stone All American 6003 Posts user info edit post |
god get us a qb 11/26/2006 4:08:07 PM |
PackMan92 All American 8284 Posts user info edit post |
second 11/26/2006 4:08:31 PM |
lthlsnke260 Veteran 466 Posts user info edit post |
that last pass was about 10 yards away from steve smith 11/26/2006 4:08:32 PM |
Førte All American 23525 Posts user info edit post |
ibtl 11/26/2006 4:08:39 PM |
statefan24 All American 9157 Posts user info edit post |
he is brett favre without the history 11/26/2006 4:08:56 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
jesus, you people are worse than state fans 11/26/2006 4:08:59 PM |
Lutz All American 1102 Posts user info edit post |
i heard Jay Davis was on the market 11/26/2006 4:09:08 PM |
stone All American 6003 Posts user info edit post |
why the lock, he sucks. he is not moving our team at all this season. 11/26/2006 4:09:14 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
11/26/2006 4:09:32 PM |
Novicane All American 15416 Posts user info edit post |
11/26/2006 4:09:33 PM |
ssclark Black and Proud 14179 Posts user info edit post |
it's true 11/26/2006 4:09:34 PM |
wolfAApack All American 9980 Posts user info edit post |
[old] 11/26/2006 4:10:14 PM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
11/26/2006 4:10:52 PM |
superchevy All American 20874 Posts user info edit post |
he does. he should've checked his hot route. his corner left him to blitz, and he had linebacker on the opposite side of the field assigned to him. a quick dump to the hot route would've yielded atleast 10 yards, and the receiver was clapping his hands like crazy to let delhomme know. 11/26/2006 4:11:22 PM |
roddy All American 25834 Posts user info edit post |
maybe Stone will declare? 11/26/2006 4:11:23 PM |
BigHitSunday Dick Danger 51059 Posts user info edit post |
Jake Gohomme
FOR JAKE 11/26/2006 4:11:28 PM |
Konami All American 10855 Posts user info edit post |
infinitely funnier than firefox
and that was hilarious 11/26/2006 4:11:31 PM |
eleusis All American 24527 Posts user info edit post |
put in weinke. 11/26/2006 4:11:51 PM |
spro All American 4329 Posts user info edit post |
oh dear 11/26/2006 4:12:26 PM |
BigHitSunday Dick Danger 51059 Posts user info edit post |
!!!!!!! 11/26/2006 4:19:30 PM |
ben94gt All American 5084 Posts user info edit post |
Weinke!!!! 11/26/2006 6:52:24 PM |
lafta All American 14880 Posts user info edit post |
we need a good offensive line too thats our only weakness 11/26/2006 10:39:11 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
What is funny is that Ive said this since the man came to Charlotte and everyone was like no way, Delhomme is awesome. Now everyone sees the light and outside Smith he is NOTHING. 11/26/2006 10:42:12 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Finally someone had a game plan for Steve Smith! The Giants and Bears let him go deep single-covered, seeming to have no idea, just no idea at all, that Smith is the league's leading receiver. On Sunday, the Seahawks had two and sometimes three gentlemen around Smith. He was jammed off the line. There was always a safety on his side when he went deep. Usually there was a linebacker beneath him so he couldn't run the quick slant or catch the hitch screen. The Seahawks played football's first box-and-one defense! Naturally Smith was shut down, proving he is a member of genus Homo, not a space alien. Seattle's box-and-one advanced the Seahawks to the Super Bowl, but left two questions. First, why didn't the Giants and Bears game-plan for Smith? This remains quite mysterious. Second, when the Hawks were doubling or tripling Smith, who was open? Somebody from the Panthers had to be open -- and that somebody did not find the ball fluttering his way." |
11/26/2006 10:47:14 PM |
lafta All American 14880 Posts user info edit post |
i always knew he was good and bad, you cant build a superbowl team around delhomme but having a bad front line make it alot harder 11/26/2006 11:03:18 PM |
Maverick1024 All American 4866 Posts user info edit post |
has anyone ever noticed how Delhomme RARELY if ever changes the play at the line of scrimmage or signals a hot route to his receivers (besides the overran '0' route)? To me, it seems like he has a really hard time figuring out coverages and goes to the line with one play and one receiver in his mind, and he doesn't consider change whatsoever. not good for the leader of the offense 11/26/2006 11:31:09 PM |
billyboy All American 3174 Posts user info edit post |
Amato or Trestman must have given the Panthers a pre-game speech today. That's the only explanation I could come up with on why they played so bad. 11/26/2006 11:43:13 PM |
jnpaul All American 9807 Posts user info edit post |
^ have you not watched the other games the panthers have played this season
the same thing has been going on the whole year 11/27/2006 12:01:16 AM |
jman912 All American 1933 Posts user info edit post |
Jake's been incredibly inconsistent his entire time in Charlotte. Unfortunately this season he's settled more into the "consistently horrible" end of the spectrum.
