Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
Preseason:
1. Florida (63) 2. North Carolina (9) 3. Kansas 4. Pittsburgh 5. LSU 6. UCLA 7. Ohio St. 8. Georgetown 9. Wisconsin 10. Arizona 11. Alabama 12. Duke 13. Texas A&M 14. Memphis 15. Boston Coll. 16. Marquette 17. Washington 18. Connecticut 19. Creighton 20. Syracuse 21. Texas 22. Kentucky 23. Georgia Tech 24. Nevada 25. Tennessee
Creighton has to be happy...suprised Memphis isnt a bit higher, same with Texas, Wisconsin a bit higher than I thought
25 baby!
[Edited on November 6, 2006 at 2:24 PM. Reason : d] 11/6/2006 2:22:10 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
15, 18, 20, and 23 have no business being in the Top 25 at the beginning of the year. While number 12 should be b/t 20 and 25. The only reason thsoe teams are there is based on hype and program prestige. 11/6/2006 2:25:30 PM |
shields27 All American 1806 Posts user info edit post |
wonder why we aren't on it? 11/6/2006 2:25:42 PM |
hcnguyen Suspended 4297 Posts user info edit post |
if we had simmons we'de be around 15
[Edited on November 6, 2006 at 2:27 PM. Reason : ahead of bc] 11/6/2006 2:26:58 PM |
Crede All American 7339 Posts user info edit post |
Thoughts:
Florida??
Duke is waaaaaay overrated.
Boston College is about right.
Georgia Tech probably shouldn't be in the top 25. 11/6/2006 2:28:51 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
Florida returns everyone from last year, why wouldnt they be #1? 11/6/2006 2:29:21 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
UConn, GT, and Syracuse should NOT be in the Top 25. They have very talented young players but have to prove it just like UNC did last year. Duke is way too high without Paulus and with an unproven McRoberts/frosh. BC is NOT a Top 25 team without Craig Smith. You can take that to the bank.
** Florida should get every #1 vote and UNC should be the unanimous #2 team
V actually I'm 'hating' on my favorite team as well in this thread.
[Edited on November 6, 2006 at 2:30 PM. Reason : x] 11/6/2006 2:29:48 PM |
Crede All American 7339 Posts user info edit post |
This just in: NYM hates Boston College. 11/6/2006 2:30:32 PM |
Crede All American 7339 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Florida returns everyone from last year, why wouldnt they be #1?" |
UNC has basically the same team as last year plus a ridiculous freshman class. I suppose Florida gets #1 simply because they earned it last year, but I'm sure UNC is the favorite to win the tournament in vegas right now.
Yep: http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaab/odds/futures
[Edited on November 6, 2006 at 2:41 PM. Reason : http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaab/odds/futures]11/6/2006 2:31:31 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
I forgot about Paulus being out... isnt Oden hurt too for Ohio State? 11/6/2006 2:31:55 PM |
pwrstrkdf250 Suspended 60006 Posts user info edit post |
is it ok to like basketball once your team is ranked? 11/6/2006 2:32:17 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
fuck no!
remember...
