whiner there is as a college coach?

in an N&O article today he is telling everyone that Akron is allowed to have non-qualifiers on their team b/c the MAC allows their schools to take those kids. He was saying that those kids make a big difference. The article says that they had three last year and ONE this year. I don't care if they have 10 of them, it doesn't seem to bother all of the other teams that beat Akron most every week outside of their conference.

http://www.newsobserver.com/122/story/485335.html

this article just upsets me b/c it makes it shows Amato whining the entire time, trying to defend the program.

i wish he would just one time do what i just saw art shell do on sportscenter in his postgame: "I didn't not prepare my team well enough to play the Chargers today and I take responsibility for that" he has never done that. he always tries to defend the program after every loss and say how good the other team was.

9/12/2006 10:12:38 AM

Okay this is pretty ridiculous on his part. I think the 3-4 partial qualifiers they have are offset by the multimillion dollar facilities we have that help attract 4 star qualifiers.

On the other hand, I am gaining more respect for Chuck.

If i were him I would have thrown Marcus Stone under the bus by now just to take the heat off me.

9/12/2006 10:16:11 AM

chuck is a joke. that article made him look like an absolute moron and all they did was quote him and reference facts to his statements.

9/12/2006 10:18:12 AM

I didn't even though that the MAC allowed partial qualifiers b/c I had never heard another coach say anything about it or complain about it before. It didn't seem to bother Penn St. when they beat them by 20; and we know that PSU isn't all that great b/c of what happened against Notre Dame.

either way, if Akron had beat PSU I seriously doubt you would have heard Joe Pa after the game say that it wasn't fair b/c all of the partial qualifiers that they have made a difference.

9/12/2006 10:22:36 AM

FOR CHRIST SAKE AMATO ADMIT YOU DIDNT DO YOUR JOB THIS WEEK FOR FUCKS SAKE

9/12/2006 10:27:43 AM

Quote :

"FOR CHRIST SAKE AMATO ADMIT YOU DIDNT DO YOUR JOB THIS ANY WEEK FOR FUCKS SAKE"

9/12/2006 10:28:24 AM

chuck always blasts the partial qualifier rule

9/12/2006 10:28:41 AM

if you dont have to havea a subscription, go to packpride.com and listen to the audio with chuck.


Fast forward to 15 minutes and listen to the questions that were asked. It was Chip Alexander from the N & blow and he fucking baited him with a question, chuck answered it in the only way possible to not look like he was disrespecting his opponent... chip kept asking the same question cause chuck didnt want to answer, and chuck finally gave him what he wanted.

Chuck sounds like a dick a little, and he shouldnt have brought up partial qualifiers, but when you here how the questions were asked you cant blame him for what he did. It was totally absurd that a reporter could ask questions in such a manor.

9/12/2006 10:30:26 AM

what question was asked? ^

9/12/2006 10:31:38 AM

As if the guys on our team are leading academicians.

Pot/Kettle

[Edited on September 12, 2006 at 10:31 AM. Reason : upChuck]

9/12/2006 10:31:38 AM

They played it on 620 this morning and Chuck sounded like a studdering idiot looking for excuses. "Our facility hasn't been around for 20 years guys"---yeah well it has had several nice additions that have been around for a couple of years, like the Murphy center.

9/12/2006 10:35:19 AM

it is sad that you can pick out all of these quotes from one article

i bet be made some big donors happy talking about the fact that the facilities that they gave all of their money for can't make a big diff. in recruiting yet b/c they have only been around a couple of years

9/12/2006 10:38:25 AM

http://www.brentroad.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=427930
old

9/12/2006 10:39:03 AM

i came here in the fall of 03.

03 season - with philip rivers we have a mediocre season for what its worth, go to the tangerine bowl wreck shit end of story. immediately i begin to question amato as a coach.

04 season - dont even make a fuckin bowl game. amato knew damn well philip wasnt gonna be here forever and showed me he was very unprepared, which is absolutelyfuckinridiculous.

05 season - with a top defensive unit in the country manage the meineke car care bowl with another lackluster season. this is mostly because of issues at the qb position.

chuck has had 5-6 years to recruit a quality qb from a year or 2 before phil left up until now, and we havent seen shit. with nearly every team ive seen under chuck (minus 02) we have expended energy recruiting on only one side of the ball and god knows if chuck even does any coaching (from what ive heard from his own players, he doesnt do much).


weve put up with this shit for way too long. we have so much unused talent, and i dont know if these guys werent right for college football, or if our coaching staff fucking sucks, but something isnt right, and hasnt been for a few years. somehow chuck bullshits from interview to interview and gets away with it and saves his job. its bullshit. chuck amato is a joke and a poor reflection on this university.