Every QB in the league except Peyton and Tony Romo would KILL to have Steve Smith and Keyshawn Johnson lined up on the outside. If the QB makes the reads and the throws with those guys, we're in the top 5 in the league in passing offense and total offense. 11/27/2006 8:38:47 AM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Every QB in the league except Peyton and Tony Romo would KILL to have Steve Smith and Keyshawn Johnson lined up on the outside." |
first of all, let me say that I agree that Jake isn't exactly lighting up the scoreboard this year, but it's much more than him.
1. Henning's play calling is terrible.....when I can accurately predict 2 straight running plays on 2nd and 3rd downs, late in the game when we need a score, something is and has been very wrong.
2. Smitty and Key are both in double digits in the dropped pass category, and the vast majority of those are on them solely.
3. Jake has taken us to a 2 NFC championship games and one Superbowl in the last 3 years, so I say he's done more for his team than 90% of the QB's in the NFL.
4. His woes go hand in hand with out rushing attack. When the rush is bad, he's forced to press the issue to make things happen.
5. If the D hadn't straight up missed 2 tackles to let Cooley run for over 60 yards for the TD, we wouldn't have been in that must score a TD situation in the first place yesterday.11/27/2006 9:16:18 AM |
ssclark Black and Proud 14179 Posts user info edit post |
henning knows more about football than you do ..
secondly with "pass" play and "run play" to choose from ... it's moderately not hard to guess what's coming 11/27/2006 9:18:32 AM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "henning knows more about football than you do " |
Fo' Sho', but he has a habit of making the opposing D coordinator look like a geinus.
Quote : | "secondly with "pass" play and "run play" to choose from ... it's moderately not hard to guess what's coming" |
Oh yea, running up the gut twice on 2nd/long and 3rd/long w/ less that 4:00 left and needing a TD is sound strategery. 11/27/2006 9:48:02 AM |
ssclark Black and Proud 14179 Posts user info edit post |
why exactly do you think they ran in those situations ? there is a reason I promise you. 11/27/2006 9:50:02 AM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
Is that an excuse?.....there is a reason for everything. I'm not saying there wasn't a reason they did it, it was just a very, very bad one. 11/27/2006 9:59:03 AM |
ssclark Black and Proud 14179 Posts user info edit post |
it wasn't a bad one, and you're still not seeing why they did it
still doesn't excuse jake sucking :x
[Edited on November 27, 2006 at 10:01 AM. Reason : safv] 11/27/2006 10:00:58 AM |
BiggzsIII All American 5016 Posts user info edit post |
Ok, I am starting to be convinced that We need to have another starting QB next year...unless Delhomme turns it around and has a suprisingly great late season. Our O-line pretty much sucks too...how do we keep losing OL like pocket change? Damn...
