so they took what Kornheiser said and then said the opposite... makes total sense


for this page

heres about half of it:

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"Quarterbacks usually have a fairly cordial relationship with each other, and you hardly ever see one quarterback go after another. But that changed last night, when Broncos quarterback Jay Cutler failed to convert on a fourth down, and was on the receiving end of some trash talk from Chargers quarterback Philip Rivers: Video via Pro Football Talk, which notes that Chargers running back LaDainian Tomlinson likes to lecture others about having class and not taunting opponents. I wonder what Tomlinson said to Rivers."

[Edited on December 25, 2007 at 12:21 PM. Reason : d]

12/25/2007 12:21:02 PM

if you go to chargers.com there is a press conference with Phil after the game (after LT's) for free. Only one question about the incident and Phil said "It's nothing to write about"

[Edited on December 25, 2007 at 12:24 PM. Reason : spelling]

12/25/2007 12:24:13 PM

I think just about any player with somewhat of a brain would say that

12/25/2007 12:27:15 PM

yeah this is turning out to be not such a big deal

12/25/2007 12:58:03 PM

I dont think anyone thought it would be a big deal, maybe if LT or Champ would have done it

12/25/2007 1:01:18 PM

philip rivers is a punk. go ahead. blast me. i dont care. hes a charger so i cant see why anyone gives a hoot about him anyway. i will say this... i feel very sorry that norv turner is his coach. he coached my team for 7 years... 7 years too many

[Edited on December 25, 2007 at 1:42 PM. Reason : added to post]

12/25/2007 1:39:28 PM

I feel very sorry that you're a skins fan.

Norv is doing fine out in SD. And he's a QB guru, so Rivers should benefit under his tutelage. Whether Norv and Rivers can guide a team to the superbowl remains to be seen, but they have a decent shot this year. They are peaking at the right time.

12/25/2007 1:44:03 PM

Would have been awesome if he said. Who's your daddy!

12/25/2007 1:47:07 PM

12/25/2007 1:49:27 PM

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"he coached my team for 7 years"

12/25/2007 2:36:12 PM

From that video, it looks like he is saying that right baby and waiving bye too him


He's a soldier!

[Edited on December 25, 2007 at 5:02 PM. Reason : asdf]

12/25/2007 5:02:07 PM

i liked that stat they showed during the game where rivers, roflsburger, and kurt warner had the best record of any qb in their first 30 starts

12/25/2007 8:40:54 PM

If this was an NCSU player talkin trash to a UNC player, none of us would talk bad about it. It's a rivalry, people talk trash. I don't understand why this is a big deal.

12/26/2007 10:02:43 AM

its not a big deal

most people on the internet are fucking idiots

12/26/2007 10:07:42 AM

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"its not a big deal most people on the internet are fucking idiots"

12/26/2007 10:14:26 AM

if it were Cutler doing it to P.Riv you would all be tripping over yourselves to call him a thug, punk etc., you KNOW you would

12/26/2007 10:28:46 AM

i just wish p riv hadn't thrown so many picks this year

12/26/2007 11:01:13 AM

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""its not a big deal most people on the internet are fucking idiots""

Quote :

"i just wish p riv hadn't thrown so many picks this year"

and seriously, Cutler was talkin shit to the defensive guys that Rivers was goin out to congratulate cuz hes a fuckin leader. Backin his guys up and saying "Bye baby" to cutler isn't worth writing anything about(to steal his words). Just people that have nothin better to do makin a big deal about it

12/26/2007 11:17:09 AM

p riv needs to lose this weekend, k thanks

12/26/2007 11:19:28 AM

^^ once again, if it were reversed and Cutler was doing it to Rivers EVERYONE on here would be all over Cutler

12/26/2007 11:20:50 AM

^not me, but i can see where you're going with that. But you can go to any biased board such as this one and say that about any athlete from said school. If it happened b/t two QB's that DIDN'T go to NCSU, then everyone on this board would think nothing of it. But since it involves Rivers, everyone on this board feels something about it.

What im trying to say is that you can't blame the people on this board because Rivers went to NCSU. Theres an obvious bias. I for one, believe he can talk shit to anyone he wants as long as he doesn't cross the line. Saying "Bye baby" or "Crybaby" to the opposing QB as he is talkin shit to defensive players isn't crossing the line for me.

12/26/2007 11:31:44 AM

well I think there are cases where you have to be objective... for example, I think Leonard Little is a piece of shit that should be locked up...doesnt matter if he went to UT or not. And I also think Peyton Manning will go down as the greatest QB of all time... doesnt matter if he went to UT or not

12/26/2007 11:33:48 AM

philip = zabka.



[Edited on December 26, 2007 at 12:33 PM. Reason : d]

12/26/2007 12:30:29 PM

Cobra Kai!

12/26/2007 12:43:45 PM

^^^well sure, but im bein objective, and hopefully everyone else is when i/they say that theres nothing wrong with what he did

12/26/2007 12:49:27 PM

^^^^ i see your point but i don't think rivers has gotten too close to leonard little range, don't know if that's a great example

to draw a parallel you'd have to come up with a UT player who did something somewhat questionable that no one outside of UT fans remember

like gerald riggs jr eating the last of the mashed potatoes without asking anyone else if they wanted any

[Edited on December 26, 2007 at 1:19 PM. Reason : =]

12/26/2007 1:16:25 PM

oh course he isnt close to Leonard Little... my point is 95% of the people on here would all of a sudden cease being objective if Cutler had done the same thing to Rivers... and thats bullshit

12/26/2007 1:33:24 PM

what would you say about Brady if he had put his naked butt and rectum on somone's face?

