Brass Monkey All American 13560 Posts user info edit post |
Do we have any chance at ever getting a Super Bowl at BoA?
The next few super bowls will be played in these locations:
Super Bowl XLI - Dolphins Stadium Super Bowl XLII - Cardinals Stadium Super Bowl XLIII - Raymond James Stadium Super Bowl XLIV - Dolphins Stadium 8/1/2006 2:09:19 AM |
arhodes All American 1612 Posts user info edit post |
think about what February weather is like in those stadiums?
8/1/2006 2:16:13 AM |
Brass Monkey All American 13560 Posts user info edit post |
i think there should be more equality in choosing locations around the league. besides this is football. it's meant to be played in all forms of weather. i mean they play in cool-cold environments during the playoffs in January, why can't they play in them during the first week or so of February.
[Edited on August 1, 2006 at 2:22 AM. Reason : ] 8/1/2006 2:21:25 AM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
no one wants to pay $500 to sit in the ice bowl 8/1/2006 2:27:10 AM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
More importantly, when will the All-Star Super Skills be at the RBC Center? 8/1/2006 2:36:00 AM |
Brass Monkey All American 13560 Posts user info edit post |
apparently these are the qualifications a venue must have to host the Super Bowl:
A potential venue currently must meet these qualifications in order to be a Super Bowl host:
* Average high temperature of at least 50 degrees Fahrenheit in February. * Stadium with 70,000 seats or more. * Space for 10 photo trailers and 40 television trucks. * 600,000 square feet of exhibit space for fan events. * Large, high-end hotel for teams and NFL. * 50,000 square feet of space for news media ("Radio Row"). * Enough "quality" hotel rooms within a one-hour drive for 35% of the stadium's capacity. * Separate practice facilities for each team.
Exceptions are at the discretion of the NFL. 8/1/2006 2:45:59 AM |
quiet guy Suspended 3020 Posts user info edit post |
^ the climate exception is for indoor arenas 8/1/2006 6:02:24 AM |
ncwolfpack31 All American 968 Posts user info edit post |
Kansas City was told they could host one if they could build a temporary cover for the stadium. 8/1/2006 7:52:54 AM |
sm_superstar Veteran 278 Posts user info edit post |
Dang, now only if the Miami Dolphins could get to a Super Bowl, that would be GREAT for them!
(Highly unlikely though) 8/1/2006 8:02:34 AM |
abonorio All American 9344 Posts user info edit post |
^^ Yeah, KC will host the 2012 one I believe. They just passed rennovations to both Arrowhead and Kauffman stadiums. Arrowhead will be domed. 8/1/2006 8:33:41 AM |
The Dude All American 6502 Posts user info edit post |
^ i think that fuckin stupid that they would dome Arrowhead
it will make the place louder than it already is
but I think you ruin a lot of the football experience with a dome 8/1/2006 9:50:56 AM |
Crazywade All American 4918 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "think about what February weather is like in those stadiums?" |
Maybe 10 degrees difference than Charlotte? Not too cold in Charlotte. We're not exactly Green Bay.8/1/2006 9:53:09 AM |
hunterb2003 All American 14423 Posts user info edit post |
if we put a roof on it 8/1/2006 9:55:26 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
the stadium would be fine
its the lack of amenities in the vicinity
not enough hotels, roads, etc
the superbowl is a massive fucking production
but as far as just the field, its just as good as any other nfl field as far as quality 8/1/2006 10:56:50 AM |
jdman the Dr is in 3848 Posts user info edit post |
tagliabue said charlotte was out because of the hotel capacity 8/1/2006 11:36:58 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
downtown is growing pretty nice
i see us getting an ACC football title game here in the next 5-6 years (ie after the Jaxtown deal is up and they re-evaluate)
that will give a better idea of the city's capacity to carry a large sporting event
we had the NBA All Star weekened in Charlotte somewhere between 91 and 93, cant recall, and it was fine...but its smaller than the Superbowl and it was out at the non-downtown Charlotte Coliseum 8/1/2006 11:39:08 AM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
i think if charlotte can handle speed week and 2 huge races a year (i know the speedway is actually in concord, but its a charlotte event) The SB wouldn't be a prob (actually it would better prepare the city for another week+ event). Plus, if they knew that they were getting a SB in 5 or so years, they would fork out the money to make the necessary upgrades. 8/1/2006 12:43:54 PM |
Waluigi All American 2384 Posts user info edit post |
this makes about as much sense as holding the super bowl in Cincinnatti or Kansas City or Omaha, Nebraska. the whole point is to hold it in an attractive destination. thats why New Orleans and Miami have hosted the most. 8/1/2006 12:49:38 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
^^yeah but none of that traffic really affects downtown Charlotte where the football stadium is
2 different animals 8/1/2006 12:51:24 PM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
Detroit is not attractive......they're talking about KC that's not attractive......... 8/1/2006 12:56:47 PM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "^^yeah but none of that traffic really affects downtown Charlotte where the football stadium is
2 different animals" |
my point is that they have past experiences in dealing with massive sporting events, and to a point know the logistics of it, problems that arise, how to deal with a mass influx of people ect.....
