amac884 All American 25609 Posts user info edit post |
anyone still care about/remember this?
http://www.wral.com/news/9690214/detail.html 8/16/2006 6:06:31 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
was she killed by an "Islamic-fascist"?
if not, then no. 8/16/2006 6:17:57 PM |
TGD All American 8912 Posts user info edit post |
^ ftw 8/16/2006 7:00:15 PM |
bgmims All American 5895 Posts user info edit post |
I always blamed the dad...Now I must admit wrong...maybe OJ IS innocent 8/16/2006 7:33:21 PM |
DeputyDog All American 2059 Posts user info edit post |
I say someone was just lookin to be on tv. 8/16/2006 8:04:45 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
10 years later the guy gets caught
DNA technology is amazing 8/17/2006 9:48:19 AM |
abonorio All American 9344 Posts user info edit post |
the former wife of this creep said she was with him the whole night of the murder. She says that he couldn't have killed her.
Hmm... this could get interesting. What a nasty, nasty dude though. 8/17/2006 9:52:52 AM |
Gamecat All American 17913 Posts user info edit post |
8/17/2006 3:52:39 PM |
nutsmackr All American 46641 Posts user info edit post |
why was this ever national news? 8/17/2006 4:02:02 PM |
Shaggy All American 17820 Posts user info edit post |
Rich white girl got killed on a slow news day. 8/17/2006 4:25:19 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
kinda fucked up too that Jon Benet's mom died like a month or so ago and didn't get to see any of this potential "closure" 8/17/2006 4:28:50 PM |
ParksNrec All American 8742 Posts user info edit post |
It would be more fucked up if she had paid off this guy to kill the daughter and got off scott free. 8/17/2006 4:38:40 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
that it would 8/17/2006 4:42:28 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
even more fucked up if it turned out that Scott Peterson was the real killer 8/17/2006 4:43:38 PM |
bgmims All American 5895 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "why was this ever national news?" |
Because it was a child-rape and murder that the parents were widely suspected of being involved in. Fucked up shit like that always makes the news.8/17/2006 4:48:30 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missing_White_Girl_Syndrome 8/17/2006 5:22:13 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
OK, even though she wasn't killed by "Islamic-fascists", I am getting interested in this.
Man, this is really eerie:
[Just read the bolded parts and around them]
Report: Karr says Patsy Ramsey read his letters
Quote : | "BANGKOK, Thailand (AP) -- The suspect in the slaying of JonBenet Ramsey said he loved the 6-year-old beauty queen "very much" and is "very sorry for what happened."
In an exclusive interview with The Associated Press, John Mark Karr said that he contacted JonBenet's mother, Patsy, before she died of cancer in June to express his remorse for the killing.
"I conveyed to her many things, among them that I am so very sorry for what happened to JonBenet," Karr said as U.S. and Thai authorities escorted him from his Bangkok hotel, where he spent over an hour packing his belongings.
Karr said it was his understanding that Patsy Ramsey read letters that he sent to her. He said JonBenet's death was "an accident."
"It's very important for me that everyone knows that I love her very much and that her death was unintentional," said Karr, who sweated and stuttered occasionally as he spoke in a quiet voice.
Karr, 41, was arrested Wednesday,far from Boulder, Colorado, where JonBenet's body was found beaten and strangled in her parent's basement on December 26, 1996.
He declined to disclose the nature of his supposed relationship to the Ramsey family or how he may have known JonBenet.
Asked for details of how she died, Karr replied: "It would take several hours to describe -- to describe that."
"There's no way I could be brief about it. It's a very involved series of events," said Karr, who speaks with a Southern accent. "It's very painful for me to talk about."
Earlier in the day, Karr spoke briefly to reporters after a news conference by American and Thai authorities.
"I was with JonBenet when she died," he told reporters. Asked if he was innocent, he said: "No."
Karr will be taken within the week to Colorado, where he will face charges of first-degree murder, kidnapping and child sexual assault, said Ann Hurst of the Department of Homeland Security, one of several officials who accompanied the suspect back to his hotel.
In the run-up to Karr's arrest, U.S. authorities had rented rooms at The Blooms, the budget hotel where Karr was staying in a central Bangkok neighborhood of massage parlors and travel agencies catering to expatriates and sex tourists.
The hotel offers rooms for as little as three hours -- for $8 -- and monthly stays starting at $170.
Karr was staying on the top floor of the nine-story hotel in a small single room.
U.S. and Thai authorities wearing plastic gloves sorted through his possessions, which were wheeled away on a luggage rack, and included a laptop computer and two suitcases.
Dressed in a baggy turquoise polo shirt and khaki pants, Karr said that JonBenet's death was "not what it seems to be," though he declined to elaborate.
"In every way," he added, as authorities bundled him into a waiting vehicle. "It's not at all what it seems to be."" |
WHAT SHOULD ONE MAKE OF THIS???
Those bolded statements by him make it sound completely bizarre.8/17/2006 8:09:22 PM |
Gamecat All American 17913 Posts user info edit post |
My guess, honestly, is that they were somehow involved in the sex slave trade, which could've led to her death in any number of plausible scenarios.
It's a lot more active in the United States than most are aware. 8/17/2006 8:12:58 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
Some people are suggesting that he didn't do it, and is faking it for whatever reason. Here is something that lends credence to that:
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/local/article/0,1299,DRMN_15_4923180,00.html
Quote : | "Around 2001, John Karr and his family moved to California. Around that same time, Karr also began doing research for a book he wanted to write about men who commit crimes against girls, Nate Karr said. He believes the research, which included reviewing police and coroner reports about the JonBenet murder, may have been what landed his brother in trouble.
