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http://thesundevils.cstv.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/090406aab.html
Quote : | "Herb Sendek By the Numbers A look at some notes and numbers from Herb Sendek's Coaching Career
Sept. 4, 2006
A look at some of the numbers behind ASU head coach Herb Sendek in his 13 years as a Division I head coach:
.783-NC State was 281-of-359 (.783) from the free throw line in its 16 ACC games in 2005-06, the best mark in the league.
1-Herb Sendek made ACC history when his Wolfpack became the first team in ACC history to knock off the No. 1 seed in the ACC Tournament in consecutive years when it beat Maryland in 2002 and Wake Forest in 2003. Maryland was ranked second in the nation while Wake Forest was ranked ninth.
1-In Herb Sendek's 10 seasons, NC State led the ACC in scoring defense four times and held opponents to just 54.7 points per game in 1996-97, an ACC record.
1-Herb Sendek's NC State squad last year ranked tenth in the nation and first in the ACC in effective field goal percentage with a .550 mark, a computer ranking of how effective an offense is on each possession.
2-Twice Herb Sendek's NC State teams beat the nation's top-ranked team in the Associated Press poll. On Feb. 21, 1998, NC State topped North Carolina in Chapel Hill 86-72. On Feb. 15, 2004, NC State topped Duke 78-74 in Raleigh. Beating the No. 1 team within six seasons is not something that happens all the time. ASU has beaten the top-ranked team once in its history (1981), while Pac-10 schools USC, Washington, Oregon, Oregon State, California also have topped the number one team twice -- in each school's history.
2-In the past five seasons Sendek's NC State squad was second in ACC wins. Counting all ACC regular season and tournament games, NC State won 53 games. Only one team (Duke) won more in that span.
2-Number of Final Fours Herb Sendek has coached in, as he was a member of the Providence staff in 1987 and the Kentucky staff in 1993.
3-Herb Sendek is one of just three coaches in the nation to have a first-round pick in each of the past two seasons along with Jim Calhoun and Lorenzo Romar. Julius Hodge was the 20th pick of the Denver Nuggets in 2006 while Cedric Simmons was the 15th pick of the New Orleans/Oklahoma City Hornets in 2006.
3-In ACC only stats last year, Herb Sendek's NC State squad ranked third in scoring (75.8 ppg.), scoring margin (+2.1), field goal percentage defense (.434), three-point field goal percentage (.405), blocked shots (4.56 per game) and assist-to-turnover ratio (1.08).
4-Four times NC State led the ACC in scoring defense under Sendek, including allowing just 54.7 points per game in 1997, an ACC record. ASU has never held an opponent under 60 points per game since 1950. NC State also led the ACC in scoring defense in 1997-98 (62.1), 1999-2000 (63.6), and 2001-02 (67.8).
5-Coach Sendek's five straight NCAA tournaments is currently the second-best mark among Pac-10 coaches. Only one other current coach in the Pac-10 can boast five straight NCAA Tournament appearances at any time in his career. The five straight NCAA appearances tied a NC State record.
5-Four times NC State led the ACC in scoring defense under Sendek, including allowing just 54.7 points per game in 1997, an ACC record. ASU has never held an opponent under 60 points per game since 1950. NC State also led the ACC in scoring defense in 1997-98 (62.1), 1999-2000 (63.6), and 2001-02 (67.8).
5-Herb Sendek led NC State to the past five NCAA Tournaments, matching a school record.
5-NC State beat five top-10 teams on the road in the past five seasons.
5-Herb Sendek led his NC State teams to five 20-win seasons in the past seven years. In the ACC, only Duke (seven) had more 20-win seasons in that time (1999-2000 to 2005-2006).
6-Coach Sendek's six NCAA tournament wins is the fourth-most among current Pac-10 coaches.
6-Coach Sendek's six NCAA appearances is the third-most among current Pac-10 coaches.
7-NC State placed seven players on the All-ACC freshman team under Sendek.
7-In the past five seasons, Herb Sendek has defeated seven of the past eight NCAA champions. It knocked defending NCAA champion UCONN (1999 and 2004 champion) out of the 2005 NCAA Tournament and has beaten past champions Michigan State (2000), Duke (2001), Maryland (2002), Syracuse (2003) and North Carolina (2005) in the December of 2001 to March of 2005 time frame.
8-Under Herb Sendek, NC State is one of only eight teams has won a NCAA Tournament game in each of the past three seasons, joining Duke, Gonzaga, UCONN, Kentucky, Illinois, North Carolina and Boston College.
9-NC State beat five top-10 teams in the past five seasons.
9-NC State averaged nine three-pointers made per game in 2005-06, the best mark in the ACC and ninth-best in the nation.
