Hey guys I am looking to give my kitty to a loving person who will take care of her and even send me occasional updates and was wondering if a wolf webber would want to give her a good home. She is almost 3 years old and is a very sweet cat. The only reason I want to get rid of her is because I have a one year old lil girl now who I just don't want getting into the litter box Her name is FRED...a friend thought it was hilarious for a girl cat to have a boy name but of course you can rename her...lol She is very loving and doesn't bite or scratch. She is not FIXED! I love her dearly and just want to see her go to a good home. I thought about getting her fixed and letting her roam around outside but was afraid about have her fixed when she is as old as she is and the cost so if ya have any credible info. about that I would like to hear that too!
Here are some pics...the first one is from when she was a kitten and the second was earlier this year.

12/19/2006 11:01:44 PM

cute!

but... why not just put the litter box in an area that your kid can't get too? like a laundry room or other small area with a baby gate in the door. baby gates were pretty much invented for this, and cats can definitely jump over them. then when the kid is old enough to understand that litter box=bad you can take it down.

12/20/2006 12:43:51 AM

Well our house is not very big and we don't have an area like that I can corner off with a baby gate that the cat can get into and my lil girl can't. I wish I could. I even thought about getting a litter box with the top things on them but I have seen and been shown pics of another kid crawlin in the litter box and well that is just gross I really am at a loss for ideas. I love my cat but don't want to turn around and she my lil girl with poop stickin' out her mouth or in the litter box period...lol! I would be willing to get her fixed and let her be an outdoor cat if that was still a possiblity and if I could find an affordable way to fix her if that is still an option.

12/20/2006 12:53:05 AM

The SPCA will help you fix her if your income is below 50k. I think its 57USD to get girls done, but the table is on the following link, along with all the required info:

http://www.spcawake.org/spay.html

12/20/2006 3:31:01 AM

This is an easy fix. You need to put the litter box 3 feet off the ground somewhere. Usually by a dryer or something. My relatives ran into the same problem and that solved it.

12/20/2006 7:29:16 AM

you can also use a closet. block the door(s) so that only a cat can get through, you can always put shelves in the closet to put stuff on.

12/20/2006 8:15:20 AM

We build a little room for our cat outdoors and put a "doggie door" that is actually made for cats to go outside in.. this is where our litter box is stored.. we have a 1 year old boy..

works great

12/20/2006 8:56:31 AM

although i recognize the dangers of a child eating kitty litter and what not, but this isn't a great reason for getting rid of your pet. Try and build something off the ground like others have suggested, there must be a better way than to get rid of her... if you really care about the cat.

12/20/2006 12:14:30 PM

in addition to an upper place, you could try one of these:
http://www.petsmart.com/global/product_detail.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524441807400&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302023690&ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=2534374302023690&bmUID=1166723587595&itemNo=12&Nao=12&Ntt=litter&In=Cat&previousText=litter&N=2023690

it's a top entry litter pan and our cats at home use it just fine

12/21/2006 1:31:01 PM

she's darling!! try to work out the litterbox situation-- sounds like you can solve your problem without much trouble

12/21/2006 6:47:25 PM

FRED---WHAT A GREAT NAME FOR A GIRL CAT, much better than Buttons.

I hate that you're giving her up, I know you love that cat. I would take her if I wasn't so damned allergic to cats.

Please contact Nic about this cat, she really is great.

12/21/2006 9:20:25 PM

user: treznor

Quote :

"Well our house is not very big and we don't have an area like that I can corner off with a baby gate that the cat can get into and my lil girl can't"

not enough room in the downward spiral?

12/21/2006 10:15:53 PM

please don't make her an outdoor cat...

12/21/2006 10:42:23 PM

She doesn't know what it is like to live outside. You cannot just throw her out there. Low cost spay. Get her fixed- do not contribute to pet over population.

http://www.pop-nc.com/services.htm
http://animalkind.org/caesar.html
http://www.snap-nc.org/

12/22/2006 10:11:15 AM

second the litterbox on the dryer


lazy......

