http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=2605423

So, some israeli jet's fired onto some german battleships by lebanon, this should go smoothly

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"Israel denied a German newspaper report on Wednesday that two of its air force planes had fired twice as they flew over a German navy vessel patrolling the Lebanon coast. Germany's Defense Ministry said an incident had occurred, without giving details. The German daily Der Tagesspiegel quoted a German junior defense minister as telling a parliamentary committee two Israeli F-16 fighters had flown low over the ship, firing twice. The jets also activated infra-red countermeasures to ward off any rocket attack, the paper quoted him as saying, in an advance release from Thursday's edition. "There was no such incident," an Israeli military spokeswoman said. "

10/25/2006 10:29:31 PM

oh dear

10/25/2006 10:38:47 PM

it's happened before

WAIT FOR IT

10/25/2006 10:43:05 PM

TEH EVIL JEWS!!!!

but really, none of this would have happened if we had just thrown them down the well

10/25/2006 10:52:36 PM

wait, which ones are the bad guys? Israel or Palistinian?

10/25/2006 10:53:00 PM

In fairness, it has happened before, with them shooting our boat up.

I'm a pretty staunch supporter of Israel, but that particular event -- and the haziness surrounding the details -- still pisses me off.

I wish we would reign them in more.

10/26/2006 3:00:23 AM

Geez, are they still pissed at the germans?

10/26/2006 2:21:50 PM

^no I'm sure all of them have forgiven them for murdering their ancestors

10/26/2006 2:24:02 PM

you know

the germans haven't forgiven themselves

10/26/2006 2:45:33 PM

Reminds me of an old Klingon proverb...

10/26/2006 3:06:57 PM

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"german battleships"

where de zepplin's shcouting?

10/26/2006 3:46:11 PM

no ticket

10/26/2006 3:50:23 PM

haha, NO JUDEN

10/26/2006 9:16:42 PM

Not that is matters a whole lot in this conversation but check out this plane we just delivered to Israel. Normally this is a 15-20 passenger jet, now it is a high altitude surveillance plane and usually worth 50mil this one is work 325mil with all the equipment installed. They have bought three of these with options for 2 month, but in reality these are gifts from the US Government.

10/26/2006 9:40:37 PM

^and then we wonder why planes hit buiildings

10/26/2006 9:47:59 PM

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"^no I'm sure all of them have forgiven them for murdering their ancestors"

Most of my family was sent to Siberia and died. Should I feel personal rage at the Russians?

10/27/2006 1:16:01 PM

hmmm....so did this really happen or not?

10/27/2006 1:58:12 PM

^^Should blacks feel personal rage towards whites in America?

Should or shouldnt...I just am not really surprised at the possibility that some blacks would feel rage towards whites, Jews towards Germany, etc

10/27/2006 2:07:08 PM

No group as a whole should feel rage towards any other group.

But, certain blacks do have cause to feel outrage to certain types of whites.

10/27/2006 2:10:50 PM

and I think certain types of Israelis do have cause to feel outrage to certain types of Germans

10/27/2006 2:12:40 PM

It is such a double standard that Germany gets all the blame for WW2 while Japan honored for their "heroic" efforts in defending their home island.

People don't realize/know that Japan considered themselves the "master race" among the other asian countries and commited countless human atrocities towards the Chinese, Koreans, Indonesians, etc...

The loss of life commited by the Japanese equalled the Germans. The methods were in many cases more brutal that what the Nazis did.

10/27/2006 2:14:14 PM

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"^^Should blacks feel personal rage towards whites in America? Should or shouldnt...I just am not really surprised at the possibility that some blacks would feel rage towards whites, Jews towards Germany, etc"

They shouldn't. Sorry.

10/27/2006 2:21:54 PM

^^since when are the japanese honored for their actions in ww2?

10/27/2006 2:25:07 PM

^^nobody SHOULD

but if you are surprised that there are jews that still feel anger towards germany...well then you might have a naive viewpoint on this situation

10/27/2006 2:34:46 PM

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"It is such a double standard that Germany gets all the blame for WW2 while Japan honored for their "heroic" efforts in defending their home island."

The fuck are you even talking about? Did you miss the massive riots in China over what japanese school books said?

The bigger double standard is that no one minds that the US covered Japan in napalm.

