beware of the man bear pig

9/29/2006 12:59:49 PM

ibtl

9/29/2006 1:01:36 PM

least we know gore isnt stupid

9/29/2006 1:04:03 PM

at least gore wouldn't have gotten us inolved in an unwinable fight in a country that posed no threat to america.

9/29/2006 1:04:40 PM

what's the difference between manbearpig and wmds, anyway. both never existed.

9/29/2006 1:05:13 PM

we never went to war over manbearpigs

9/29/2006 1:05:53 PM

HALF MAN, HALF BEAR, HALF PIG

9/29/2006 1:05:56 PM

yeah, but at least gore singlehandedly destroyed manbearpig

9/29/2006 1:06:19 PM

^^wouldn't it be one third... on third... one third...

because right now we have a 1.5 manbearpig and I want to know where the over half is.

9/29/2006 1:08:45 PM

at least gore would have us waste all our time being involved in an unprovable theory of global warming thats poses no threat to america

that was easy

9/29/2006 1:11:18 PM

^FTW

9/29/2006 1:12:24 PM

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"at least gore would have us waste all our time being involved in an unprovable theory of global warming thats poses no threat to america that was easy"

Unprovable? Unprovable to whom? This is one of the very few things scientists will agree on. 99.9% of climatalogist will tell you global warming is happening. I just don't understand why people refuse to believe it exists.

9/29/2006 1:13:57 PM

global warming happened today...its warmer than it was this morning

must be the cigarette i smoked on the way to work

ps: 100% of scientists and people with brains will tell you that the average temperature has risen over the last 100 years...however only morons try to immediately extrapolate "humans are causing catastrophic temperature changes!" just based on the data...there are a lot more factors...0% of credible scientists can say with certainty HOW MUCH humans have contributed to that rise, and how much other factors have contributed like solar cycles, other CO2 cycles, natural fluctuations, etc

there is clearly a scare tactic going on that insinuates, with NO PROOF, that humans are the main cause of this 100 year 2-3 degree average temperature rise

9/29/2006 1:14:36 PM

yup, the classic action. Just misrepresent the facts and the theory.

p.s. that's called a strawman argument.

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"ps: 100% of scientists and people with brains will tell you that the average temperature has risen over the last 100 years...however only morons try to immediately extrapolate "humans are causing catastrophic temperature changes!" just based on the data...there are a lot more factors"

Yeah, like the fact that greenhouse emissions have increased. Based upon climate trends we should be in a cooling period. The earth is warming faster than it ever has in history.

[Edited on September 29, 2006 at 1:17 PM. Reason : .]

9/29/2006 1:16:38 PM

^ and you are qualified to make scientific inferences in that field, becuase youre a researcher?

the difference between you and the rest of us is that we respect the process of science and the conclusions of dedicated peer-review researchers.



[Edited on September 29, 2006 at 1:18 PM. Reason : ^^]

9/29/2006 1:17:33 PM

are you talking to me?

9/29/2006 1:18:34 PM

you guys dont read scientific journals

you listen to al gore and his scare tactics

i have a degree in marine and coastal natural resources...which doesnt necessarily mean anything...except everything i know about global climate change i learned in person FROM SCIENTISTS with PhDs...not from news outlets and political hopefuls

ps: emissions increasing is no kind of proof of anything...learn the scientific method before you spit some more bullshit assumptions

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"Based upon climate trends we should be in a cooling period"

what the fuck do you know about it...no scientists fully understand how climate trends work

9/29/2006 1:19:14 PM

I think you were probably high when they went over climate change in class. hat's why you don't remember anything.

[quoe]what the fuck do you know about it[/quote]

look at the temperatures over the last how ever many million years. the earth has followed a trend. Right now, this trend should be cooling, but the earth isn't cooling.

[Edited on September 29, 2006 at 1:21 PM. Reason : .]