[Edited on September 12, 2006 at 10:48 AM. Reason : .]

9/12/2006 10:40:45 AM

your problem is you came here in the fall of 03. you have no concrete base to argue anything.

9/12/2006 10:57:11 AM

your problem is you came here in the fall of 03. you have no concrete base to argue anything.

9/12/2006 10:58:43 AM

cockriderz

9/12/2006 11:00:59 AM

Quote :

"what question was asked?"

Chip said something along the lines of "you said you shouldnt lose to a team like Akron at home"


Chuck replied "I never said that"


Chip: Should you?
Chuck: Whats that suppsed to mean? A lot of teams might lose to Akron before the end of the year, ask me again at the end of the season.

Chip: bash bash bash bait bash bait bash you shouldnt lose to Akron at home
Chuck: they're in a good league, they're a conference champion, they went to a bowl last year.
Chip: bash bait bash bait you shouldnt lose to Akron at home
Chuck: Their conference allows non qualifiers....you know what kind of players non qualifiers are? Their GPA is inversely proportional to their skill level. Just a few can make a big difference, there are very good players that dont qualify by NCAA rules. (he was saying this to get across the point that Akron has very good players and they're a good team, so stfu chip!)
Chip: bash bait bash bait mumble jumble
Chuck: we should not have lost that game, I wont say that we shouldnt lose to a team like Akron.





Thats basically how it went, chuck was mad, but was very composed, didnt hesitate to give responses like he already knew what chip was going to say, and didnt really sound stupid when he gave the response like he does sometimes when he tries to get out of a question. I think the whole point is that he tried to answer without disrespecting Akron, then he brought up non qualifiers to shut up chip. Sure enough, chip writes about it.

9/12/2006 11:01:22 AM

haha so i can watch a team full of talent falter with my own eyes for 3 years straight and not be able to say shit?? im in my 4th year here and really didnt wanna see this shit in my last year as a student

9/12/2006 11:01:40 AM

well ive been here since i was born


you can not make a case that we are a better coached team now than we were before amato got here, nor can you even say that we are coached as well now as we were his first two years

its all about the assistants


doesnt anyone remember when he used to say, "we dont have fsu talent here, we have to win with discipline."

and we did

we outcoached other schools, and we had more discipline than other schools.


where did it go?

9/12/2006 11:01:58 AM

Quote :

"haha so i can watch a team full of talent falter with my own eyes for 3 years straight and not be able to say shit?? im in my 4th year here and really didnt wanna see this shit in my last year as a student"

and I've seen a lot worse

now shut the fuck up

It's a rebuilding year. We aren't FSU or miami yet. We have to rebuild. Other programs reload.

Quote :

"you can not make a case that we are a better coached team now than we were before amato got here, nor can you even say that we are coached as well now as we were his first two years"

We did get rid of the bad assistants. Diaz, Barry and Mazzone. I still think we might have a hangover from some of the worse coaches.

[Edited on September 12, 2006 at 11:05 AM. Reason : .]

9/12/2006 11:04:36 AM

I just read the article....not as bad as I thought considering the questions were asked in an antagonistic way. I highly recommend listening to the audio on packpride.



http://northcarolinastate.scout.com/2/567085.html

[Edited on September 12, 2006 at 11:07 AM. Reason : here, its free ]

9/12/2006 11:06:43 AM

Chip Alexander is a joke. he's been a thorn in the side of NC State for many years now.

9/12/2006 11:07:25 AM

oh wow youve seen worse. i saw us lose to akron. i dont care what YOUVE seen, that shit pisses me off. if this is a rebuilding year, then what were the last 2 years?

[Edited on September 12, 2006 at 11:14 AM. Reason : .]

9/12/2006 11:08:48 AM

two years where we had a shitty quarterback



now we dont have a defense to go along with our shitty quarterback

9/12/2006 11:09:35 AM

years in which we had a defense but no offense.

What expectations do you have? Do you think we should get a national championship? Win the ACC every year? What are your expectations.

Get back to me when you witness the team beat Texas one week then lose to Baylor the next.

9/12/2006 11:10:34 AM

if this is a rebuilding year, than what were the last 2 years?

9/12/2006 11:12:07 AM

i expected chuck, just as any other coach would, to recruit and develop a quality quarterback behind phil. that way when we had a sicknasty defense, we probably would have done better than 6-5. im not asking for a national championship, but some sort of progress, and in 3 years we have made none.

[Edited on September 12, 2006 at 11:15 AM. Reason : .]

9/12/2006 11:13:45 AM

i think we have a pretty damned good QB


unfortunately, he's a glorified waterboy at the moment

9/12/2006 11:14:57 AM

to chuck's defense in QB recruiting...he had Brent Schaeffer lined up to come in as soon as Rivers left. He did a good job recruiting that guy. Schaeffer screwed us and went to TN...so we got stuck w/ Davis and Stone.

