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8/25/2006 10:27:39 PM

Any disagreements with world rankings guys?

http://www.mmafighting.com/columns/topten/8_june_2006.html


Cuz i sure as hell do!

8/25/2006 11:53:06 PM

Jim Lampley disagrees with this thread

8/26/2006 1:18:27 AM

Jim Lampley can suck a fat one, why he is so virulently against MMA is beyond me...nobody disrespects boxing, the MMA world respects it as a martial art

Heavyweight I agree with...im not gonna act like i know all these guys but i agree with most of the rest of the division break downs

I think Tito should be above Quinton Jackson, he lost alot of his steam that he used to have

its sad that Forrest Griffin is up there, I love to watch the guy fight and hes good at it, but certainly not the best in the world, its just the world's weakest division apparently since he didnt even get a vote

I dont see how Wanderlei is above chuck pound for pound but chuck is ranked higher in his weight class

I personally dont like rankings, all the organizations have different rules and rankings are nothing to get tied up in if you ask me...but they are fun

[Edited on August 26, 2006 at 3:10 AM. Reason : ']

8/26/2006 2:57:47 AM

In the LHW div I think it should be

wanderlei
Quinton
Chuck
Tito

Based on who beat who, thats how it falls. I honestly don't know how in the hell their pt system works

8/26/2006 3:37:37 AM

well Tito beat Wanderlei

8/26/2006 3:41:47 AM

^damn, thats right?!!? wanderlei def quintion 2x, quinton def chuck 2x, chuck def tito (that second fight should prove some thing) and tito def wanderlei. Thats why we need wanderlei v chuck!!

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"its sad that Forrest Griffin is up there"

I know right?!?! wtf

8/26/2006 3:44:40 AM

Hhmmmm... yeah fuck those ratings.

pound-for-pound MATT HUGHES

8/26/2006 10:25:25 AM

pound-for-pound MATT HUGHES Georges St. Pierre, BJ Penn, Takanori Gomi, Kid Yamamoto

8/26/2006 10:38:29 AM

Im still waitin for Vitor Belfort to get back on a roll

and I didnt know that Allistair Overeem moved to heavyweight

[Edited on August 26, 2006 at 12:36 PM. Reason : f]

8/26/2006 12:35:15 PM

Tito beat Wandy 6 years ago. Silva wasn't the same fighter then that he is now.

8/26/2006 12:36:28 PM

yea but nobody is the same fighter they were 6 years ago if they are still fighting

thats why i never take that argument seriously, because it works both ways

Anyone watchin UFC 62 tonight? Dont forget Hooters shows the PPV free I have a feeling this one is gonna be a great PPV

[Edited on August 26, 2006 at 12:41 PM. Reason : f]

8/26/2006 12:38:29 PM

What I meant is Silva today would beat the Tito of today or 6 years ago or any point in between.

I might check out UFC 62 tonight at Hooters, but I gotta say that this is probably one of the weakest fight cards I've ever seen for a PPV.

[Edited on August 26, 2006 at 1:18 PM. Reason : .]

8/26/2006 1:17:41 PM

matchups my friends, matchups

id definitely rather watch for free and mabe see less than exciting fights then wake up the next morning to "DUDE DID YOU SEE TTHAT PPV LAST NIGHT!!?!! O MAN YOU FUCKED UP"

8/26/2006 1:45:24 PM

Would you really be that disappointed about possibly missing a fight between a couple of palookas like Griffin and Bonnar though? If I want to watch 2 guys throwing punches at each other with reckless abandon (which is why people are even interested in Griffin vs. Bonnar 2) then I can just go to youtube and watch some bumfights or something.