and they would be more than willing (and have ample time) to fix any potential problems the nfl comes up with.8/1/2006 1:00:06 PM |
sNuwPack All American 6519 Posts user info edit post |
why would people want to go to miami? oh, bc it's in the southern tip of florida with a lot of cool night life.
why would people want to go to new orleans, oh bc it has an awesome night life and is in the south and has a lot of french stuff
why would people want to go to san diego, oh bc it's in california, on the beach, and has cool night life and day life.
why would people want to go anywhere else that most superbowls are at? oh, various reasons similar to those above.
why would people want to go to charlotte? oh bc.........there are tobacco fields.....
one of these doesn't fit with the others (hint, it's the one in bold ok?) 8/1/2006 1:00:14 PM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
^see above..... why would people want to go to detroit?
why would people want to go to KC?
[Edited on August 1, 2006 at 1:02 PM. Reason : i see your bold and raise an underline . ] 8/1/2006 1:02:01 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
there arent any tobacco fields in charlotte
why would peopel want to go to miami? oh, to pay $20 for a can of bud light and get robbed by coke dealers
why would people want to go to new orleans? oh, bc its the poorest city in the country and has lots of french stuff
why would people want to go to san diego? oh, bc they suffer from insomnia 8/1/2006 1:02:17 PM |
sNuwPack All American 6519 Posts user info edit post |
detroit is the home of motown and all that, at least they have museums and stuff, they have a catch at least.
sorry to break it to you, but I bet kc has a LOT more to do around the city than charlotte, a LOT.
i mean knoxville is way better than charlotte, and im sure kc is better than knoxville
[Edited on August 1, 2006 at 1:04 PM. Reason : sfafds] 8/1/2006 1:04:10 PM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
i've been to KC..........not impressive.........who goes to the superbowl to visit museums? KC can't even get BBQ right. Never been to Detroit, but from what i've heard...........also not very impressive. 8/1/2006 1:08:03 PM |
sNuwPack All American 6519 Posts user info edit post |
if people are going to be there for 3-7 days you have to give them shit to do, what would they do in charlotte, go outlet shopping? 8/1/2006 1:09:37 PM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
give them 5+ years to prepare and you might be suprised. 8/1/2006 1:10:50 PM |
sNuwPack All American 6519 Posts user info edit post |
well if they make some shit, maybe in 5+years they'll win a bid 8/1/2006 1:11:27 PM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
i really think its more of a weather issue. its an area where it may be 70 degrees in feb., or there might be 2 inches of ice everywhere. 8/1/2006 1:14:11 PM |
Kickstand All American 11597 Posts user info edit post |
I believe MJ complained that Charlotte was a boring city to play in sometime during the mid-90's when he was with the Bulls; thus, it would also be too boring for the Super Bowl. 8/1/2006 1:16:54 PM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
Where does MJ work now? 8/1/2006 1:18:23 PM |
abonorio All American 9344 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "sorry to break it to you, but I bet kc has a LOT more to do around the city than charlotte, a LOT." |
I LIVED in Kansas City. I would prefer Charlotte any day of the week. There is nothing in KC. No culture. No nightlife. No nothing. They have ONE district that is KIND OF cool. The Plaza has some high end shops and it's all decked out in Spanish architecture. And it's only one street. Maybe 4 or 5 blocks. Besides that. Nothing.8/1/2006 1:20:59 PM |
sNuwPack All American 6519 Posts user info edit post |
^ok, well what does charlotte have then? I mean I've been to charlotte, WHAT IS ONE THING REMOTELY CLOSE TO A TOURIST SPOT OR NIGHTLIFE IN CHARLOTTE
oh yea they have like 2 bars at this one spot, it's mad crazy yo 8/1/2006 1:22:48 PM |
abonorio All American 9344 Posts user info edit post |
KC is boring as shit man. Nothing there but flat land and a dirty missouri river. Oh it's so cool because it actually goes across two states.
That's it. 8/1/2006 1:26:00 PM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
Charlotte sure attracts hundreds of thousands of people for speed week every year. I guess they all just sit around complaining for a week about how they wish they were in Kansas City. 8/1/2006 1:26:18 PM |
sNuwPack All American 6519 Posts user info edit post |
haha you didn't answer my question though 8/1/2006 1:26:30 PM |
abonorio All American 9344 Posts user info edit post |
I dodged it, yes I'm not saying Charlotte is San Diego or Miami. But if they're considering KC and the super bowl will be in KC in 2012 given the roof addition, then they must consider Charlotte.
And MJ didn't like it because there were no hooker for him to bang.
