http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/americas/09/20/chavez.un/index.html

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"The U.N. was founded in an era of two superpowers, he said. "The Soviet Union collapsed. The United States empire is on the way down and it will be finished in the near future, for the good of all mankind." He also said the U.S. government was the "first enemy" of its people. "Their freedoms are restricted through the Patriot Act. They are sent to die in Iraq for no reason. The people of the United States are being deceived," he said. "

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"Chavez told reporters he, too, would like to explore nuclear energy. All countries should dispose of their nuclear bombs, he said, but he would like to tap the technology for energy purposes because Venezuela's oil reserves are nonrenewable and finite. He ended the news conference by saying, "I have a meeting with the axis of evil somewhere around here, so I have to go." "

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"John Bolton, U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, dismissed the speech, saying, "I think that [Chavez's] rhetoric today shows exactly what kind of man he is." Bolton said: "We're not going to address that sort of comic-strip approach to international affairs. "The real issue here is he knows he can exercise freedom of speech on that podium and, as I say, he could exercise it in Central Park, too. He's not giving the same freedom to the people of Venezuela." "

Ok I know its a lot to read; my apologies for that. Thoughts on this man and his speech? He seems failry charismatic, but I'm not sure how much of it is heart-felt and how much is grand-standing. I believe in several respects he's right, but it's also something that seems like it should be taken with more than one grain of salt.

9/20/2006 5:02:30 PM

the part where he went on about bush being satan, the podium still smells like sulfur, and imitating prayer when mentioning bush was pretty blatant grand standing

9/20/2006 5:09:14 PM

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"“Yesterday, the devil came here,” Mr. Chavez told the General Assembly, alluding to Mr. Bush’s speech to the assembly on Tuesday. “Right here. Right here. And it smells of sulfur still today, this table that I am now standing in front of.” Then Mr. Chavez made the sign of the cross, brought his hands together as if in prayer and glanced toward the ceiling. The moment may not become as famous as Nikita Khrushchev’s finger-wagging, shoe-thumping interruptions of the General Assembly in the cold-war era, but it still produced chuckles and some applause in the assembly hall. [...] “I think we could call a psychiatrist to analyze yesterday’s statement by the president of the United States,” Mr. Chavez went on. [...] “It smells of sulfur here, but God is with us, and I embrace you all,” he said. “May God bless us all. Good day to you.”"

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/20/world/americas/20cnd-chavez.html?hp&ex=1158811200&en=0126207c69354c70&ei=5094&partner=homepage

[Edited on September 20, 2006 at 5:19 PM. Reason : ]

9/20/2006 5:11:13 PM

I'd say 90% of it is grand-standing. I'm not exactly sure how we should react to his speech. I mean, he could have made those points without telling us that the podium still smelled of sulfur from when the Devil spoke the day before.

I think he's preying on the anti-American sentiment that seems to be going around, which is his prerogative.

Oh btw, did you see that President Bush got a lot of praise for his speech to the UN? I even heard some very un-Bushy Congressmen laud him for it.

I don't know how much good it will do, but we'll see.

9/20/2006 5:11:36 PM

chalk him up as someone who won't sit in his seat that long....we have enough money to overthrow his crazy ass

9/20/2006 7:57:49 PM

Well, being an obnoxious pissant never works out well for people.

I like the part about us being on the way out too.

And those nuke comments...

He's just stirring up shit.

9/20/2006 8:04:15 PM

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"we have enough money to overthrow his crazy ass"

We may have already tried that. It didn't work.

9/20/2006 8:06:39 PM

well, it worked for him. his speech got a lot more press than bush's.

9/20/2006 8:25:35 PM

NPR was saying that while the speech may have provided some popularity points on the global stage, it probably cost Chavez something that he was striving for: a seat on the UN Security Council. Before the speech, he apparently had the votes lined up to get him onto the Council, at very least as a counterbalance to the United States and its allies. However, because of this crazy speech (and blatant violation of diplomatic standards), a lot of his supporting votes have gone questionable, with nations asking whether they want to put in another crazy and not-so-diplomatic leader calling leaders "evil" on the council... (hmm... who does that remind you of?)

9/20/2006 8:55:11 PM

I would crack jokes like that if I were a president.

9/20/2006 8:59:35 PM

bush should take it up a notch and refer to him as "bitch boy chavez" for the rest of his term solely for my personal amusement

9/20/2006 9:02:18 PM

LOL @ him for being president of a shitty country like Venezuela

who gives a fuck about this spic and anything he says?

9/20/2006 9:04:48 PM

i generally ignore political commentary that includes racial slurs

9/20/2006 9:06:18 PM

good because i generally ignore people who won't stand up for anything because they are scared of being politically incorrect

[Edited on September 20, 2006 at 9:16 PM. Reason : ]

9/20/2006 9:10:40 PM

ahahaha

why did you edit out fag?

scared of being politically incorrect?

9/20/2006 9:17:04 PM

are you venezuelan and gay?

9/20/2006 9:19:36 PM

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"why did you edit out fag? scared of being politically incorrect?"

9/20/2006 9:21:07 PM

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"(hmm... who does that remind you of?)"

Bolton.