8/26/2006 2:16:45 PM

hah but i dont see it being the same fight, bonnar is going to be a little smarter than that..yea i actually love to see the fights go to the ground way more than a stand up war because i have a wrestling background

WAIT AND SEE

btw fighforum.com has E-betting (no NCAA violations here ) here are my bets...some of the fights i have no idea of who the fighters are i just put 50 on a random one of the 2 and 25 on the other

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"Your vBookie Bets Event Group Outcome Status Stake Odds Amount Won UFC 62 Bets Thread | Info UFC Belcher defeats Okami OPEN 25 3/2 (1.50) - UFC 62 Bets Thread | Info UFC Okami defeats Belcher OPEN 50 5/9 (0.56) - UFC 62 Bets Thread | Info UFC Schafer defeats MacDonald OPEN 25 3/2 (1.50) - UFC 62 Bets Thread | Info UFC MacDonald defeats Schafer OPEN 50 5/9 (0.56) - UFC 62 Bets Thread | Info UFC Walmsley defeats Heath OPEN 50 7/4 (1.75) - UFC 62 Bets Thread | Info UFC Heath defeats Walmsley OPEN 25 20/43 (0.47) - UFC 62 Bets Thread | Info UFC Gouveia defeats Combs OPEN 150 1/1 (1.00) - UFC 62 Bets Thread | Info UFC Combs defeats Gouveia OPEN 5 10/13 (0.77) - UFC 62 Bets Thread | Info UFC Neer defeats Diaz OPEN 70 8/5 (1.60) - UFC 62 Bets Thread | Info UFC Diaz defeats Neer OPEN 200 1/2 (0.50) - UFC 62 Bets Thread | Info UFC Varner defeats Franca OPEN 25 7/2 (3.50) - UFC 62 Bets Thread | Info UFC Franca defeats Varner OPEN 100 2/11 (0.18) - UFC 62 Bets Thread | Info UFC Wellisch defeats Kongo OPEN 50 6/5 (1.20) - UFC 62 Bets Thread | Info UFC Kongo defeats Wellisch OPEN 25 2/3 (0.67) - UFC 62 Bets Thread | Info UFC Bonnar defeats Griffin OPEN 200 43/20 (2.15) - UFC 62 Bets Thread | Info UFC Griffin defeats Bonnar OPEN 75 4/11 (0.36) - UFC 62 Bets Thread | Info UFC Sobral defeats Liddell OPEN 180 5/2 (2.50) - UFC 62 Bets Thread | Info UFC Liddell defeats Sobral OPEN 200 4/13 (0.31) - "

[Edited on August 26, 2006 at 3:20 PM. Reason : l]

8/26/2006 3:13:51 PM

Worst card ever.

8/26/2006 3:18:15 PM

well look out for Hermes Franca, Wilson Gouveia, Neer, and Nick Diaz

those guys are all excellent fighters, and if this macdonald is the macdonald im thinking of, hes reallly good also

so i dont think it will be such a bad pay per view, the worse thing UFC can do is only show 5 fights again, thats bullshit they spend too much time hyping fights during the PPV that we are already going to be watching

8/26/2006 3:22:49 PM

so who is paying for the fight tonight and wants to let me come watch it for free?

8/26/2006 5:35:31 PM

hooters

8/26/2006 5:35:50 PM

Yea im going to the Hooters on Wake Forest Rd at around 8 if yall wanna join up
(it is paramount that you get there early)

8/26/2006 5:37:05 PM

it starts at 10, right?

8/26/2006 5:38:33 PM

yea 10 homes

i mean you can come later, but u might be standing for 30 or so minutes before a seat frees up

8/26/2006 5:39:21 PM

Im pretty positive the Buffalo Wild Wings in Garner is also showing the ppv tonight for free.

8/26/2006 5:49:04 PM

it is i looked it up on the UFC website

8/26/2006 5:54:33 PM

I'll be hittin up the hooters as well.

8/26/2006 6:30:06 PM

well i think a bunch of us are goin to the one in morrisville

8/26/2006 6:32:49 PM

Not the one on Wake Forest anymore?

8/26/2006 6:35:04 PM

they said the airport one has more and bigger screens

8/26/2006 6:37:18 PM

I won't be able to make it to a hooters' or anywhere tonight guys. So I want good non-biased reviews out of you who will attend. This means you too BigHitSunday cuz I know you're an Iceman fan!!

8/26/2006 6:45:08 PM

you can cout on a non-biased review from me as long as you know where my biases lie

im a lot slower to call a fight shitty than most, i like alot of the fights that seem boring to most fans

but as far as being biased in evaluating a fighter's performance, nah I call a spade a spade

8/26/2006 7:00:54 PM

Good show last night.. far exceeded my expectations

8/27/2006 1:49:14 PM

agreed

very good PPV too bad i was sitting next to a pride nuthugger the entire night

i mean can a nigga just enjoy the show?