[Edited on August 1, 2006 at 1:29 PM. Reason : .] 8/1/2006 1:29:07 PM |
twolfpack3 All American 2573 Posts user info edit post |
The 'things to do' really isn't a big deal. Charlotte wouldn't be terribly worse than Det, Jax, KC I imagine.
Weather & Hotel capacity are BIG hurdles though. You can't have a SB be blacked out, with innaccessible roads, or have the seats & field covered in ice. If we would Dome/Retract. Roof BOA then we would probably be okay as far as that is concerned. Even just getting a temp. roof could work.
But Charlotte simply doesn't have nearly enough hotel rooms to fill the needs of such an event. Jacksonville had this problem as well. However, Jacksonville was able rent cruise ships to serve as temporary hotel rooms, which is fine. Charlotte can't import 10,000 hotel rooms like Jax can though. And Charlotte would need at least that many more rooms to fill the void. And people coming in for speed week, camp out for the most part. They don't stay in hotels (because they aren't available). SB guests are not going to camp out though.
So it's not a question of why would people come to Charlotte, it's where would they stay. Charlotte barely has enough rooms for speed week (even with most people camping), so why would they be able to handle a super bowl (which would require 50% more rooms). I guess Charlotte could build a new skyscrapper & use it as a hotel for the SB before converting it to office space, but would charlotte really be willing to do that?
[Edited on August 1, 2006 at 1:36 PM. Reason : ] 8/1/2006 1:34:01 PM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
^^and no legalized gambling...
And, i don't know exactly what people would do in charlotte, just like i don't know exactly what they would do in tampa bay, or detroit, or KC, but if i went to a superbowl in any of these cities (including charlotte) i'm sure i could find plenty.
I really don't think that is one of the major concerns for the nfl, its more of the city's prob......the city is the one losing the money if people don't spend.
[Edited on August 1, 2006 at 1:34 PM. Reason : ^] 8/1/2006 1:34:24 PM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " I guess Charlotte could build a new skyscrapper & use it as a hotel for the SB before converting it to office space, but would charlotte really be willing to do that? " |
Quote : | "How does $302 million sound? That’s what the City of Detroit expects Super Bowl XL will bring to town, through hotel and restaurant spending, increased tax revenue" |
more than willing.8/1/2006 1:38:24 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
sNuwpack has never even been to charlotte
hahaha he thinks kansas city and knoxville have more to do? bwahhaha 8/1/2006 1:39:23 PM |
abonorio All American 9344 Posts user info edit post |
KC did have casinos. 8/1/2006 1:40:06 PM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
^ i would say that legalized gambling of some kind is a major plus for a host city.
That we'll never have. 8/1/2006 1:42:35 PM |
Brass Monkey All American 13560 Posts user info edit post |
Charlotte weather in February:
Record High - 82 Record Low - 5 Average High - 56 (that doesn't seem right. i grew up in Charlotte and February was usually cold during the day) Average Low - 30 8/1/2006 1:56:19 PM |
twolfpack3 All American 2573 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Quote : " I guess Charlotte could build a new skyscrapper & use it as a hotel for the SB before converting it to office space, but would charlotte really be willing to do that? "
Quote : "How does $302 million sound? That’s what the City of Detroit expects Super Bowl XL will bring to town, through hotel and restaurant spending, increased tax revenue"
more than willing.
" |
That 302Mil Det. made doesn't go directly to the city, it goes to the local businesses & building such a temporary hotel something like this could cost the city itself a good 100Million (even after selling the actual building after the SB). That would not include at least putting a temporary roof over BOA & all other changes.
But if the Charlotte city council would approve such a measure (pending a SB placed here), then they actually could feasilby host a SB. But Charlotte would never actually be willing to do something like that, because the tax revenue would never come close to what they would actually have to spend.
But hey, if you can get Charlotte to approve something like that, then by all means do so. And Charlotte would have to do something this drastic to ever come close to SB hosting.
[Edited on August 1, 2006 at 2:13 PM. Reason : ]8/1/2006 2:12:12 PM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "That 302Mil Det. made doesn't go directly to the city," |
show me where i said it did................
and if i'm not mistaken, they made a hell of a bid on the nascar hall of fame, essentially high balling every one else out of the running with the tax benefits offered, and just made the uptown bball stadium happen. They seem eager to land big events/attractions. I bet they would bend over backwards to get the SB.8/1/2006 2:20:09 PM |
Waluigi All American 2384 Posts user info edit post |
Detroit has casinos and Windsor, On. across the water w/ even more casinos. Thats why its a tourist destination. 8/1/2006 2:22:32 PM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
see
Quote : | "i would say that legalized gambling of some kind is a major plus for a host city. " |
it might not be far fetched to think that SC may legalize some form of gambling in the future......that would solve one prob.
[Edited on August 1, 2006 at 2:25 PM. Reason : doubt it would ever happen in NC]8/1/2006 2:25:03 PM |
JP All American 16807 Posts user info edit post |
^oh my god, that would be icing on the shitcake for MB 8/1/2006 2:26:25 PM |