9/12/2006 11:15:19 AM

well, not every recruit pans out. Just ask Jay Davis and Marcus Stone.

Chuck has learned the leason though. That's why we brought in Burke, Beck, Cox, and wilson

Quote :

"im not asking for a national championship, but some sort of progress, and in 3 years we have made none."

you are looking at it on the microlevel. Look at the macrolevel. In my years here, I've witness large improvments.

[Edited on September 12, 2006 at 11:17 AM. Reason : .]

9/12/2006 11:16:23 AM

sure, but part of recruiting your star guy is showing him that he's gonna be "the guy". How secure is he gonna be about coming to your school if you're signing another 4 star QB too?

Look at what Lowe's doing with Chris Wright...he's putting all his eggs in that basket in hopes that it will show Wright that Lowe wants to make him "the guard".

9/12/2006 11:18:40 AM

Quote :

"We did get rid of the bad assistants. Diaz, Barry and Mazzone. I still think we might have a hangover from some of the worse coaches."

you didnt answer my question

but ill ask you another one for you to skip


why did the good ones leave?

you know, the ones that got the most out of that "NONFSU talent?"

9/12/2006 11:19:10 AM

Quote :

"why did the good ones leave? you know, the ones that got the most out of that "NONFSU talent?""

like who? chow, Holliday?

chow left to be near the family and took a large step up

Holliday went to Florida and took a large step up.

And sure there were issues of ego where chuck clashed with certain coaches, but that's to be expected.

Quote :

"sure, but part of recruiting your star guy is showing him that he's gonna be "the guy". How secure is he gonna be about coming to your school if you're signing another 4 star QB too? Look at what Lowe's doing with Chris Wright...he's putting all his eggs in that basket in hopes that it will show Wright that Lowe wants to make him "the guard"."

Football recruiting is different than basketball recruiting.

[Edited on September 12, 2006 at 11:21 AM. Reason : .]

9/12/2006 11:20:31 AM

my macrolevel is firing chuck. there are too many negatives. for example, he avoids personally taking blame in any loss weve ever had as much as possible. he seems like a liar and a douchebag, id rather have someone up there that isnt stuttering, stammering, looking for excuses, and takes responsibility for losing to akron.

[Edited on September 12, 2006 at 11:23 AM. Reason : .]

9/12/2006 11:22:53 AM

buddy green to navy???

explain why a guy who gave up a head coaching job to come back here left for navy

9/12/2006 11:23:08 AM

peanut butter is different than jelly

9/12/2006 11:23:14 AM

Quote :

"your problem is you came here in the fall of 03. you have no concrete base to argue anything."

yeah, it's your fucking fault for being born after bobbydigital and nutsmackr.

9/12/2006 11:23:50 AM

I came in when Amato came in. I have family members that have played with Chuck and family memebers that have played with Sheridan, plus hearing from players with the aforementioned coaches (not just those related to me)---it has gone downhill since he's been here. Chuck needs to go. Head coaching is a lot harder than he thought.

[Edited on September 12, 2006 at 11:28 AM. Reason : .]

9/12/2006 11:24:20 AM

9/12/2006 11:24:52 AM

Norm Chow (2000)
* Served one year as OC/QB coach under Amato
* Resigned to take similar job at Southern Cal

Cary Gadette (2000)
* Pretty sure he was fired after coaching at State from 1996-2000, the final season under Amato (first four seasons under MOC)
* Resurfaced as DL coach at Western Carolina (D1AA)

DC Buddy Green (2000-01)
* Served two seasons under Amato
* Resigned from NCST to take similar DC job at Navy

QB Mike Canales (2001-02)
* Served two years under Amato
* Resigned from NCST to take WR coach position with NY Jets

DB Coach Chris Demarest (2000-03)
* Served four seasons under Amato
* Resigned from NCST to take same position at Rutgers

OC/OL Marty Galbraith (2000-02)
* Served three seasons under Amato, the first as OL coach, the latter two as OC
* Resigned from NCST OC job to take TE coach job with Arizona Cardinals

DC Reggie Herring (2004)
* Served one season under Amato.
* Resigned from NCST after one season to take similar job at Arkansas.

WR/Associate HC Doc Holiday (2000-04)
* Served five seasons under Amato
* Resigned from NCST to take a similar position at Florida

CJ Hunter
* Self Explanatory

Director of Football Operations: Bob LaCivita
* Not sure how long he was with NCST but left after 2004 season to take similar position with UF.

OC Noel Mazzone (2004)
* Served one year at NCST
* Although he "officially" resigned to take a similar position at Ole Miss (?)