10/27/2006 2:37:26 PM

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"^^since when are the japanese honored for their actions in ww2?"

ever watch any war documentaries, history channel, news???

The Kamikazee pilots get mad props for putting their country above their lives.

Did you know that German pilots flew into U.S. bombers to protect their homeland?

In reference to Japan, you hear about how the people were led by tradition, courage and willpower. (with a sprinkling of war atrocities where needed)

In reference to Nazi Germany, all you hear about is the Holocaust and the war atrocities.

If you think about WW2, what is the first thing that comes to mind? Probably Hitler, Nazis, Jews

10/27/2006 2:40:02 PM

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"The fuck are you even talking about? Did you miss the massive riots in China over what japanese school books said? The bigger double standard is that no one minds that the US covered Japan in napalm. "

This is exactly what I'm talking about. Japan has been able to rebuild and reconstruct much faster than Germany. Japan was allowed to keep their emperor around for "head of state" purposes. Meanwhile German women were raped by Red Army soldiers in the Eastern sectors of Berlin. Germany was split into 2 nations until the early '90s!

Germany has paid a much dearer price for WW2 than the Japanese ever did....Atom bomb or not

10/27/2006 2:42:45 PM

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"Japan has been able to rebuild and reconstruct much faster than Germany."

How so? Germany was the economic miracle of western europe during the 1960s. What are you basing that statement on?

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"Japan was allowed to keep their emperor around for "head of state" purposes."

This was a conscious decision made by allied leaders. Because the emperor was central to Japanese religion as the living descendant of the sun goddess, they realized that trying him for war crimes and punishing him while trying to rebuild Japan would be akin to stripping Jesus from christianity while still preserving it.

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"Meanwhile German women were raped by Red Army soldiers in the Eastern sectors of Berlin. Germany was split into 2 nations until the early '90s!"

Had the Soviets launched their invasion of northern Japan I'm sure that the situation would be much more similar in both respects.

Regardless, to make a blanket generalization saying that either country paid a much dearer price is pretty silly.

10/27/2006 3:03:50 PM

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"How so? Germany was the economic miracle of western europe during the 1960s. What are you basing that statement on?"

The fact that Germany was split in two different countries. Western Germany is your economic miracle, not Germany.

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"This was a conscious decision made by allied leaders. Because the emperor was central to Japanese religion as the living descendant of the sun goddess, they realized that trying him for war crimes and punishing him while trying to rebuild Japan would be akin to stripping Jesus from christianity while still preserving it."

Although not as deeply rooted in tradition, Adolf Hitler had a god-like status among the Nazi party and at one time was considered the savior of the German people after bringing them out of poverty from the Allies' strict enforcement of war reparations from WW 1.

Plus, the Soviets had already replaced Nazis as the number 1 enemy to the other Allied nations. U.S., France, and Great Britain couldn't control what happened in Soviet held Germany. They didn't have as much control over reconstruction in Germany like they had in Japan. The Germans were caught between a rock and a hard place.

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"Had the Soviets launched their invasion of northern Japan I'm sure that the situation would be much more similar in both respects. Regardless, to make a blanket generalization saying that either country paid a much dearer price is pretty silly."

The Soviets contributed to German suffering b/c of location and history. The Japanese had the luxury of being geographically/politically protected from any nations other than the United States.

It would be as if China had invaded Tokyo the way the Soviets invaded Berlin. Mass, mass murder in the name of revenge.

10/27/2006 3:14:33 PM

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"The fact that Germany was split in two different countries. Western Germany is your economic miracle, not Germany."

Well yeah. How are you evaluating this, by the median standard of living between the two?

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"Although not as deeply rooted in tradition, Adolf Hitler had a god-like status among the Nazi party and at one time was considered the savior of the German people after bringing them out of poverty from the Allies' strict enforcement of war reparations from WW 1."

god-like status =/= god status

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"Plus, the Soviets had already replaced Nazis as the number 1 enemy to the other Allied nations. U.S., France, and Great Britain couldn't control what happened in Soviet held Germany. They didn't have as much control over reconstruction in Germany like they had in Japan. The Germans were caught between a rock and a hard place."