Fake girls get all dressed up Thinkin they look all goody But me and MY girls look hott rockin some sweats and a hoodie
[Edited on November 6, 2006 at 2:35 PM. Reason : d] 11/6/2006 2:33:16 PM |
TaterSalad All American 6256 Posts user info edit post |
We're not ranked in the preseason poll!??! FIRE HERB!!!!!!!1 11/6/2006 2:34:00 PM |
Brass Monkey All American 13560 Posts user info edit post |
hmm...no Michigan State. kind of surprising b/c they usually are in the top 25 off of name alone. is Pitt really supposed to be that good? 11/6/2006 2:34:37 PM |
Crede All American 7339 Posts user info edit post |
Others Receiving Votes: Gonzaga 88, Wichita St. 78, Louisville 77, Southern Ill. 70, Illinois 52, Xavier 44, Villanova 39, Air Force 26, San Diego St. 24, Hofstra 20, Oklahoma St. 19, Michigan 17, Michigan St. 15, Maryland 12, DePaul 11, Florida St. 9, George Mason 6, Indiana 5, Houston 3, Geo. Washington 2, Winthrop 2, BYU 2, Bucknell 1, Utah 1, New Mexico St. 1, Saint Louis 1
[Edited on November 6, 2006 at 2:35 PM. Reason : Florida State??] 11/6/2006 2:35:01 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
I am all giddy... when do real games start? 2 weeks? 11/6/2006 2:36:23 PM |
Crede All American 7339 Posts user info edit post |
someone iframe this: http://graphics.fansonly.com/photos/schools/acc/sports/m-baskbl/auto_pdf/0607schedule.pdf
[Edited on November 6, 2006 at 2:38 PM. Reason : .] 11/6/2006 2:37:45 PM |
CPanther90 Veteran 286 Posts user info edit post |
Oden is out until January. That sucks he'll miss the big showdown in Chapel Hell. 11/6/2006 2:38:46 PM |
Brass Monkey All American 13560 Posts user info edit post |
I don't know about Tennessee, but the Pack's first real game of the regular season is this Friday against Wofford. I really want to go, but I'm heading back to Charlotte to make up celebrating my birthday with my family. I told them I have to be here for the GT game, so I'll come home next weekend. After seeing us play against Northern State I've realized that our team needs the fans more than ever. We need a full, loud student section for every game this season to help our boys out. 11/6/2006 2:41:58 PM |
Crede All American 7339 Posts user info edit post |
I've got excellent news! NCSU is a 40:1 pick to win the championship. Could be worse... http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaab/odds/futures 11/6/2006 2:42:48 PM |
Crazywade All American 4918 Posts user info edit post |
NCAA Div. II Barton College FTW 11/6/2006 2:43:15 PM |
spro All American 4329 Posts user info edit post |
^^ 40:1?
man, to get 100:1 you must have to be prairie view a&m 11/6/2006 2:44:46 PM |
Crede All American 7339 Posts user info edit post |
The "field" (every team that doesn't have their own odds) is 12:1. So basically, it's more likely that a shitty team no one's ever heard of will win the NCAA championship than the Pack. 11/6/2006 2:46:55 PM |
Aristotle Suspended 2231 Posts user info edit post |
Duke has been in the top 10 for like 10 years. preseason doesn't count. We will be back up there after the Indiana and Georgetown games. Duke is underated. 11/6/2006 2:48:03 PM |
Crede All American 7339 Posts user info edit post |
Duke won't be bad, but they'll be painfully mediocre this year. Maybe a 30-40 team, but nowhere near the top 25. Look for solid losses to flat out better teams.
They built their program around Redick and he's now gone. Koojawooski is a genuine coaching expert but Duke was due for a decline even before Paulus went out.
[Edited on November 6, 2006 at 2:52 PM. Reason : .] 11/6/2006 2:49:12 PM |
Aristotle Suspended 2231 Posts user info edit post |
^You are an idiot. Duke has always had years where we lost everybody and came back even stronger each year. this freshman class is better than the one 4 years ago. Duke will be like 03 worst case scenario. you are dumb if you think we will fall out of the top 25.
