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"POLITICAL CLIPPINGS A new Rasmussen Reports poll shows Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman, now an independent candidate, leading Democratic primary winner Ned Lamont in the Connecticut Senate race. Lieberman received support from 46 percent of the 500 voters surveyed versus 41 percent for Lamont. Republican Alan Schlesinger received support from only 6 percent of those polled, down from 13 percent a month ago. The telephone poll was conducted Aug. 9-10, and had a margin of error of plus or minus 4.5 percentage points."

hahahahha FUCKING AWESOME!

8/14/2006 3:10:28 PM

nice inclusion of the (I) in the thread title

8/14/2006 3:12:11 PM

it gave a nice reference to POST primary lieberman so as to not get confused with an old thread that was begun before the primaries.

8/14/2006 3:14:52 PM

and fuck... thread title: liEberman

8/14/2006 3:17:57 PM

at least he isn't pretending to be a democrat anymore

8/14/2006 3:24:11 PM

sample seems small

8/14/2006 3:29:11 PM

Rasmussen knows how to do this shit.

8/14/2006 3:33:33 PM

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"abonorio: it gave a nice reference to POST primary lieberman so as to not get confused with an old thread that was begun before the primaries."

not to shit on this thread, but this snippet right here kind of illustrates the point -- he was ahead in the primary too, right before getting trounced

I don't doubt he can get elected, given the Northeast's penchant for electing "independents", but it's a little too early to put much faith in polls. Let me know what they show after Labor Day, when people start spending money on campaign ads...

8/14/2006 3:36:02 PM

this just illustratest the obvious point that extremes run the parties. You have 200,000 democrats come out and elect the radical left winger. You put the other 1.8m voters in Connecticut on the same plane, it evens out.

[Edited on August 14, 2006 at 3:41 PM. Reason : .]

8/14/2006 3:37:59 PM

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"this just illustratest the obvious point that extremes run the party. You have 200,000 democrats come out and elect the radical left winger. You put the other 1.8m voters in Connecticut on the same plane, it evens out."

I think you can say with a lot of the candidates that the Republican Party coughs up. I know the national party leadership has always had this as a bit of an ulcer, wanting to push a moderate candidate through the primary only to have the state party pull some extremist nutjob out of the woodwork, particularly in states that are traditionally Democratic.

8/14/2006 3:44:40 PM

i never made this a republican/democrat thing. i used the word "party" so we could apply this to both sides.

8/14/2006 3:45:36 PM

Joe Lieberman (Independent)* - (Campaign Site)
Ned Lamont (D) - Businessman, Ex-State Pension Board Member & Ex-Greenwich Selectman
Alan Schlesinger (R) - Ex-State Rep., Ex-Derby Mayor & Attorney
Ralph Ferrucci (Green) - Artist, Truck Driver, '04 Congressional Nominee & '03 Mayor Candidate
John Mertens (Independent Party) - College Professor & Mechanical Engineer
Diana Urban (Independent) - State Rep., College Professor, Economist & Republican


The Green might get more votes than the Republican.

8/14/2006 3:47:02 PM

that so funny!!!!11!!

8/14/2006 3:48:55 PM

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"I think you can say with a lot of the candidates that the Republican Party coughs up. I know the national party leadership has always had this as a bit of an ulcer, wanting to push a moderate candidate through the primary only to have the state party pull some extremist nutjob out of the woodwork, particularly in states that are traditionally Democratic. "

This is what is happening in Rhode Island now with liberal Republican Lincoln Chafee. A conservative is leading him in a primary, but polls show him getting trounced by the Democrat in the general.

8/14/2006 3:49:25 PM

lol @ Ned Lamont being a radical left winger

8/14/2006 3:49:57 PM

was "hahahahha FUCKING AWESOME!" nonpartisan, too?

^But anyone who doesn't like the war is a radical left-winger.

[Edited on August 14, 2006 at 3:51 PM. Reason : .]