12/22/2006 2:12:19 PM

wow what a weak reason to get rid of a cat

news flash: babies need to be exposed to objects in the world so that they develop antibodies and shit so that they can survive

did you plan on watching your child? if so, there should be no problem with the baby and the cat co-existing

12/22/2006 6:58:35 PM

I watch my child everyday! Maybe when you have kids you would understand Aficionado I am not afraid of exposing my child to different things but cat feces is very dangerous to kids and pregnant mothers therefore it is a risk I am not willing to take sorry that you can't comprehend. For those of you that want the litterbox on the dryer...The dryer is not in the main portion of the house it is on the back porch therefore not allowing the cat to get to it! jenbncsu next time if you read the post before posting you will see that I will not put her outside unless the cat is fixed therefore not contributing to over population...I don't want 50 freakin cats. As for the enclosed cat litter thing...I have tried something similar and she pisses in it but shit outside of it so this is a NO GO!
I was just givin wolfwebbers the first crack at her because I know lots of you guys love pets and this would allow me to check on her from time to time but if people are just going to be rude as usual I see no use in this. If anyone is interested in her sincerely please pm me she is an awesome cat.

12/30/2006 9:55:30 PM

Such a sad delimma Your kitty is beautiful & I wish I had an easy remedy for you. Is there not a way to elevate the litter box somewhere without it being on the dryer(since it is not accessible)? If I could help I certainly would-- I want a kitty so badly but my roommate is allergic, and I'm not at a place to be able to give a cat a proper permanent home.

I hope things work out, or that you find Fred a nice new home Best wishes.
[see, not all wolfwebbers are mean ]

12/31/2006 1:58:43 AM

Thank you ncsukat you renewed my faith prolly until the next person on here posts...lmao Also thank you absolutapril for trying to help me out since I got the kitty through you anyways and you can vouch for how cool she is Her hubby is the one who named the kitty Fred...lol

1/2/2007 9:00:33 PM

bttt...plz someone has to want a sweet kitty. I really need to get rid of her! I would much rather her goto a good home then give her to a shelter. Anybody know any good shelters???

2/26/2007 12:56:08 AM

this is sad.

i have a kid, and a dog, a pit bull mix. ive had the dog for 5 years. my kid is now 2 1/2, and him and the dog are best friends. i cant imagine having to get rid of the dog.

my brother has a kid, and an indoor cat litterbox and all. he's had the cat for 5 years. his kid is now 2 1/2 also. the kid and the cat get along wonderfully. the kid never ate cat litter or cat shit.

i hope you'll rethink abandoning your poor cat. research proves that having pets with children is all around beneficial to the kid. not only does the kid learn to love and care for and respect animals, but they also develop stronger immune systems due to the constant presence of the animal.

2/26/2007 1:08:25 AM

I can't take your cat because I have too many animals... but I keep my litter box behind one of those short plastic stackable drawers right outside of my bathroom... the litter box has a hood on it though. it gives open access to the litter box, keeps the smell down because it has a hood on it, and keeps it out of reach when I am taking care of kids. I figured I'd throw out an option since I cant help you place the cat... good luck with everything!

2/26/2007 1:22:11 AM

so it's been 2 months since you first tried to get rid of your cat due to problems with your kid. you'd think that if it was such a huge problem, you'd have found a way to get rid of it by now...

sorry for hatin on you so much. i don't like when people get pets then find an excuse to get rid of them when they become more work that predicted.

2/26/2007 1:27:34 AM

I have had said cat for 3 years now and it isn't more work than predicted. The cat was also given to me not something that I personally went out n bought or asked for. My child doesn't have a problem with the cat nor does the cat have a problem with her. I agree that having pets is beneficial to kids and would like to have a pet when she is older but not when she is so young. My cat will not use a litter box that is covered in any way shape or form we have tried this as stated before and the cat chooses to piss n shit outside of the litterbox if we do this. I also asked if there was a way to make her an outdoor cat in order to keep her but no one answered me. Also as previously stated our house is not that big n I can't really hide the litter box on top of anything. You guys can hate on me as much as you want but it doesn't change mine and Jason's decision. I never said that we were having problems with the cat n our beautiful baby girl therefore that is why we have continued to hold on to her. We just want her to go to a loving home. If the issue doesn't get resolved soon I will have to find a shelter no matter if you guys agree with our reasoning or not so again I will ask...anyone know of any good shelters???