12/26/2007 1:36:40 PM

if he did it in a locker room where plenty of people were already in various stages of undress as is normal in a locker room, then I wouldnt have cared... and it wasnt "on"

[Edited on December 26, 2007 at 1:39 PM. Reason : d]

12/26/2007 1:38:45 PM

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"Cobra Kai!"

Mercy is for the weak, here, on the street, or in competiton.. Man face you he is enemy, and enemy deserves no mercyWhat is the problem Mr. Lawrence?!

12/26/2007 1:44:10 PM

^^Then I think you have answered your question.

I personally wouldn't have cared at all if Cutler had done that to Rivers.

Especially if Rivers was the one starting it by talking smack to the defense as they were walking off the field.

[Edited on December 26, 2007 at 1:44 PM. Reason : ^^]

12/26/2007 1:44:38 PM

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""after the Broncos last drive ended, rivers was out on the field pointing for Cutler to get off the field, calling him a baby, and at least one fuck fudge you"

fixed it for ya!

12/26/2007 1:49:05 PM

^^ I doubt it... but maybe, MAYBE you are in the 5% here that can think rationally

12/26/2007 1:50:19 PM

hahaha

Jaybee = most people on the internet

12/26/2007 1:52:20 PM

I mean, I wouldn't have thought that makes him classless in any way.

I would probably have bood him for it, just like I hope denver fans bood rivers for his jawing.

But sports aren't supposed to be objective anyway.

12/26/2007 1:52:47 PM

^ wrong... who you cheer for isnt objective, but almost everything else is... otherwise you just get childish "my team is better because they are my team wah wah wah" shit or I like the Giants, so therefore Barry doing steroids isnt bad because it was for my team... shit like that should end around age 12 if you really actually watch sports.

Do I like the Pats? no, I hate them, but that has NOTHING to do with my judgment that they are easily the best team this year, to think otherwise is just being retarded.

[Edited on December 26, 2007 at 2:33 PM. Reason : f]

12/26/2007 2:32:04 PM

Again, I don't think this is that confusing. You hate opposing teams players who talk smack and you love it when your players talk smack. It's just how it works.

12/26/2007 2:35:14 PM

^ that assuming you like players who talk smack... a LOT of people dont

12/26/2007 2:39:25 PM

^ as far as I've ever seen, as long as you back it up people love your smack talk. Try and see how many Duke fans disliked JJ Redick.

12/26/2007 2:49:23 PM

lots of people hated Deion, and he might have been the greatest cover CB ever

12/26/2007 3:21:44 PM

whats funny is that people can sit back on the internet and have their "holier than thou" moment when in real life, if they were in that athletes shoes, they would have done the same thing

12/26/2007 3:24:16 PM

whats funny is that people can sit back on the internet and have their "holier than thou" moment blaming other people on the internet for being "holier than thou"






and just for the record, I never said I had a problem with what Rivers did, I just said it seemed odd, and that a good deal of the people on here who are claiming that "oh all athletes do that, nothing at all wrong with that" would be the first ones calling "thug, bitch, no class" etc. if Mike Vick, Cutler, TJ Yates, or some shithead from Maryland etc. did it

[Edited on December 26, 2007 at 3:34 PM. Reason : d]

12/26/2007 3:30:59 PM

^ Oh, yeah, I agree with that 100%. I just feel like the national media tried to make it into something larger than it actually was.

12/26/2007 4:01:56 PM

thats all I was saying... the national media wont make a big deal out of it because its the Chargers, and two young "relatively" unknown players

12/26/2007 4:05:33 PM

^^ did the national media say anything about it outside of the game announcers?

i saw no mention of it on the denver post website and only a small one on the san diego whatever newspaper site

it seems like tww is discussing this way more than any legitimate news sources

[Edited on December 26, 2007 at 4:53 PM. Reason : *]

12/26/2007 4:51:54 PM

^ yeah, you're right it wasn't really that widespread, I guess I was just peeved at how big of a deal they made it sound during the game.

12/26/2007 7:35:40 PM

the chargers are gonna be nasty next year as well... 33 mill in cap space.... they can pick up any number of great FA...

12/27/2007 9:54:45 AM

Here's a San Diego Union-Tribune article about the "smack talking" during MNF. It seems to be objective, and tell the whole story. There's a classic picture of Philip in there too.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20071227/news_1s27chargers.html

My favorite part:

Quote :

"Of all the teams to question what Rivers has done, Denver seems an odd antagonist. In four career starts against the Broncos, Rivers has a 119.8 passer rating, and the Chargers have won all four by an average of 39-13. In those games, he has completed 69.6 of his passes for 960 yards and seven touchdowns with two interceptions. “I understand some of the frustration is they've lost four in a row to this team,” Rivers said. “People don't like losing four in a row.”"

12/27/2007 11:08:10 AM

12/27/2007 11:17:17 AM

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"“I don't really care for the guy, first of all,” Broncos cornerback Champ Bailey told the Rocky Mountain News yesterday. “He's not a respectable guy right now, because you talk too much trash and do this and that, but you're really not a great player in this league right now. You're surrounded by great players, but you're not a great player. “I think he needs to understand where he stands in this league – on his team first and foremost. They've got a lot of classy guys on that team. He kind of represents the classless guy on that team. He's definitely lost my respect.” "

just shows the other viewpoint, that not everyone views it as "just being a football player"... I think Champ is more qualified as a football player than anyone on here and he took it as being classless. And obviously he isnt just saying that because its a rival, as he said, in HIS opinion there are a lot of great players with class on San Diego.


By the way, I hate Champ Bailey (respect him, but hate him)

12/27/2007 11:41:34 AM