gbofncsu84 New Recruit 25 Posts user info edit post |
fluentive.com is looking for a partner with expertise in PHP, mySQL and Javascript.
My business partner and I are looking to bring on a business partner with the following skills: Currently in school for Computer science degree, or similar concentration Expert knowledge of PHP and HTML programming Expert knowledge of mySQL and database analysis Strong Javascript knowledge Strong verbal and written communication skills Ability to work productively in an independent environment Motivated to enhance our application offering
You will be responsible for leading our development efforts and will be reimbursed through profit from our applications and websites. We are very motivated, passionate and enjoy working on these projects. We have fulltime jobs and work on this in our free time with the intention of taking this business full time. If you share this passion, please email us and visit our website.
Cheers,
Scott http://www.fluentive.com 8/16/2006 1:52:09 AM |
philihp All American 8349 Posts user info edit post |
benefits? 8/16/2006 3:04:44 AM |
Jere Suspended 4838 Posts user info edit post |
define "partner" 8/16/2006 4:22:56 AM |
qntmfred retired 40726 Posts user info edit post |
i love it when people say cheers 8/16/2006 8:03:54 AM |
Bakunin Suspended 8558 Posts user info edit post |
partner = "will work for free" 8/16/2006 8:31:00 AM |
Raige All American 4386 Posts user info edit post |
aka: you get paid after they do. 8/16/2006 8:43:58 AM |
Perlith All American 7620 Posts user info edit post |
Pay? Benefits? Hours? Location? Current Company Profile? Etc? 8/16/2006 8:59:39 AM |
robster All American 3545 Posts user info edit post |
your site said that it gets 10,000 uniques per day... but I dont believe that is true... do you have proof of that? 8/16/2006 8:59:49 AM |
robster All American 3545 Posts user info edit post |
oh ... I guess it is talking about a site that you helped "optimize" ... NM 8/16/2006 9:00:45 AM |
Noen All American 31346 Posts user info edit post |
hahahaahahahah 8/16/2006 9:34:18 AM |
agentlion All American 13936 Posts user info edit post |
so..... it looks like we have 2 business major types who put up a bunch of marketing speek on a slick looking webpage with no actual content, and now they're looking for a programming monkey to do all the real work for pennies with the hope of hitting a home run somehow and collecting all the cash.... gg 8/16/2006 10:02:33 AM |
Noen All American 31346 Posts user info edit post |
Gotta love when business majors graduate and realize they have no actual skills.
And define "slick website", because other than the splash page, its a pretty mediocre website.
Def agree on the marketing doublespeak though, I'm a bit impressed they managed to fluff the entire site like that 8/16/2006 10:27:00 AM |
OmarBadu zidik 25071 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "He has been on top of the Search Engine world since the inception of Google back in 1997, and has been an avid googler since. " |
i'm putting that on my resume from now on8/16/2006 10:58:31 AM |
gbofncsu84 New Recruit 25 Posts user info edit post |
Responses: Definition of partner: Equal member of our team who will be acquiring an equal portion of the profits. Location: We are located in Cary, NC and San Francisco, CA. Either one is fine.
We already have projects in design and are excited about releasing the applications. Please email us at jobs@fluentive.com with your resume, works, and questions for us. We will gladly respond with our credentials.
**We are also looking for contractors for individual projects. Please email us with the same info if you are interested.** 8/16/2006 4:01:01 PM |
Noen All American 31346 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Definition of partner: Equal member of our team who will be acquiring an equal portion of the profits." |
Exactly. One person doing all the production and two others doing all the business/management/marketing is not an equal portion of the work.
Maybe if you cut the developer in 60/40 or 70/30, then that would begin to make some sense.8/16/2006 4:06:01 PM |
jsncc587 Veteran 382 Posts user info edit post |
Its great that you all think developers make and break a business model. You'll soon learn that the "developers" take marching orders from the people that graduate with business degrees with "no skills". Know any hard developers that actually make meaningful production decisions? Developers are easily replaceable cogs in the corporate machine.
I applaud the start up - more power to you. 8/16/2006 7:24:24 PM |
smcrawff Suspended 1371 Posts user info edit post |
Most people in positions of power at tech companies have technical backgrounds. They might also have MBA's, but they have "actual skills." 8/16/2006 7:36:50 PM |
jsncc587 Veteran 382 Posts user info edit post |
^ totally agree; but from a developer level prospective, I stand by my statement above. 8/16/2006 7:43:27 PM |
smcrawff Suspended 1371 Posts user info edit post |
I'm just pointing out that there are a lot of hard developers making meaningful production decisions. 8/16/2006 7:45:35 PM |
Noen All American 31346 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Its great that you all think developers make and break a business model. You'll soon learn that the "developers" take marching orders from the people that graduate with business degrees with "no skills". Know any hard developers that actually make meaningful production decisions? Developers are easily replaceable cogs in the corporate machine. " |
This isn't a corporate machine. This is a startup. And startups are run by developers with business acumen. And yes, damn near every GOOD project manager, salesperson and executive I have ever dealt with has a background in ground level development of some kind. Fortune 500 CEO's back me up on this.
