ACORN (Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now):

"The nonprofit group defends itself from similar allegations nearly every election. This fall, thousands of registrations turned in by ACORN are coming under scrutiny in St. Louis, Denver, Philadelphia and Columbus, Ohio."

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/stcharles/story/08E45EED6B7E1BBC86257215007C8F94?OpenDocument

By any means necessary--including fraud.

11/3/2006 1:20:46 PM

Quote :

"Meanwhile, an ACORN worker in St. Louis who was fired this month is accusing the group of directing its paid workers to campaign for Senate candidate Claire McCaskill, a Democrat. The group denies the claim, saying that while no law bars it from supporting a candidate, it has not endorsed McCaskill in her challenge to Sen. Jim Talent, a Republican. ACORN fired Josephine Perkins this month after a co-worker accused her of swiping a purse at the organization's office, 4304 Manchester Avenue."

Wow, I wonder how they'll spin this one? This is wrong, but expected. ACORN is a far-left "progressive" group in the tradition of moveon.org, who should really be investigated for this exact sort of thing.

[Edited on November 3, 2006 at 2:53 PM. Reason : .]

11/3/2006 2:53:22 PM

There is nothing conclusive in that article, except 4 fraudulent ballots have been found. The fired employee herself is pretty sketchy, and the challenge of 5000 registrations from poorer areas came from a Republican group (which is also sketchy).

And I also wonder what the Republicans are telling the people they call to validate their registrations.

11/3/2006 3:08:24 PM

just goes to show that extremism on BOTH sides is the problem with our government

11/3/2006 3:20:13 PM

How many times has Randy mentioned "moveon.org"

For as much as he claims that is what seems to be influencing democrats, he's the only guy I've ever noticed refer to it

11/3/2006 3:45:38 PM

Republican groups are in the same hot water. Let put people who try to perpetrate voter fraud in jail and not pretend it's a partisan issue.

11/3/2006 4:11:08 PM

^^

^

11/3/2006 4:34:25 PM

i didnt know moveon.org existed untill he brought it up.

11/3/2006 4:35:53 PM

You really didn't know moveon.org existed until Randy mentioned it?
Shit the thing was on CNN every 15 minutes during the '04 election

11/3/2006 4:49:43 PM

So, I guess the alleged voter fraud incidents in Denver, Philadelphia, and Columbus, Ohio, are just flukes? On top of the St. Louis incident? Seems to me that what is "sketchy" is defense of this left-wing group and its tactics.

11/3/2006 5:56:07 PM

simpsons did it

11/3/2006 6:01:17 PM

Quote :

"Or is this just some sloppy way (for an ACORN worker) to get paid for $8 an hour to make it appear that they're really doing the work they're hired to do?"

OMG!!!

11/3/2006 9:51:48 PM

^^^ That article is a bit unclear. Anyone can "allege" voter fraud, but there is absolutely no evidence in that article of any wide-spread fraudulent activity. I think it's equally fraudulent for them to scrutinize the 5000 votes en masse, with no evidence, of lower-income areas to get them thrown on. I highly doubt those Republicans calling BS are doing so for honorable reasons.

Also, it seems that in 2004, ACORN was accused of fraud, but later indemnified when their accuser had to admit in court that they were lying.

This article is about this exact same story, but spun from the other side: http://mydd.com/story/2006/10/30/195410/27

They are painting the Republican group as the fraudsters in this situation.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/10/30/191920/50

Here's another story of a Republican group pretending to be a democratic group, and calling voters at annoying times with annoying messages on purpose. This is actually the second incidence of a Republican group doing this, this election season.

11/4/2006 1:23:26 AM

Daily Kos? You might as well post some news from the North Korean Central News Agency. At least now we know where you get your news and we can stop taking you seriously

11/4/2006 1:48:40 AM

Did you really mean to use that smiley, or were you actually being facetious?

11/4/2006 1:55:53 AM

oh he is serious

11/4/2006 10:00:52 AM

Am I the only one that tries not to use some blatantly biased site when I post something?

I mean, occasionally I'll let it go, but I usually try to go major network rather than the partisan hack sites.

11/4/2006 10:02:54 AM

Quote :

"At least now we know where you get your news and we can stop taking you seriously "

Remember guys, it's http://www.newsmax.com or you just are not credible.

11/4/2006 10:28:53 AM

^That's one of the sites I steer away from (for reading and for posting)

I'd actually rather get my news from a source I hate, because our biases work each other out and we meet in the middle.

11/4/2006 10:34:26 AM

^^Well, the only exercise Randy gets is when he jumps to conclusions. After all, how do you think he became Tha Big Girl (aside from an identity crisis confusing boy and girl, or sex change, which would be as ironic as a prominant anti-gay religous leader having sex with a male prostitute)?

[Edited on November 4, 2006 at 1:00 PM. Reason : ugh]

11/4/2006 12:54:34 PM

Quote :

"Am I the only one that tries not to use some blatantly biased site when I post something? "

It's all in the eye of the beholder. Some people think that anything from the networks is all a part of the vast left-wing conspiracy. Some people think it's all a part of the right-wing conspiracy. I had someone on another board blast me for posting a CNN link on the Lebanon-Israel crisis because "CNN is in the pockets of the right-wing facists in the government right now and wants to destroy Hezbollah".

This is why I don't read commentaries and try to stick to the hard news from the AP and such.



[Edited on November 4, 2006 at 1:04 PM. Reason : .]

11/4/2006 1:01:19 PM

Quote :

"I usually try to go major network rather than the partisan hack sites."

I like CBS, but you can't go to them without someone going "OMG ITS DAN RATHER BLAGRAARRARaGAAHHH!!!!!111" these days. THe only real reason I prefer CBS probably is because it comes on right after the WRAL news, which is the best regional broadcast bar-none.

I don't like cable news b/c I feel like I'm watching a lazer light show or the market ticker all the time and it hurts my eyes.

[Edited on November 4, 2006 at 2:14 PM. Reason : .]

11/4/2006 2:13:27 PM