9/29/2006 1:20:32 PM

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"except everything i know about global climate change i learned in person FROM SCIENTISTS with PhDs"

same with most of us

[Edited on September 29, 2006 at 1:21 PM. Reason : what complex field....theres coasts...and water.. and all kind of crazy high level math and physics]

9/29/2006 1:20:35 PM

Plz to link me to five scientific articles in peer-reviewed sources in the past three years that says global warming is false and not affecting americans.

9/29/2006 1:20:41 PM

^please link me 1 single article that quantifies how much effect humans have on the obvious temperature rises that nobody is disputing

i think you guys think "temperature increases" and "human contributions" are one in the same

NOBODY is denying temperature increases...how many fucking times must i repeat this

but what NOBODY KNOWS is how much humans contribute to those changes

you guys dont even know what youre arguing

[Edited on September 29, 2006 at 1:22 PM. Reason : .]

9/29/2006 1:21:19 PM

http://www.sciam.com

9/29/2006 1:21:54 PM

now you are shifting what you are arguing.

9/29/2006 1:22:04 PM

I don't have a fucking degree in marine and coastal natural resources and hence don't "read scientific journals", but I do think you're full of shit, per usual.

9/29/2006 1:22:10 PM

^^you didnt know what i was arguing in the first place and you still dont

you'd rather jump on me and call me an idiot than actually read what i say

9/29/2006 1:22:57 PM

jesus christ... how did this theread turn into this


the guy is a fucking idiot... an even bigger idiot than the one we have now

and domestically alot more dangerous

9/29/2006 1:23:41 PM

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"^^you didnt know what i was arguing in the first place and you still dont you'd rather jump on me and call me an idiot than actually read what i say"

I didn't call you an idiot.

9/29/2006 1:26:38 PM

Al Gore poses more of a threat to America than his phony "global warming caused by humans" myth. Its his bad science, combined with a socialist, anti-capitalist agenda we are seeing embraced in all of the kyoto protocol countries except the best capitalist nations, which are us and australia.

9/29/2006 1:29:00 PM

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"Al Gore poses more of a threat to America than his phony "global warming caused by humans" myth. Its his bad science, combined with a socialist, anti-capitalist agenda we are seeing embraced in all of the kyoto protocol countries except the best capitalist nations, which are us and australia."

when and where did socialist become attached to global warming? And global warming caused by humans is based on actual science. not science which argues for an intelligent designer, but science that is based upon facts and experiments with repeatable data.

9/29/2006 1:30:28 PM

^^^at least you admit you dont read the points i make

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"And global warming caused by humans is based on actual science"

NO

temperature increase is based on science...what contributes to those increases and how much each factor contributes is up in the air to scientists

[Edited on September 29, 2006 at 1:32 PM. Reason : .]

9/29/2006 1:31:12 PM

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"Its his bad science,"

you wouldnt know good science from bad science if your life literalty depended on it

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" anti-capitalist agenda"

yes. sometimes you have to do anti-capitalistic things to surive. its fact of life. look at histroy. we've got plenty of socialism in our economy. almost everyone agrees social secuirity is essential.



[Edited on September 29, 2006 at 1:36 PM. Reason : fsdghdfh]

9/29/2006 1:31:21 PM

^
(neither would you)

[Edited on September 29, 2006 at 1:32 PM. Reason : .]

9/29/2006 1:32:26 PM

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"NO temperature increase is based on science...what contributes to those increases and how much each factor contributes is up in the air to scientists"

find me a peer reviewed piece that supports your statement.

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"^^^at least you admit you dont read the points i make"

I do read your points. And I refuted your point. you said I called you an idiot. I did no such thing. So lose the presecution complex.

[Edited on September 29, 2006 at 1:34 PM. Reason : .]

9/29/2006 1:33:29 PM

glad you agree that randy cant.

[Edited on September 29, 2006 at 1:33 PM. Reason : ^^ ]

9/29/2006 1:33:44 PM

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"when and where did socialist become attached to global warming?"

go read the kyoto protocol, then go see who supports it and what it means for industry. it is a industrial regulation that is unnecessary and wrong, the calling card of socialists.