8/27/2006 3:14:29 PM

Ive been told Pride Bushido is on fsn RIGHT NOW..I dont have access to a TV yet

nvm im gonna make access

[Edited on August 27, 2006 at 8:17 PM. Reason : f]

8/27/2006 8:17:28 PM

sweet pride highlights show on 50(fsn?) right now...just showing a bunch of 1st round knockouts from over the years

8/28/2006 12:47:52 PM

btw in case you were in a loud ass bar and missed these gems from forrest griffin postfight.while the crowd booed..here they are

the kid is funny as fuck how can the crowd boo him OR that fight

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"Quote: "Their booing me! .... come on!" Quote: "Hey guys come on I got low self esteem whats going on here" Quote: "Did I really not win that fight .. I thought I did" Quote: "I didn't think I won it 30-27 I'm pretty sure stephan won the second round I was scoring it myself" Quote: "Guys come on we're trying Gimme some love" Quote: Joe - "How long before we think we see you challening for the title" Forrest - "All right did you see .. hold on let me replay .. did you see this (swings arms over his head with head down over and over) See that" Joe - "No no I missed that" Forrest - "when I quit doing that thats when I'll be ready" Quote: -During View Of Replay- "Hey I want you guys to know that I had a inflamed vagina for this fight" Quote: "thats me charging wildly protecting myself by ducking" Quote: "Hey stephan you should really think about kneeing me in the head cause I'm gonna run face down at you for five miinutes" __________________"

[Edited on August 28, 2006 at 7:19 PM. Reason : d]

8/28/2006 7:18:59 PM

it had me rolling.....how can you not like a funny guy like that

8/28/2006 7:45:13 PM

he and bonnar are both great guys

also, here is a rumored UFC 63 card

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"-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -Matt Hughes vs. BJ Penn for the UFC Welterweight Title -David Loiseau vs. Mike Swick -Jens Pulver vs. Joe Lauzon -Jason Lambert vs. Rashad Evans -Melvin Guillard vs. Gabe Ruediger -Jorge Gurgel vs. Danny Abaddi -Roger Huerta vs. Jason Reinhardt"

This is lookin to be GOOOD if its names youre lookin for there are the names right there

[Edited on August 28, 2006 at 7:49 PM. Reason : r]

8/28/2006 7:48:10 PM

should be a hell of a card

8/28/2006 7:55:44 PM

^^ WOW

8/28/2006 8:16:45 PM

yea for real, i hope that card doesnt change!

8/28/2006 8:19:39 PM

UFC fuckin sux!!!

guys are a bunch of pussies

[Edited on August 28, 2006 at 8:29 PM. Reason : .]

8/28/2006 8:27:45 PM

are you one of those Pride Nuthuggers?

I love Pride and all, and i love Pride fans but the nuthuggers have got to stop

8/28/2006 8:30:51 PM

the pride fighters are better dude. they're elite. these ufc guys are soo hollywood

place the best fighters from ufc in to pride and see what happens. pride will dominate every class

except for m hughes!!

8/28/2006 8:59:46 PM

next to tim sylvia, i think matt hughes is the only one that might lose actually

8/28/2006 10:20:24 PM

are u a ufc cock sucker?

8/28/2006 10:25:36 PM

no, but being realistic Pride isnt that much ahead of UFC

their heavyweight division buries ours but thats it

I respect both organizations and i dont go around spouting the dumb shit you and the rest of the nuthuggers do...i enjoy the sport when the showdown happens (and i cant wait for it) itll happen

8/28/2006 10:27:22 PM

what showdown???

i know yo black ass aint talkin bout pride v ufc?!?!

pride already won that one buddy!! all of the ufc poster boys got murdered including chucky

face it, you know pride is better!!!

8/28/2006 10:46:15 PM

what better way to prove a point than to bring up 3 year old fights

rock solid

im not trying to defend an organization here and you're entitled to your opinion, im just gonna wait for the showdown

[Edited on August 28, 2006 at 10:50 PM. Reason : n]

8/28/2006 10:49:21 PM

you make your point by bringing up no fights

what is this showdown that you speak of?

[Edited on August 28, 2006 at 10:51 PM. Reason : .]

8/28/2006 10:51:15 PM