13-Herb Sendek has been a head coach for 13 years, tied for the fourth-most experienced coach in the Pac-10. Only Lute Olson (33 seasons and 71 years old), Ben Braun (29 seasons and 55 years old) and Ernie Kent (15 seasons and 51 years old) have more seasons of head coaching experience. Tim Floyd of USC (52 years old) also has been a head coach for 13 seasons.
15-NC State under Herb Sendek is one of just 15 schools to advance to the NCAA Tournament in each of the past five seasons (2001-06), along with Alabama, Arizona, UCONN, Duke, Florida, Gonzaga, Illinois, Kansas, Kentucky, Michigan State, Pitt, Southern Illinois, Texas and Wisconsin.
16-NC State was 16th in the nation last year in free throw percentage, shooting at a .751 clip. ASU has not shot better than 75 percent from the free throw line since 1978.
20-NC State won at least 20 games in five of the past seven seasons. Only Duke had more in that time period among ACC foes.
22-Herb Sendek was 22 when he entered the coaching ranks as a graduate assistant for Rick Pitino at Providence.
33-When Herb Sendek took the NC State job on April 17, 1996, he was the youngest coach in the ACC at age 33.
38-Herb Sendek coached in 38 postseason games at NC State and was 20-18.
43-Herb Sendek is the second-youngest head coach in the Pac-10 at 43 years old. Only Tony Bennett of Washington State (36) is younger. Sendek has been the head coach in 412 games, Bennett enters his first year.
53-In the past five seasons, counting all ACC regular season and tournament games, NC State won 53 games. Only one team (Duke) won more in that span.
61-Number of Division I coaching changes for the 2006-07 season, and Herb Sendek ranks fifth in wins with 254 among the new coaches behind only Kansas State's Bob Huggins (567), College of Charleston's Bobby Cremins (457), Indiana's Kelvin Sampson (456) and Temple's Fran Dunphy (310).
75.8-NC State ranked third in the ACC in scoring in league games last year at 75.8 points per game. Washington led the Pac-10 scoring 77.6 points per game in its 18 league games last year, as only two Pac-10 teams averaged more than 70 points in league play. " |
9/24/2006 10:27:51 AM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Why is it a spin??? 9/24/2006 10:31:07 AM |
Randy Suspended 1175 Posts user info edit post |
aaaahahahahaha
how about "blown leads"?
wasted talent?
transfers?
number of times booed by his own fanbase?
Championships= ZERO 9/24/2006 10:31:15 AM |
ParksNrec All American 8742 Posts user info edit post |
You'll say all that about Herb, and love Chuck at the same time.
Figures. 9/24/2006 10:32:58 AM |
JTMONEYNCSU All American 24529 Posts user info edit post |
pwnt 9/24/2006 10:34:17 AM |
sublime_ncsu All American 5037 Posts user info edit post |
chuck is alumni and that says alot.... 9/24/2006 10:36:34 AM |
ParksNrec All American 8742 Posts user info edit post |
oh, so you can only be hard on a coach that didn't graduate from here?
Gotcha, good reasoning. 9/24/2006 10:39:04 AM |
Aficionado Suspended 22518 Posts user info edit post |
i would still like to have herb and someone other than amato
but my last name isnt murphy, vaughn, or wanye-day so i dont get a say in the matter 9/24/2006 10:40:38 AM |
sublime_ncsu All American 5037 Posts user info edit post |
^^which is exactly why they will never fire amato....he will have to step down on his own....the only mother fuckers that will fire alumni is UNC (see Doh).....amato does bleed state red and sendek did not.....that says alot....
[Edited on September 24, 2006 at 10:41 AM. Reason : ] 9/24/2006 10:41:29 AM |
ParksNrec All American 8742 Posts user info edit post |
Well if bleeding NCSU red makes you a great coach, someone sign me up now. Hell, I'd probably be a hall-of-famer because I love this university so much. 9/24/2006 10:46:16 AM |
Randy Suspended 1175 Posts user info edit post |
at nc state, we take care of our own.
amato is more of a man than herb ever dreamed of being. herb never stood up to the media and took the fight to them like amato does. herb is a weakling who will never win anything worthwhile. amato has proven he can rebound from adversity and salvage good seasons and bowl wins. he ends seasons on positive notes. when did herb ever do that, aside from the ONE sweet sixteen he made.
amato is as much an ambassador for the university as he is a coach.
herb was just a pussy. 9/24/2006 10:53:06 AM |
lthlsnke260 Veteran 466 Posts user info edit post |
It says Sendek beat Carolina-the 2005 NCAA Champion-but State hasn't beat UNC since Roy took over... 9/24/2006 11:17:15 AM |
DaveOT All American 11945 Posts user info edit post |
No, it says we beat them within the past four years (which we did, before losing six straight). 9/24/2006 11:17:57 AM |
lthlsnke260 Veteran 466 Posts user info edit post |
but when we beat them it was a completely different team under D'oh 9/24/2006 11:19:58 AM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "amato is more of a man than herb ever dreamed of being." |
All that bitching and complaining and putting the blame on "partial qualifers" on the other team is REAL manly.... All that showy personality with nothing to show for it is REAL manly....