Quote : | "I applaud the start up - more power to you." |
What start-up? What is it they are even doing other than double-speak?
[Edited on August 16, 2006 at 7:58 PM. Reason : .]8/16/2006 7:56:51 PM |
smcrawff Suspended 1371 Posts user info edit post |
[Edited on August 16, 2006 at 8:06 PM. Reason : not worth it]
8/16/2006 8:03:56 PM |
jackleg All American 170957 Posts user info edit post |
i love noen. he called it a startup and not a startup in the same post! 8/16/2006 8:08:12 PM |
Noen All American 31346 Posts user info edit post |
Love you to Travis
Just pisses me off seeing another "We can do the web better" group. I'd wager to bet they've never even heard of a focus group, usability study, performance metrics, web standards, or a myriad of other fundamental elements.
The website is straight out of dreamweaver circa 2002, tables, font tags, not accessible, not compliant. So much for creative innovation.
[Edited on August 16, 2006 at 8:20 PM. Reason : .] 8/16/2006 8:12:49 PM |
smcrawff Suspended 1371 Posts user info edit post |
I feel bad for the guy if he moved out to Silicon Valley and this is the best he can come up with 8/16/2006 8:14:53 PM |
Perlith All American 7620 Posts user info edit post |
gbo, you may have some better luck posting on NCSU's Career Center website and CSC jobs board. You might also want to look up anything the BIT program at VT has to offer. We see posts like this fairly frequently (one or more a month it seems) where a business-oriented individual with a low post count to recruit technical folks.
Quote : | "Its great that you all think " |
Don't make a generalization based off one person's post.
Quote : | "focus group, usability study, performance metrics, web standards, or a myriad of other fundamental elements" |
Oh dear, you said several no-no words. On an off-topic tangent, these can be good and bad. I don't like the way they did Virginia Tech's new website layout (http://www.vt.edu), and I hope NCSU's current redesign doesn't head the same way (http://ncsu.edu/redesign/). Too much focus on marketing to prospective students.8/16/2006 8:41:18 PM |
jackleg All American 170957 Posts user info edit post |
hey whats wrong with tables?
and isnt that why he is looking for someone thats more experienced in web development? guess i just dont get why someone would jump all over the current code. 8/16/2006 8:47:23 PM |
Noen All American 31346 Posts user info edit post |
^^I know a couple of people on the NCSU redesign committee, it won't have any problems being good. No-no words? Are you serious? Who is "they" that did VT's website? Using good practices doesn't ensure a great site in the end, but it's an absolutely critical part of the process for a successful site of any large scale.
^Because they are marketing themselves as something they aren't. Their ENTIRE business is predicated on the abilities of a person that doesn't even exist in the company yet. That's why I'm jumping.
[Edited on August 16, 2006 at 9:32 PM. Reason : and the VT website looks pretty darn good to me, at least the frontpage organization] 8/16/2006 9:29:58 PM |
jackleg All American 170957 Posts user info edit post |
noen-- i looked at the site a little more, and i can see where youre coming from now... its almost like they dont have the first idea of how to accomplish the solutions they are proposing. it really wouldnt look so bad as just a model, but it kinda looks like they are already in operation and passing themselves off as something that they aren't. i'd be interested to see how they respond to technical inquiries.
thats the only major problem i see, though. but without the extra person, it is a major problem - cause its all BS. 8/16/2006 10:26:08 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "so..... it looks like we have 2 business major types who put up a bunch of marketing speek on a slick looking webpage with no actual content, and now they're looking for a programming monkey to do all the real work for pennies with the hope of hitting a home run somehow and collecting all the cash.... gg" |
i was about to post the same thing.
Quote : | "Currently in school for Computer science degree, or similar concentration" |
= cheap + knowledgeable?
http://www.fluentive.com/clients.php It would be helpful if you actually had something here (besides the text from the main page)
Quote : | "and this passion is an incredible asset to our clients. " |
http://www.fluentive.com/clients.php como?
Oh and hey I've got an idea, post the word passion as many times as possible on the bio page.
It might help if your "Featured Project" is capable of being clicked.
I like the lower case company name and diacritic usage...thats pretty cool and trendy looking.
gl with it tho, looks like you're on to something big.
[Edited on August 16, 2006 at 10:45 PM. Reason : ]8/16/2006 10:42:03 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
I like the colored pencils 8/17/2006 1:43:31 AM |
scottncst8 All American 2318 Posts user info edit post |
this is a great idea
about 8 years ago 8/17/2006 7:49:27 AM |