LMAO BUILT THE PROGRAM AROUND JJ
[Edited on November 6, 2006 at 2:55 PM. Reason : YEP YOU'RE RIGHT. JJ MADE DUKE NOBODY WOULD KNOW ABOUT DUKE WITHOUT JJ] 11/6/2006 2:54:22 PM |
Crede All American 7339 Posts user info edit post |
Redick was the go-to guy on every crucial play for the last 3 years. Their offense was a series of screens designed to get Redick open. Don't kid yourself. 11/6/2006 2:56:55 PM |
Aristotle Suspended 2231 Posts user info edit post |
that was a problem. 11/6/2006 3:01:43 PM |
golfpack All American 2278 Posts user info edit post |
Alabama @ #11 !!!! 11/6/2006 3:04:14 PM |
hershculez All American 8483 Posts user info edit post |
LSU surprises me a little bit. I'll have to add them to my list of schools to dislike simply for the fact that both their football and basketball teams are ranked in the top 10. damn you texas and tenn! 11/6/2006 3:09:04 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
By conference:
ACC - 4 Big Ten - 2 Big 12 - 3 SEC - 5 Big East - 5 11/6/2006 3:13:11 PM |
Crede All American 7339 Posts user info edit post |
This will be the year that 'parity' gets repeated ad nauseum. I'm expecting a lot stronger competition from mid-majors. 11/6/2006 3:14:31 PM |
hcnguyen Suspended 4297 Posts user info edit post |
i wonder where they would have put mason had they returned everybody 11/6/2006 3:15:26 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
they got one 25 place vote 11/6/2006 3:15:49 PM |
hcnguyen Suspended 4297 Posts user info edit post |
what about wintrhop? 11/6/2006 3:17:14 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
har har... no idea 11/6/2006 3:18:14 PM |
ENDContra All American 5160 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The "field" (every team that doesn't have their own odds) is 12:1. So basically, it's more likely that a shitty team no one's ever heard of will win the NCAA championship than the Pack." |
When you consider that the "field" is made up of 200+ teams, then of course they have better odds...or at least, Im not going to offer you 40x what you bet when you have that many chances to win.11/6/2006 10:28:17 PM |
Hoggman187 All American 960 Posts user info edit post |
duke is not waaaaaay overrated. maybe 12 is a bit high, maybe more like 15 or so. but this will be a very very good team by the end of the year, much more dangerous than last years team. also, paulus will probably be available for the first game of the year. so the gloom and doom scenario without him is gone. they are infinitely more athletic than they were last year and yes redick was the focus last year but the drop off without him will not be that great. if anything they will be better because other guys will be forced to step up and take some responsibility instead of jj watching. 11/7/2006 12:45:39 AM |
PackGuitar All American 6059 Posts user info edit post |
coach k always coaches well with a team that isnt expected much of 11/7/2006 1:44:56 AM |
Mattallica All American 6512 Posts user info edit post |
this is all true
but duke will not be that good
they usually have "that" guy , dockery, ewing, etc that could do everything good
this year who is it? nelson? mcclure?
they are just too young 11/7/2006 2:47:42 AM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
not to mention paulus is a turnover machine 11/7/2006 2:52:42 AM |
Hoggman187 All American 960 Posts user info edit post |
just wait and see. 11/7/2006 3:05:06 AM |
Mattallica All American 6512 Posts user info edit post |
k
not saying they won't be good
but not that good 11/7/2006 3:06:34 AM |
JT3bucky All American 23258 Posts user info edit post |
soon to see Illinois Nova and Louisville ranked 11/7/2006 3:06:38 AM |
Hoggman187 All American 960 Posts user info edit post |
i really think that by the end of the regular season, this duke team will be better and more versatile (sp?, shit im at work at 338 am) than the past few seasons. 11/7/2006 3:35:08 AM |
Mattallica All American 6512 Posts user info edit post |
even without redick, williams and dockery? 11/7/2006 3:40:17 AM |
Hoggman187 All American 960 Posts user info edit post |
yeah, i think so. i think this team loses 7-8 games through various growing pains of having a young team. but come tourney time, i think they will be a 3/4 seed and will make a deep run (round of 8 or maybe even a sleeper final 4 team). once the freshman get used to playing the college game this team has a much better make up. they will be deeper, at least 8 deep. considerably more athletic (mcroberts, thomas, henderson, nelson). question marks will include pure shooting (pocius and scheyer are going to have to fill that void consistently). rebounding (mcroberts will have to stay out of foul trouble and zoubek will have to continue to be as impressive as he has been thus far). experience (no seniors). paulus' development (does he make the jump from promising freshman to team leader, cut down on turnovers, etc.). the peices are there, though some of those peices are young and unproven. 11/7/2006 3:56:14 AM |
Mattallica All American 6512 Posts user info edit post |
Man, I'm just saying that when they NEED a bucket, who will they go to? Mcroberts? He will be doubled.
Paulus is not that player, Henderson is too young same for scheyer. Nelson and Mcclure are not that player either 11/7/2006 4:00:06 AM |
Hoggman187 All American 960 Posts user info edit post |
yeah, that is a valid point. henderson is young but i think he will be the guy by the end. with his athleticism he will def. be able to create his own shot and get to the basket. but very valid argument. 11/7/2006 4:05:30 AM |
Mattallica All American 6512 Posts user info edit post |
no doubt henderson will be awesome
but I dunno if it will be this season 11/7/2006 4:07:17 AM |