9/20/2006 9:36:16 PM

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"are you venezuelan and gay?"

9/20/2006 9:46:08 PM

i only ask because you've already proven yourself to be a dumbass and a hypocrite while using very few words

9/20/2006 9:49:55 PM

you are a fag

now go ahead and jack off to those words youve been craving

also i generally ignore fags like you who think they are the shit on a college message board eventhough they have graduated and should of moved on to bigger and better things in life

[Edited on September 20, 2006 at 9:56 PM. Reason : ]

9/20/2006 9:54:33 PM

so what makes me a fag?

please explain it using small words, as your sharp intellect is clearly superior to mine.

9/20/2006 10:01:14 PM

lets hear your thoughts on Chavez's speech

since you said, "i generally ignore political commentary that includes racial slurs"

if i want to use racial slurs its my business

if you want to ignore than ignore oh wait you responded to my message by saying you generall ignore racial slurs

which in turn makes you a dumb ass and a hypocrite

omg the irony

9/20/2006 10:05:18 PM

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"jnpaul: LOL @ him for being president of a shitty country like Venezuela who gives a fuck about this spic and anything he says?"

What the fuck is wrong with you?

9/20/2006 10:05:27 PM

nothing is wrong with me

the guy is clown who runs a 3rd world country

and he wants to destroy our country

i have a problem with him and i voiced it

apparently you don't think its a big deal that people out there want to destroy our United States

9/20/2006 10:07:34 PM

^That's what you should have said.

Calling Venezuela a "shitty country" and using racial slurs to describe its leader...
...makes you sound like an obnoxious, uneducated dumbass.

(And are you really scared of Chavez? Do you think he's a threat to the US right now?)

9/20/2006 10:11:15 PM

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"if you want to ignore than ignore oh wait you responded to my message by saying you generall ignore racial slurs which in turn makes you a dumb ass and a hypocrite omg the irony"

Do you even know what irony is? Oh let me guess, I'm a fag for asking about a literary device.

Generally means generally. Yours was such a blatant example of ignorance that I felt the need to reply. Now how does that make me a hypocrite?

9/20/2006 10:13:08 PM

no but the combination of Venezuela + being allies with Iran + North Korea + nuclear weapons
does scare me

we are going to get blown off the map and then youll be saying the same things i am

9/20/2006 10:13:55 PM

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"Generally means generally. Yours was such a blatant example of ignorance that I felt the need to reply. Now how does that make me a hypocrite?"

blah blah

go spend some time with your boyfriend and his dildos and quit jawing with me

[Edited on September 20, 2006 at 10:25 PM. Reason : ]

9/20/2006 10:15:34 PM

ahahahaha

what happened to me being a fag?

whew, good edit. its a good thing that i'm here to keep you from looking like a dumbass.

[Edited on September 20, 2006 at 10:33 PM. Reason : .]

9/20/2006 10:19:53 PM

i think youve pretty much got the dumb ass section of the this thread under control all on your own

9/20/2006 10:39:55 PM

yeah, i'm one hell of a dumbass hypocrite spic fag.

YOU GOT ME THERE!

9/20/2006 10:41:03 PM

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

9/20/2006 10:42:42 PM

chavez is just a troll. maybe when he gets ussr-size power, he can act like he's saying monumental things.

9/20/2006 11:15:24 PM

i appluad chavez

9/20/2006 11:35:33 PM

you would you idiot

you should join him down in venezuela

9/20/2006 11:39:59 PM

i did

9/20/2006 11:41:28 PM

good

stay there

9/20/2006 11:51:10 PM

he'll never get a chance to see what good he might do for venezuela, b/c his foreign policy will get him embargoed. i guess he didnt pay attention to the cold war. i wish he'd shut up about the us like he means something and concentrate on efforts in improving his own region. his enthusiasm is better utilized there.

9/20/2006 11:52:36 PM

he's more inerested in his legacy as a third world leader who loudly opposes US policy

9/21/2006 12:00:01 AM

while chavez by himself is very weak and not worth paying attention to, the fact that his stances do, in fact, have large support here in the us is worth noting and combatting.

noam chomsky is a traitorus hack.

9/21/2006 12:05:17 AM

he should be president

9/21/2006 12:07:18 AM

hahahaha

credibility=0

9/21/2006 12:08:22 AM

i saw on cnn that chomsky's book was around 166,000th as far as searches on amazon

after chavez held it up it jumped to #169

9/21/2006 12:19:03 AM

refreshing and scary, at the same time.

chomsky cant hold rush's jock.

9/21/2006 12:20:34 AM

linguistics ars AWESOME!

9/21/2006 12:58:51 AM

mofucker outta his mind

9/21/2006 4:08:22 AM

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"i appluad chavez"

Yes, you probably do support this guy J#. And the reason: Your intelligence about politics is approximately equal to your skill with spelling.

9/21/2006 7:10:55 AM

I really don't consider Venezuela to be 3rd world, but maybe my standards for 3rd world are too high

9/21/2006 8:09:29 AM

Even if they would both be wrong, I'd bet $1,000,000 on Chomsky to win any debate on media bias with Rush.

9/21/2006 8:57:26 AM