III 11/27/2006 10:03:39 AM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
I imagine they were thinking about running time off the clock, so there wouldn't be time for the skins to go back and score again, but if they don't score first, it's a moot point.
furthermore, you have addressed only one of my points. Like I said, I agree Jake is much less than great this year, but our situation can by no means be blamed solely on him. 11/27/2006 10:06:01 AM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Ok, I am starting to be convinced that We need to have another starting QB next year.... Our O-line pretty much sucks too" |
Our O-line, like Jake and our whole team, comes out one week and gives a great performance.....only to come out the next week to look like they're straight from high school. Our inconsistency is the thing that drives me crazy, one never knows what to expect.
as far as o-line and QB, a shitty O-line can make a great QB look like a rookie and vise versa.
[Edited on November 27, 2006 at 10:11 AM. Reason : .]11/27/2006 10:10:39 AM |
Saddamizer Suspended 5294 Posts user info edit post |
new motto:
Win or Weinke 11/27/2006 10:21:24 AM |
BiggzsIII All American 5016 Posts user info edit post |
^^Agreed, but our O-line has yet to be consistent for 2 years and seemingly always falters and suffers severe injuries. Our QB this year, def is not great, and I think still can be an effective QB...but with our O-line the way it is, we need a QB that manuever outside the pocket...
If Jake can right the ship and win some games the latter part of the season, and get into playoffs and win a couple games...I will retract my statement
III
[Edited on November 27, 2006 at 10:41 AM. Reason : ^] 11/27/2006 10:24:17 AM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
^^i can get on board with that......I've always thought weinke was a pretty good QB, he was just put in a very shitty situation during the 1-15 year. Dumb ass Seifert stuck a QB, whose strongest asset was throwing down field, into a West Coast scheme. (not to mention ideally you want at least a semi mobile QB for west coast. That is not weinke.)
[Edited on November 27, 2006 at 10:26 AM. Reason : .] 11/27/2006 10:26:07 AM |
eleusis All American 24527 Posts user info edit post |
the difference between the panthers 3 years ago and the panthers of today is having a O-line and a punter on steroids. Sauerbrun had more to do with the field position game than the rest of the offense did. 11/27/2006 10:52:31 AM |
tmmercer All American 2290 Posts user info edit post |
Speaking of punts...did anyone see bakers 70 yarder yesterday?...It actually went farther but went into the endzone. 11/27/2006 11:37:12 AM |
VitorBelfort All American 6538 Posts user info edit post |
BRANG BACK THAT NEGRO RODNEY PEETE 11/27/2006 11:38:59 AM |
bob loblaw New Recruit 11 Posts user info edit post |
what we really need is a new offensive coord. Dan Henning sucks. No more draw plays on 3rd and long please. 11/27/2006 12:05:13 PM |
lafta All American 14880 Posts user info edit post |
i agree, fire henning, and when was the last time you saw delhomme run the ball with all the times he cant find a reciever he should have atleast a couple of runs but no he's just not good enough 11/27/2006 12:42:13 PM |
kbncsufan All American 1504 Posts user info edit post |
Delhomme is the Jay Davis of the NFL he just has more receiver talent so it makes him look a little better; exact same player though; will look good for a while and then commit just an insanely horrible turnover
carolina needs to draft a good qb imo and build him up but they can't b/c they do too well in the reg. season every year to get a top 3 qb in the draft 11/27/2006 12:45:22 PM |
BeerzNBikes All American 3736 Posts user info edit post |
^We are gonna draft TE or LB almost for sure with our first two picks.
Quote : | "the difference between the panthers 3 years ago and the panthers of today is having a O-line and a punter on steroids. " |
Baker isnt a bad punter at all and not having Dan Morgan / Witherspoon hurts too; cooley would never have had a TD on that pass if morgan was on the field. He would have a concussion from it, but he would have had that bastard down.11/27/2006 1:38:59 PM |
TaterSalad All American 6256 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "He would have a concussion from it, but he would have had that bastard down. " |
hahahaha, good call11/27/2006 1:45:40 PM |
beamerhud All American 503 Posts user info edit post |
49 11/27/2006 2:01:51 PM |