1. that makes no sense
2. that has nothing to do with anything

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"The Soviets contributed to German suffering b/c of location and history. The Japanese had the luxury of being geographically/politically protected from any nations other than the United States."

The Japanese and the Soviets had a historical animosity ever since their imperialistic territorial disputes. The Soviets overran a tremendous amount of Japanese territory in China and Mongolia upon declaring war with them.

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"It would be as if China had invaded Tokyo the way the Soviets invaded Berlin. Mass, mass murder in the name of revenge."

Soviets held Japanese on par with Germans if not lower. A Soviet invasion would not have been a tea party.

10/27/2006 3:23:36 PM

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"Well yeah. How are you evaluating this, by the median standard of living between the two? "

The country was split into two halves. Families, friends, loved ones gone for lifetimes.

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"god-like status =/= god status"

tell that to the ones on the East side...

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"1. that makes no sense 2. that has nothing to do with anything"

It makes all the sense in the world because it is often overlooked as the Holocaust gets more attention. This is milder "holocaust" that went on for over half a century.

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"The Japanese and the Soviets had a historical animosity ever since their imperialistic territorial disputes. The Soviets overran a tremendous amount of Japanese territory in China and Mongolia upon declaring war with them. "

Overrunning territory and overrunning the nation's capitol are two very different things. The Japanese could care less about territory in Northern or Western China where there were no large populations of Japanese civilians.

The Germans on the otherhand were sacked at home by the Soviets and with no regulatory rules keeping the Soviets in check for human rights. This is after a much longer history of animosity between Germans and Slavs than what the Russians and Japs EVER had. There is no comparison.

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"Soviets held Japanese on par with Germans if not lower. A Soviet invasion would not have been a tea party."

The first sentence is purely subjective. Isn't second sentence just statingwhat I just said?

10/27/2006 3:35:41 PM

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"The country was split into two halves. Families, friends, loved ones gone for lifetimes."

I would rather see loved ones placed behind a wall than incinerated.

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"tell that to the ones on the East side..."

What does that mean.

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"It makes all the sense in the world because it is often overlooked as the Holocaust gets more attention. This is milder "holocaust" that went on for over half a century."

What is being overlooked? Comparing the division of Germany to the Holocaust is absurd.

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"Overrunning territory and overrunning the nation's capitol are two very different things."

So the ethnic Germans who relocated to Poland after 1939 and were subsequently raped and brutalized by advancing Soviets really didn't have it that bad?

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"The Japanese could care less about territory in Northern or Western China where there were no large populations of Japanese civilians."

Large numbers of Japanese civilians had been relocated to new territory as Japan expanded.

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"The Germans on the otherhand were sacked at home by the Soviets and with no regulatory rules keeping the Soviets in check for human rights."

Curtis Lemay stated that had the US not won the war he would have been tried for war crimes for his systematic burning of Japanese cities with napalm.

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"This is after a much longer history of animosity between Germans and Slavs than what the Russians and Japs EVER had."

German-Russian tensions were mostly a result of bolshevism, which occured after the Russo-Japanese war.

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"The first sentence is purely subjective."

So is your entire argument.

10/27/2006 4:06:03 PM

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"I would rather see loved ones placed behind a wall than incinerated. "

no relevance. Germany was continuously bombed over a period of 2 years with the same megatonage as the two Atom bombs. Many Germans were incinerated...

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"What does that mean."

In reference to your god doesn't equal god-like statement: The Germans on the East side had to deal with Stalin, who was the secular, communist "God" and who took over their half of the country. The East Germans' savior/leader had been replaced by an equally brutal and more psychotic madman.

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"What is being overlooked? Comparing the division of Germany to the Holocaust is absurd."

Ever read about the Russian sex slave trade? Okay, basically its biggest product came out of Soviet controlled Germany...ie German girls. These women and children were brought out of their homes and sent all over Russia to be concubines and sex servants to communist party officials, and the rest were sold to markets in the middle east and asia.

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"So the ethnic Germans who relocated to Poland after 1939 and were subsequently raped and brutalized by advancing Soviets really didn't have it that bad? "

You mentioned Soviet versus Japanese territories. The Germans in Poland are.....right next door to Germany. The Soviet/Japanese/Chinese border territories are nowhere near Japan. Japanese civilians in Japan weren't raped and beaten and sold into slavery.