Quote : | "herb is a weakling who will never win anything worthwhile." |
What has Amato won again?? 4th place in the ACC??
Quote : | "amato has proven he can rebound from adversity and salvage good seasons and bowl wins." |
You mean like Herb and NCAA tourney bids??
Quote : | "he ends seasons on positive notes." |
We've ended one football season on a really happy note (that could be compared to a Sweet 16)...and that was the Gator Bowl win. I hope you weren't really happy after the last two years. And only one basketball team can end the year with a win (two if you cound the NIT)...so it's kind of hard to end on a happy note.
You're an idiot if you try to compare Herb and Chuck to further your support of Chuck. And this alumni crap is bullshit. You have to win games...and that's it.9/24/2006 11:22:17 AM |
Beardawg61 Trauma Specialist 15492 Posts user info edit post |
I wish Sidney Lowe the best, but I'd love to see the Wolfpack fans who "swing the big dicks" begging for Herb to come back. 9/24/2006 11:28:13 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "amato is as much an ambassador for the university as he is a coach." |
I'm not a Chuck hater (as in I'm not calling for his head daily though I'm pretty sure at this point he isn't the guy who is going to turn the program in to a winner) but this is just stupid. He fucking made a mockery of my alma mater complaining about the partials. Herb was a much better ambassador for the University. He was always full of class and obviously very intelligent. His merits on the sidelines can be argued but that cannot be.9/24/2006 11:29:01 AM |
sublime_ncsu All American 5037 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "What has Amato won again?? 4th place in the ACC?? " |
didnt we finish 8th in the country in 2002....did b-ball ever do that??9/24/2006 11:35:51 AM |
Randy Suspended 1175 Posts user info edit post |
this is nc state.
amato is the best thing to happen to fb in more than 25 years.
herb was mediocre to bad when compared to other ncsu greats in basketball. 9/24/2006 11:49:21 AM |
DROD900 All American 24658 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I wish Sidney Lowe the best, but I'd love to see the Wolfpack fans who "swing the big dicks" begging for Herb to come back.
" |
youve got to be kidding me, that was quite possibly the most idiotic thing you've ever said. Even if we didnt win a single game next season there is no chance in hell that anyone with a power position with the university would beg for an old coach to come back...the fans "who swing big dicks" didnt get into power positions by being pussies and not standing firm in their decisions9/24/2006 11:49:22 AM |
rwoody Save TWW 37696 Posts user info edit post |
its kinda funny/embarassing how people CONTINUE to hate on sendek even though he isnt even here anymore
i mean fuck, the guy gave you exactly what you wanted, get off his nuts and wish him success. 9/24/2006 1:10:31 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " amato is the best thing to happen to fb in more than 25 years." |
Amato is a notch above Mike O'Cain in terms of NC State coaches.
Give me Sheridan with these facilities any day over Amato (not to mention Holtz and Kiffin).9/24/2006 1:19:57 PM |
ParksNrec All American 8742 Posts user info edit post |
The saddest part is that it will never stop.
No matter what Sid does this year, or for the next 5, it'll be "better than Herb." 9/24/2006 1:20:59 PM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I wish Sidney Lowe the best, but I'd love to see the Wolfpack fans who "swing the big dicks" begging for Herb to come back.
" |
why??? you want us to lose so some people feel bad or look bad? i'm guessing, no matter what happens, we won't be begging for herb back.9/24/2006 1:25:32 PM |
CharlieEFH All American 21806 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "^^which is exactly why they will never fire amato....he will have to step down on his own....the only mother fuckers that will fire alumni is UNC (see Doh).....amato does bleed state red and sendek did not.....that says alot...." |
they were never going to fire herb
for the second thread in a row: i hate our fans9/24/2006 1:32:23 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "didnt we finish 8th in the country in 2002....did b-ball ever do that??" |
I think the bball team finished pretty high that year we made it to the sweet 16.
In football, I think we might have finished 9th.........and 4th in the ACC with a 5-3 record. We had one of the best QBs in the history of college football and got two 4th place finishes and a nice bowl against Kansas in hig senior year. Then we have last year's draft success and go 3-5 in the ACC and go to the Tire Bowl.
