 12:50:29 AM

Ahmet, I have to admit I've gained some of your appreciation for wagons recently. Dunno why. I'm not ready to buy one yet, but they're growing on me

Along those lines, have you considered a regular WRX wagon? If you got an older one, you could put some money into upgraded suspension and handling, and maybe even a bit in power. I just think it would be hilarious to have a wagon that could toast a lot of cars out there while looking like a grocery hauler to most people, heheh.

7/16/2006 7:17:09 AM

Audi A8

7/16/2006 8:38:17 AM

MR2 is a bit small. I have thought about both an RX-7 and an MR2 turbo. The WRX is too soft in stock form (just about the right size though) but more importantly they feel too 'thin' or unsubstential in typical japanese car fashion (an S2k is a good exception to this, as is a miata/RX-7, and I suppose possibly the NSX). I am looking at NSXs, haven't seen anything crazy, feel free to give me any heads up if you come across one.

Thanks for the suggestions. I'm thinking a supercharged M3 4 door is really what I should get again.
Ahmet

7/16/2006 3:05:27 PM

NSX

I knew way too many highschool kids with E36 M3's

and that rx-7 somebody posted has probably 6k left on that motor and does not boost correctly. And I'm saying that as an Rx-7 owner... it takes a certain type of person to own the 3rd generation of those cars.

7/16/2006 3:17:51 PM

The highschool kids had red or black 2 doors though. I am looking for a white/green/silver 4 door. Bonus points on the M3 for being practical and a asleeper. W/coil overs +supercharger, it should be pretty fast and plenty reliable.
I do like the NSX. It's not as practical, but hey. As I said, I've started looking.
The RX7 does irk me w/it's reliability, funny that's what's pushing me to the M3. They seem bulletproof as track cars, and I've yet to see any boosted car run w/out trouble in the long term on track, let alone RX-7s (usually they carry extra pre-mixed gas, blow hoses/radiators, etc. quite often). As for the Celica, it's a cool car and all, but japanese and bad weight distribution/driving dynamics (It is the AWD version of a FWD car, and the engine is still transverse).
Ahmet

7/16/2006 3:38:52 PM

Get a 1953 Jaguar XK-120 SE coupe

7/16/2006 3:41:38 PM

I'm around a bunch of classic cars all day. Call me a wuss but I want something I can drive effortlessly if I wish. Something that's still fun, safe, fairly economical (but of course that's relative), etc. Sure if I was in a position to have multiple cars, a classic Jag would be on the list, but...
Ahmet

7/16/2006 4:28:22 PM

Quote :

"W/coil overs +supercharger,"

7/16/2006 5:17:53 PM

?

7/16/2006 5:49:30 PM

s4 would be sweet for daily driving but kinda suck as a track car

a turbo e36 m3 is something i've thought about.

7/16/2006 6:12:24 PM

2002 Mercedes CL WDBLJ70G02F197993 36675 CLK430 (553506)

[Edited on July 16, 2006 at 6:42 PM. Reason : not much of a track car, but pick it up thursday auction ]

7/16/2006 6:40:52 PM

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