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"Large numbers of Japanese civilians had been relocated to new territory as Japan expanded. "

your point? no relevance. The overwhelming majority of Japanese civilians were in the Philipines and in the Japanese islands

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"Curtis Lemay stated that had the US not won the war he would have been tried for war crimes for his systematic burning of Japanese cities with napalm. "

Indiscriminate warfare was commited during all of WW2 by both sides.

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"German-Russian tensions were mostly a result of bolshevism, which occured after the Russo-Japanese war. "

Partly true, but Germans and Russians know a great deal more about the other than Russians/Japanese. German/Teutonic/Saxon versus Slavic animosities go back far into the middle ages, and back under the Roman empire.

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"So is your entire argument. "

again, subjective. No comment.

Anyways, Nice talking with you Joshua, I'm going to have to get offline now. ttyl.

[Edited on October 27, 2006 at 4:35 PM. Reason : .]

10/27/2006 4:23:23 PM

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"no relevance. Germany was continuously bombed over a period of 2 years with the same megatonage as the two Atom bombs. Many Germans were incinerated"

I was referring to the conventional bombing. The German population was more spread out across the country. More Japanese lived in cities. The percentage of square miles per city destroyed in Japan was double that of Germany.

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"The East Germans' savior/leader had been replaced by an equally brutal and more psychotic madman."

And what does that have to do with anything?

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"Ever read about the Russian sex slave trade?"

So the exploitation of a few girls was worse than the Holocaust? I hate to break it to you, but the sex trade is a worldwide phenomenon.

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"Soviet/Japanese/Chinese border territories are nowhere near Japan."

The Pacific front of WWII was the largest battlefield in human history. Your notions of proximity are irrelevant and naive.

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"Japanese civilians in Japan weren't raped and beaten and sold into slavery."

Well, yeah, they were. Read a book.

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"your point? no relevance. The overwhelming majority of Japanese civilians were in the Philipines and in the Japanese islands"

You said that there was no large Japanese population in China. There was. You were wrong.

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"Indiscriminate warfare was commited during all of WW2 by both sides."

Then whats so special about the Soviet attrocities that you won't shut up about?

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"Partly true, but Germans and Russians know a great deal more about the other than Russians/Japanese."

The German Empire and the Russian Empire were on friendly terms throughout their existence. That was after your middle age/romanic animosities, so it renders your notion of long lasting rivalries between the two a moot point.

10/27/2006 4:43:11 PM

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"I was referring to the conventional bombing. The German population was more spread out across the country. More Japanese lived in cities. The percentage of square miles per city destroyed in Japan was double that of Germany."

Still doesn't compare to the overall loss of life as well as suffering for reparations for 50 years after the war.

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"And what does that have to do with anything?"

Read at the top

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"So the exploitation of a few girls was worse than the Holocaust? I hate to break it to you, but the sex trade is a worldwide phenomenon."

Do you know why its a worldwide "phenomenon"? Just like....Do you know why nuclear weapons got into the hands of 3rd world countries? and how the AK 47 has become the deadliest weapon because of how many people its killed? The answer to all these is Russia. The lawless vacuum of Eastern Europe after the war brought back many atrocities that hadn't been around for centuries since nations had formed police corps, etc...

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"The Pacific front of WWII was the largest battlefield in human history. Your notions of proximity are irrelevant and naive."

Geographically speaking, Asia is bigger than Europe. And proximity of nations is just as important to human history as anything. If you don't understand this, then there is no reason for debate.

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"Well, yeah, they were. Read a book."

Go back and read the post first. Think about it before you respond.

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"You said that there was no large Japanese population in China. There was. You were wrong."

you're digressing terribly here...Go back three posts. I said Japanese CIVILIANS. Of course there were Japanese in the area. They were called soldiers.plus, The Japanese surrendered before a final invasion. Germany was invaded without surrender....more lives lost, harsh ending. Tokyo doesn't have to be rebuilt like Berlin was rebuilt.

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"Then whats so special about the Soviet attrocities that you won't shut up about?"

okay, if you can't keep up with the conversation then don't respond to posts. The Soviet atrocities happened after the war, hince the entire point of my first post and the basis of the debate.