You have no argument.9/24/2006 1:35:03 PM |
PackBacker All American 14415 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "didnt we finish 8th in the country in 2002....did b-ball ever do that??" |
We finished 11th in the AP Poll.
NC State has never finished in the top 10. (I think that was our 2nd time being #11, though)
And again... comparing our football and basketball programs is ridiculous. Chuck has a lot of accomplishments compared to the rest of NC State football history. Herb was a solid coach, but the expectations for basketball were and should be a lot higher than those of football
[Edited on September 24, 2006 at 1:45 PM. Reason : ]9/24/2006 1:43:58 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "You'll say all that about Herb, and love Chuck at the same time.
Figures." |
9/24/2006 1:47:39 PM |
sublime_ncsu All American 5037 Posts user info edit post |
Herb did exactly what we hired him to do period....thats all he did nothing special.....thanks herb and we are moving on... 9/24/2006 5:47:24 PM |
ncstatetke All American 41128 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "we are moving on" |
evident by this thread, not all of "us" are moving on9/24/2006 6:35:38 PM |
Josh8315 Suspended 26780 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Championships= ZERO" |
thus a failure`9/24/2006 6:36:30 PM |
AxlBonBach All American 45550 Posts user info edit post |
does anyone honestly think ASU is gonna come out and say "Oy, we got herb, he sucks, what were we thinking"
seriously, it's PR spin that every new coach gets at a school... a list of credentials to hype up fans, and put asses in the seats 9/24/2006 6:41:44 PM |
sublime_ncsu All American 5037 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "seriously, it's PR spin that every new coach gets at a school... a list of credentials to hype up fans, and put asses in the seats " |
exactly my point here.....ASU is trying to make themselves feel good....9/24/2006 6:43:44 PM |
AxlBonBach All American 45550 Posts user info edit post |
they should feel good. herb's a great coach and he'll do well out west
it just didn't work here 9/24/2006 6:44:48 PM |
Quinn All American 16417 Posts user info edit post |
Only nc state fans could continue to complain about a coach WHO IS FUCKING GONE. 9/24/2006 7:02:35 PM |
sublime_ncsu All American 5037 Posts user info edit post |
^who is complaining? 9/24/2006 8:14:57 PM |
BEU All American 12512 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "1-In Herb Sendek's 10 seasons, NC State led the ACC in scoring defense four times and held opponents to just 54.7 points per game in 1996-97, an ACC record." |
uh, yea, thats what happens when our offense is that slow9/24/2006 10:07:32 PM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "^who is complaining?" |
^This guy is complaining9/24/2006 10:24:42 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "You have no argument." |
GTFO out of here with this bullshit Randy9/24/2006 11:46:34 PM |
hcnguyen Suspended 4297 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "swing the big dicks" |
9/25/2006 12:11:55 AM |
BobbyDigital Thots and Prayers 41777 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Only nc state fans could continue to complain about a coach WHO IS FUCKING GONE." |
9/25/2006 11:11:46 AM |
sober46an3 All American 47925 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "exactly my point here.....ASU is trying to make themselves feel good...." |
agreed....we've doing the same thing since we settled for Sidney.
..its nothing new. every team is going to try to hype up their hire.
[Edited on September 25, 2006 at 11:21 AM. Reason : df]9/25/2006 11:18:00 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "38-Herb Sendek coached in 38 postseason games at NC State and was 20-18." |
is this supposed to be a good record or something?
Quote : | "6-Coach Sendek's six NCAA tournament wins is the fourth-most among current Pac-10 coaches.
6-Coach Sendek's six NCAA appearances is the third-most among current Pac-10 coaches. " |
6 tournament appearances resulting in 6 tournament game wins
1 and done (average)
aside from all the stats that are overlapping/redundant, I don't know if ASU needed to hear these numbers...they're not great]9/25/2006 11:29:34 AM |
DaveOT All American 11945 Posts user info edit post |
Actually, all those stats are pretty good
for an Arizona State coach. 9/25/2006 12:46:43 PM |
BEU All American 12512 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "^This guy is complaining" |
uh, the point is about the spin of the language used in the article. I am not hating, just pointing out the flaws in how they are representing basic data.9/25/2006 1:12:18 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37696 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "6 tournament appearances resulting in 6 tournament game wins
1 and done (average)" |
1 and done implies you play one game and you are done, so sendek is averaging 2 and done
and once again:
Quote : | "its kinda funny/embarassing/sad how people CONTINUE to hate on sendek even though he isnt even here anymore" |
(i forgot sad the first time)9/25/2006 2:12:28 PM |