9/29/2006 1:34:00 PM

^^^every single on of them

you really should refresh yourself on the scientific method...you probably havent come across it since elementary school science projects

and you didnt refute any point

i said you disbelieve anything us govt and believe anything media, except foxnews

you replied by saying how the ny times was right about something

you are amazingly wrong

[Edited on September 29, 2006 at 1:35 PM. Reason : .]

9/29/2006 1:34:34 PM

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"regulation that is unnecessary and wrong"

based on what conservative commentators tell you?

9/29/2006 1:35:03 PM

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"go read the kyoto protocol, then go see who supports it and what it means for industry. it is a industrial regulation that is unnecessary and wrong, the calling card of socialists."

do you even know what socialist means? God forbid the government do its JOB.

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"^^^every single on of them you really should refresh yourself on the scientific method...you probably havent come across it since elementary school science projects"

Then why don't you post a link to one. And you cannont complain about people calling you an idiot if you engage in the same mindless rhetoric.

[Edited on September 29, 2006 at 1:36 PM. Reason : .]

9/29/2006 1:35:21 PM

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"God forbid the government do its JOB."

like keep our homeland safe

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"Then why don't you post a link to one"

nutsmackr you are truly clueless to science

why dont you post one thing that shows how much humans contribute to global warming

9/29/2006 1:36:12 PM

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"like keep our homeland safe"

non sequitor

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"nutsmackr you are truly clueless to science"

Instead of engaging in ad hominem attacks on me, why don't you actually post an article that you claim exists.

[Edited on September 29, 2006 at 1:37 PM. Reason : .]

9/29/2006 1:36:48 PM

YOU ARE BREAKING THE HEARTS OF THE HEROES THAT DIED ON 911

9/29/2006 1:37:12 PM

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"God forbid the government do its JOB"

GOD FORBID WE TELL THE GOVERNMENT TO STAY OUT OF OUR LIVES AND BUSINESSES

9/29/2006 1:37:48 PM

its in the consitution that they must provide for our general welfare (and secuirity)

[Edited on September 29, 2006 at 1:38 PM. Reason : 3]

9/29/2006 1:38:34 PM

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"Climatologists (scientists who study climate) have analyzed the global warming that has occurred since the late 1800's. A majority of climatologists have concluded that human activities are responsible for most of the warming. Human activities contribute to global warming by enhancing Earth's natural greenhouse effect. The greenhouse effect warms Earth's surface through a complex process involving sunlight, gases, and particles in the atmosphere. Gases that trap heat in the atmosphere are known as greenhouse gases. "

http://www.nasa.gov/worldbook/global_warming_worldbook.html

9/29/2006 1:38:54 PM

YA BUT NASA ISN'T A SCIENTIFIC JOURNAL

9/29/2006 1:39:53 PM

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"A majority of climatologists have concluded that human activities are responsible for most of the warming"

thats not the quantitative answer i was looking for since its not at all quantitative

9/29/2006 1:53:35 PM

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" thats not the quantitative answer i was looking for since its not at all quantitative"

oh my god. Do you want a precise btu measument of human cause?

Jesus Christ, NASA has stated that humans are largely responsible and you continue to attempt to refute that?

9/29/2006 1:55:17 PM

you really dont understand science do you

you probably still think people are disputing whether or not the temperature has risen (something easily quantifiable) rather than what factors lead to it

unless you think global mean temperatures were always the same before humans showed up

9/29/2006 1:58:41 PM

ad hominem, non sequitor, strawman. Why don't you learn how to debate without using logical fallacies and without using insults. Nothing I have posted is even remotely close to the allegations you are making on my intelligence.

9/29/2006 2:03:43 PM

read this genius

http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/greenhouse_data.html

might be a little long for you but read it

[Edited on September 29, 2006 at 2:04 PM. Reason : .]

9/29/2006 2:04:00 PM