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"The German Empire and the Russian Empire were on friendly terms throughout their existence. That was after your middle age/romanic animosities, so it renders your notion of long lasting rivalries between the two a moot point."

Actually, I hope you are kidding when you say the "German Empire" since there was no unified German nation/state until the end of 19th century and beginning of the 20th. There was Prussia, the Hapsburgs, Austrian-Hungarian empires, but no Unified Germany or German Empire. Germanic, maybe but not German.

The Germans have looked down on the Russians during your "German empire" age, especially after a particular Russian prince lost terribly to a young up and coming French hero because he went against the advice of ALL his generals and led an army with no experience.

But this is all irrelevent since it must be a moot point. Please refrain from gracing me with any more of your "history lessons" before checking out a book.

10/27/2006 5:44:27 PM

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"Still doesn't compare to the overall loss of life as well as suffering for reparations for 50 years after the war."

Again: yeah, it does.

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"Do you know why its a worldwide "phenomenon"? Just like....Do you know why nuclear weapons got into the hands of 3rd world countries? and how the AK 47 has become the deadliest weapon because of how many people its killed? The answer to all these is Russia. The lawless vacuum of Eastern Europe after the war brought back many atrocities that hadn't been around for centuries since nations had formed police corps, etc..."

So are you seriously trying to say that Soviet actions during the Cold War created the worldwide sex trade? That might be one of the dumbest cop outs that I have ever seen.

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"And proximity of nations is just as important to human history as anything."

Well then, for the sake of debate, allow me to point out that China is next to Japan - of course the Sea of Japan is between them. Feel free to consult with Googlemaps if you don't believe me.

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"Go back and read the post first. Think about it before you respond."

Is it easier to say that than to admit that you are wrong?

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"you're digressing terribly here...Go back three posts. I said Japanese CIVILIANS. Of course there were Japanese in the area."

I was talking about civilians, dingus. It was established that we were talking about that.

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"Tokyo doesn't have to be rebuilt like Berlin was rebuilt."

Tokyo, like every single major Japanese city, was burned to the ground with a horrific loss of human life. Yes, it had to be rebuilt.

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"The Soviet atrocities happened after the war, hince the entire point of my first post and the basis of the debate."

You were talking about the rape and brutalization of German women by advancing soviet troops. If you want to talk about what they had to put up with after the war, then it is on par with every other eastern european nation behind the Iron Curtain - in fact I would say that neighboring nations had it worse as they were occupied by the Nazis for years and then occupied by the Soviets for decades. Also the word is spelled hence.

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"Actually, I hope you are kidding when you say the "German Empire" since there was no unified German nation/state until the end of 19th century and beginning of the 20th."

I was referring to the various entities that existed where modern Germany exists.

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"The Germans have looked down on the Russians during your "German empire" age, especially after a particular Russian prince lost terribly to a young up and coming French hero because he went against the advice of ALL his generals and led an army with no experience."

Can you actually produce some evidence that Germans looked down on Russians for centuries? That would be swell.

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"Please refrain from gracing me with any more of your "history lessons" before checking out a book."

Please get your facts straight before posting again.

10/27/2006 6:35:09 PM

wasn't this thread about the Israelis firing on german ships?

10/27/2006 10:16:13 PM

What,,,,

So, i'm just impressed that israel denied the whole thing instead of saying "SO WE COOKED A FEW SHIPS"

10/28/2006 12:48:32 AM

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"So are you seriously trying to say that Soviet actions during the Cold War created the worldwide sex trade? That might be one of the dumbest cop outs that I have ever seen."

Again, If you can't keep up with the conversation, then stop trying to be big boy...

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"Well then, for the sake of debate, allow me to point out that China is next to Japan - of course the Sea of Japan is between them. Feel free to consult with Googlemaps if you don't believe me."

And you prove nothing yet again....yawn.

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"Is it easier to say that than to admit that you are wrong?"

Its easier if you realize your own shortcomings in reading comprehension than if I have to spell them out to you which I have done too much now.

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"I was talking about civilians, dingus. It was established that we were talking about that."

Listen, Queef-Dick, the only thing that has been established is your incompetence. Keep coming, try again...

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"Tokyo, like every single major Japanese city, was burned to the ground with a horrific loss of human life. Yes, it had to be rebuilt."