Joe Pate
* Formerly a defensive coach for Amato, moved into administrative role "Assistant Athletics Director for Quality Control for Football" in March 2004

GA/LB/Safeties Manny Diaz (2000-05)
* Served six seasons under Amato starting out as a GA
* Resigned to take DC job at Middle Tennessee

OL Michael Barry (2003-05)
* Fired or pushed out? It was one of those two.
* Re-surfaced with Detroit Lions...but only after he was fired/pushed out of Raleigh

9/12/2006 11:26:21 AM

Quote :

" JayMCnasty All American 7568 Posts user info edit post my macrolevel is firing chuck. there are too many negatives. for example, he avoids personally taking blame in any loss weve ever had as much as possible. he seems like a liar and a douchebag, id rather have someone up there that isnt stuttering, stammering, looking for excuses, and takes responsibility for losing to akron."

guess you didn't listen to the post game interview when he said the loss was his fault then.


^how many of those were pushed out, step ups or left to be with friends. Herring left to be with Nutt

[Edited on September 12, 2006 at 11:29 AM. Reason : .]

9/12/2006 11:27:16 AM

explain the ones i posted above your last post

9/12/2006 11:27:40 AM

BRING IN BILL COWHER

9/12/2006 11:30:37 AM

i guess you didnt read my post when i said AVOIDS. yeah hell say it was his fault, but then starts throwing excuses around instead of just keeping his mouth shut and taking it like a man.

9/12/2006 11:30:49 AM

dont answer a question with a question

you sound like chuck amato

9/12/2006 11:32:04 AM

Quote :

"Norm Chow (2000) * Served one year as OC/QB coach under Amato * Resigned to take similar job at Southern Cal"

Step up, went to be closer to family.

Quote :

"Cary Gadette (2000) * Pretty sure he was fired after coaching at State from 1996-2000, the final season under Amato (first four seasons under MOC) * Resurfaced as DL coach at Western Carolina (D1AA)"

don't know

Quote :

"DC Buddy Green (2000-01) * Served two seasons under Amato * Resigned from NCST to take similar DC job at Navy"

don't know.

Quote :

"QB Mike Canales (2001-02) * Served two years under Amato * Resigned from NCST to take WR coach position with NY Jets"

NFL>College

Quote :

"DB Coach Chris Demarest (2000-03) * Served four seasons under Amato * Resigned from NCST to take same position at Rutgers"

Don't know

Quote :

"OC/OL Marty Galbraith (2000-02) * Served three seasons under Amato, the first as OL coach, the latter two as OC * Resigned from NCST OC job to take TE coach job with Arizona Cardinals"

Don't know. But then again, NFL>College

Quote :

"eason under Amato. * Resigned from NCST after one season to take similar job at Arkansas."

Left to coach with best friend.

Quote :

"WR/Associate HC Doc Holiday (2000-04) * Served five seasons under Amato * Resigned from NCST to take a similar position at Florida"

Step up to Florida. Florida better program than state

Quote :

"CJ Hunter * Self Explanatory"

Thank god he is gone

Quote :

"Director of Football Operations: Bob LaCivita * Not sure how long he was with NCST but left after 2004 season to take similar position with UF."

Step up program wise

Quote :

"OC Noel Mazzone (2004) * Served one year at NCST * Although he "officially" resigned to take a similar position at Ole Miss (?)"

thank god he is gone.

Quote :

"Joe Pate * Formerly a defensive coach for Amato, moved into administrative role "Assistant Athletics Director for Quality Control for Football" in March 2004"

Don't know

Quote :

"GA/LB/Safeties Manny Diaz (2000-05) * Served six seasons under Amato starting out as a GA * Resigned to take DC job at Middle Tennessee"

Thank god he is gone.

Quote :

"OL Michael Barry (2003-05) * Fired or pushed out? It was one of those two. * Re-surfaced with Detroit Lions...but only after he was fired/pushed out of Raleigh "

thank god he is gone. How many programs do you need to be fired from.

[Edited on September 12, 2006 at 11:34 AM. Reason : .]

9/12/2006 11:33:03 AM

Quote :

"i guess you didnt read my post when i said AVOIDS. yeah hell say it was his fault, but then starts throwing excuses around instead of just keeping his mouth shut and taking it like a man."

In the post game interview he said the loss was his fault. He said to blame him and not the players.

9/12/2006 11:33:53 AM

and we are BLAMING HIM

9/12/2006 11:34:16 AM

Quote :

"Step up to Florida. Florida better program than state"

WHY DO YOU ACCEPT THIS. florida is better because we run all of our coaches out of town. probably because theyre sick of seeing their boss not do shit, act like a guido, and ride around in a sports car full of prostitutes.

9/12/2006 11:34:58 AM