"He was trying to get in as in-depth as he could, to not only this case but to other cases as well. It wasn't . . . something that he was like obsessed with the JonBenet Ramsey case. He was researching multiple incidences," Nate Karr said.
"That is the only possible way that we think that he could have been brought into this, because, of course, there is going to be no physical evidence. If they do in fact have DNA at the scene, please test him immediately so he can be vindicated." " |
8/17/2006 8:21:59 PM |
Prawn Star All American 7643 Posts user info edit post |
He wanted to get extradited out of Thailand 8/17/2006 9:02:09 PM |
3 of 11 All American 6276 Posts user info edit post |
^ Our prisons are like a resort compared to theres
1 - Get extradited back to US to avoid some pedo charge in Thailand 2 - Get case dismessed on technicality, or just admit you made the whole thing up 3 - 4 - Profit 8/17/2006 11:28:57 PM |
BridgetSPK #1 Sir Purr Fan 31378 Posts user info edit post |
This is unreal. I totally had this pinned on the parents.
So many fucking angles involved right now. I shouldn't say unreal. I should say that this is fucking wild.
It's completely unexpected. I suspect Bush and company fabricated this as a distractor. LOL
[Edited on August 18, 2006 at 12:01 AM. Reason : sss] 8/17/2006 11:59:57 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
apparently a lot of holes in the guys story...like he said he picked jon benet up from school the day she died but apparently it happened over her christmas break...and he said he drugged her to have sex with her but autopsy showed no drugs...and he says the murder was an accident but her skull was crushed and she was strangled in addition... 8/18/2006 9:49:00 AM |
spöokyjon ℵ 18617 Posts user info edit post |
Well, accidents like that happen when you're drugging and raping a child, I guess.
But, yeah, I don't think he did it. He's a sick fucker either way. But if he did do it, I woudn't put it past him to say to the end of his days that it was an accident or "she made me do it" or some other sick shit. 8/18/2006 10:13:52 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
oh i dont really see anything unusual about claiming it was an accident
but the parts of the story that dont match up like christmas break/school, drugged her/no drugs in autopsy, etc 8/18/2006 10:14:49 AM |
smcrawff Suspended 1371 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I woudn't put it past him to say to the end of his days that it was an accident or "she made me do it"" |
Well her parents were dressing her inappropriately, and we all know that its up to the victim to make sure they dress so as not to draw attention to themselves8/18/2006 10:20:51 AM |
EarthDogg All American 3989 Posts user info edit post |
Has anyone seen Calif ex-Gov Gray Davis lately? 8/18/2006 11:54:16 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
case over
his dna didn't match that on the girl's body. charges have been dropped.
but, he is to be brought up on charges of child pornography from 2001 which he evaded at that time by leaving the country.
still, i don't get why he said he did it. some people are saying to get out of potential jailing in thailand, but i don't remember reading anywhere that he was in trouble in thailand.
also, you can see the main story on cnn, bbc, etc, but they don't say one thing: did HE say anything after the dna didn't match, like "got you suckers" or "thanks for the free plane ride", or "i am my own twin, that's why the dna didn't match"*** etc. shouldn't he be charged with making false statements?
*** what IF it really IS that possibility? (see http://abcnews.go.com/Primetime/story?id=2315693 ) 8/28/2006 9:58:34 PM |
Jere Suspended 4838 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/08/28/ramsey.arrest/index.html
asphyxiation 8/28/2006 10:12:30 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "He claimed to be sexually involved with the child, including "temporarily asphyxiating her," the court papers said.
'Lost track of time'
And, he said he "had 'accidentally' killed her by becoming so sexually involved that he lost track of time so that the asphyxiation lasted longer than he intended, causing her severe injury and leading him to inflict a severe blow to her head," the document stated." |
John Karr: 'I loved JonBenet'
Loved = desired sexually
But anyway, he is not involved. But really, it is frustrating not to know what he said or if he said anything after the police told him and the world that he was not involved. I mean, he MUST have said something, right? Also, why aren't they prosecuting him for making false statements and wasting the police's time and money?8/28/2006 11:49:06 PM |
spöokyjon ℵ 18617 Posts user info edit post |
They have said that they will probably charge him with providing false testimony or something like that. Be patient, he's not going anywhere. 8/28/2006 11:54:47 PM |
Jere Suspended 4838 Posts user info edit post |
that is one of the creepiest looking fuckers yet 8/29/2006 12:00:26 AM |
bous All American 11215 Posts user info edit post |
he'll get a slap on the wrist for what he did.
he's a smart mother fucker.
got him out of Thai prison 8/29/2006 1:13:09 AM |
timswar All American 41050 Posts user info edit post |
msnbc said he's getting shipped to another area of the US and charged with child pornography... i doubt he's going to get a slap on the wrist for that... althoguh he does have a good insanity plea at this point... he's put u pa nice front of being unstable..
[Edited on August 29, 2006 at 8:56 AM. Reason : .] 8/29/2006 8:56:15 AM |
CharlieEFH All American 21806 Posts user info edit post |
whatever he gets here will be a slap on the wrist compared to staying in Thailand
he's either a really smart creepy dude or someone gave him the opportunity of a lifetime 8/29/2006 8:32:28 PM |
jwb9984 All American 14039 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "althoguh he does have a good insanity plea at this point... he's put u pa nice front of being unstable.." |
no he doesn't
look up the legal definition of insanity8/29/2006 11:42:34 PM |