Did you really go to NC State? Because if you did, I hope you didn't take any English classes above 200 level. Look up similes and metaphors in teh dictionary. Idiot.

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"You were talking about the rape and brutalization of German women by advancing soviet troops. If you want to talk about what they had to put up with after the war, then it is on par with every other eastern european nation behind the Iron Curtain - in fact I would say that neighboring nations had it worse as they were occupied by the Nazis for years and then occupied by the Soviets for decades. Also the word is spelled hence."

Again, read the fucking posts, you pathetic moron. This is what I typed:

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"Meanwhile German women were raped by Red Army soldiers in the Eastern sectors of Berlin. Germany was split into 2 nations until the early '90s!"

Where are the Soviets advancing? Berlin was divided into sectors after the war, dumbass. And guess who got the Eastern sectors? You are definately a jedi master of PWNT.

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"I was referring to the various entities that existed where modern Germany exists."

you didn't know what you were referring to because if you had then you would have named them correctly....

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"Can you actually produce some evidence that Germans looked down on Russians for centuries? That would be swell."

Everybody in Europe thought of the Russians as rough barbarians. After a visit to Western European courts, Peter the Great came back with a new idea. We should start shaving and bathing!

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"Please get your facts straight before posting again."

wow, just wow....

10/28/2006 1:25:37 AM

wow, just wow.

you didn't address anything that i mentioned, rather you kept up your pattern of ignoring facts and turning to sarcasm instead of actually admitting that you are wrong.

grasping at straws is a bitch, ain't it?

10/28/2006 2:36:49 AM

ok, i only read the first post

kinda makes me wonder if the jews still have it out for the germans or something though

10/28/2006 4:04:37 AM

Remember the USS LIBERTY!!!!

10/28/2006 4:28:56 AM

^^^^that is one of the most pathetic responses i've ever read in the soapbox. congrats on stooping that low

10/28/2006 10:37:09 AM

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"wow, just wow. you didn't address anything that i mentioned, rather you kept up your pattern of ignoring facts and turning to sarcasm instead of actually admitting that you are wrong. grasping at straws is a bitch, ain't it? "

What is there to respond to ? You repeat yourself like a retarded stepchild and you don't even read my posts before trying to argue them. Ignoring facts? How about ignoring reading skills.

Heres a hint, why don't you admit that you can't read and it will save me the favor of having to continuously call you out like the dumbass bitch you are.

10/28/2006 12:48:00 PM

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"^^^^that is one of the most pathetic responses i've ever read in the soapbox. congrats on stooping that low"

read the posts. This kid is a retarded broken record.

10/28/2006 12:48:42 PM

you compared the status of hitler to the status of the emporer
thats pretty retarded too

10/28/2006 1:03:50 PM

i havent been reading this but the Emporer of Japan was a crazy mother fucker. The japanese did some horrible shit to the chinese....rape of Nanking anyone?

also Unit 731 had some nasty shit going on in it
http://www.ww2pacific.com/unit731.html

10/28/2006 2:43:53 PM

crazywade:



that is all.

^ But yeah, the emperor was horrible. Its a tragedy that he was never prosecuted for the war crimes that he ordered. US prosecutors actually coached his subordinates in order to protect him.

[Edited on October 28, 2006 at 5:28 PM. Reason : .]

10/28/2006 5:26:14 PM

Joshua =

[Edited on October 28, 2006 at 6:06 PM. Reason : .]

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"^ But yeah, the emperor was horrible. Its a tragedy that he was never prosecuted for the war crimes that he ordered. US prosecutors actually coached his subordinates in order to protect him."

and now he tries to make a point.....Way to look shit up between breaks, Ed.

[Edited on October 28, 2006 at 6:19 PM. Reason : .]

10/28/2006 6:06:00 PM

I had actually already mentioned that, I just felt the need to expand on it after that post.

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"This was a conscious decision made by allied leaders. Because the emperor was central to Japanese religion as the living descendant of the sun goddess, they realized that trying him for war crimes and punishing him while trying to rebuild Japan would be akin to stripping Jesus from christianity while still preserving it."

The point had already been made. If you read posts as much as you tell others to you would have known that.

Again, you have been proven wrong. Now make a sarcastic remark and call me stupid.

10/28/2006 9:03:33 PM