8/14/2006 3:50:19 PM

that actually has nothing to do with party. The fact that he lost the primary, the incumbent, and is now leading the first polls for the general election.


that, in and of itself, is fucking awesome.

8/14/2006 3:50:59 PM

I hate Lieberman

8/14/2006 3:51:09 PM

of course you do

8/14/2006 3:51:32 PM

If i were Lamont's campaign guy, his commercials would just be a montage of Lieberman verbally fellatiating Hannity on Fox News.

8/14/2006 3:54:43 PM

sept that never happened. So you would have to get Michael Moore to direct the fake commercials.

8/14/2006 4:01:43 PM

Dude, he's Hannity's "favorite Democrat."

You need to watch more punditry before you try to step to this, B

8/14/2006 4:07:21 PM

oh so is it lieberman felaciating hannity or the other way around?

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"You need to watch more punditry before you try to step to this, B"

8/14/2006 4:27:34 PM

felaciating?
do you mean fellating?

8/14/2006 4:47:54 PM

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"oh so is it lieberman felaciating hannity or the other way around?"

It's both ways.

Keep it partisan, B

8/14/2006 5:25:18 PM

also Colbert's favorite Democrat

8/14/2006 5:44:38 PM

so, remind me again why the dems are against ol' jewy mcjewenstein again...

8/14/2006 9:58:35 PM

He's not as rabidly-far-far-far-left as we would like.

8/14/2006 10:28:57 PM

ahhh. so you guys just want to keep losing elections...

8/14/2006 10:30:46 PM

No, it turns out about 55% of the country is rabidly-far-far-far-left.

8/14/2006 10:35:52 PM

orly? Man, you must win a lot of elections with such a majority.

8/14/2006 10:58:12 PM

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"Rasmussen knows how to do this shit."

Right, right...because Rasmussen was so accurate about the primary election.


Oh wait.

8/14/2006 10:58:34 PM

^^ Given that most Americans are politically independent when asked to articulate their views issue by issue, I have a question for abonorio:

Where's the independent Congress?

8/15/2006 2:58:02 PM

given that most Americans dont vote independent in presidential elections...

8/15/2006 3:01:39 PM

again, you must win so many elections with such a large majority...

8/15/2006 3:11:22 PM

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"when asked to articulate their views issue by issue"

I found the flaw. People are liars. I know most of the people that I know that call themselves independent vote one mostly for one party.

That's the case of most independents...the true "swing vote" is much smaller than the number of those that don't want to associate with either party, but still vote for pretty much all one party.

8/15/2006 3:14:14 PM

big tent

8/15/2006 4:16:49 PM

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"i never made this a republican/democrat thing. i used the word "partyLieberman" so we could apply this to both sides."

8/15/2006 4:17:04 PM

i see what you did there.

8/15/2006 4:17:35 PM

I wasn't attacking btw. Moreso just musing on the ironies of a politically independent majority perpetually electing two different versions of wrong.

8/15/2006 4:20:14 PM

are you that pompous to assume that the country is independent when they elect republican or democrat but never independent?

8/15/2006 4:22:14 PM

Are you that pompous to presume that the country is not independent, and in fact has some semblance of uniformity or even duality of opinion, based on the best evidence available: a self-selected sample of indidviduals who fail to represent 43.3% of Americans?

[Edited on August 15, 2006 at 5:12 PM. Reason : durka durka ONE PARTY SYSTEM]

8/15/2006 4:55:04 PM

"Well, if I were Joe and I was running as an independent, that's what I'd say, too. But that's not quite right. That is, there were almost no Democrats who agreed with his position... His position is the Bush-Cheney-Rumsfeld position."

-Bill Clinton, on Lieberman.

8/15/2006 8:43:43 PM

8/16/2006 11:06:52 PM

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"his just illustratest the obvious point that extremes run the parties. You have 200,000 democrats come out and elect the radical left winger."

What do you mean by a, "radical left winger"? How does Lamont fit your definition...what is your definition?

8/17/2006 3:00:23 AM

anyone left of him is a radical left winger.

8/17/2006 3:25:00 AM