2/26/2007 8:39:52 PM

A Cat's Tale
6812 Davis Circle Raleigh NC USA
Phone: 919-571-2646 email: adopt@acatstale.org

A Cat's Tale, a 501(c)(3) non-profit cat adoption facility, cares for orphaned cats with temporary shelter and medical services until adopted into a loving home. located in Raleigh, NC.

2/26/2007 9:45:01 PM

potty train your cat

2/26/2007 9:58:41 PM

Ugh you people just don't read. The cat is potty trained as long as the litter box is not covered...meaning the regular old litter box. If you put any cover on the litter box is when the cat doesn't use a litter box. I have tried training her n it doesn't work.

roxy0144 thank you for the info

2/26/2007 10:39:03 PM

I'm not gonna read your 600 paragraph responses to everyone's shit


it aint that hard to train a cat to use the damn toilet

2/26/2007 10:50:13 PM

OK I have to jump into this thread now

I have two kids (3 and 2) and a cat. We've had her since she was a few weeks old - before our first child was born. Covered/uncovered litter box is really for the cat's preference or to keep the cat from scratching walls - it has nothing to do with kids.

Great places that work well for litter boxes:
- utility room (if you have one) ... or just put the box on top of the washer or dryer like someone else said ... sounds like yours is isolated, so perhaps you can install a doggy door? Or if the back porch is climate controlled leave the door open?
- bathroom ... maybe you can get a smaller box to slide against the wall between fixtures if necessary - our cat did that just fine
- closets ... just make sure you get other things (like shoes) off the floor - if you put it in a corner with something like a tupperware tub next to it you can "enclose" it except the front and top
- your bedroom or, if available, another bedroom other than the one your daughter's in (obviously)

MAKE SURE that when you move the litter box, you do it slowly (which doesn't look like an option for you), offer 2 boxes - old and new spots - simultaneously for a couple of weeks, and/or lock the cat in with the new box for 24-48 hours and AWAY from the old spot for a while.

Quote :

"cat feces is very dangerous to kids and pregnant mothers"

This is only partially true -- there are toxins in the cat feces that can cause problems, but it's usually only a "major" concern if the mother was not exposed to cats at a young age. Not sure on the details. This is an easy fix: Mom doesn't clean the box while pregnant. The kid does need to be exposed to develop a higher immune system. Kids that grow up in sterile environments turn out to be really sickly later on.

2/26/2007 11:13:03 PM

what about getting a small plastic table or something, just about the same size as the litter box, and heck, even velcro the litter box to the table so when the cat jumps up, it won't knock the litter box off? depending on how young your child is, that should be tall enough to not let them get to it. but if it's a small table, it's about the same size as the litter box so it's not taking up more room than the box already is. just an idea...

2/27/2007 12:04:23 AM

wow.

I'll take the poor cat.

You don't have to justify yourself to me. Just bring her to me, and bring her stuff (her littler box, toys, food, treats, records, etc.)

We've a dog and a cat (used to have 2 cats, this one's brother ran away), and we have a 9 month old. The cat's one of her best friends in the world.

We've got our litter box on the floor, by the back door, in the kitchen corner. I just don't let Melody go play in the litter box...nor does she seem to want to...guess it smells like cat shit to her too :-)

Anyhow, PM me if you're still looking for a home and I'll take her. Even tonight if you'd like.

will.

2/27/2007 12:48:41 AM

^ good for you.


save the poor cat from being abandoned to its death.

i cant stand people like treznor.

2/27/2007 1:02:26 AM

Thanky you to tsl.

Our lil girl is just so damn curious she walks up to it all the time n tries to put her hands in it. She likes picking up all the lil pebbles and tries putting them in her mouth. My exes lil girl used to crawl inside the ones with the covers on them and sit n play in the cat crap n she was 3 years old!!!

ActOfGod thank you for the ideas but unfortunately these will not work. Our utility area is not climate controlled or attached to the house. Our bathroom is too small to put the litter box somewhere that you wouldn't step in it at some point and the cat isn't allowed in the bedrooms which are where are closets are located. We have a very small house...some of you guys prolly have bigger apts. than our house. Also thank you to eahanhan unfortunately I don't think this would work either since our daughter is in the climbing stage and would prolly try to climb up on the table and end up turning it over on top of her which would kinda defeat the purpose. joe_schmoe She would never have been abandoned to her death...I would not have let that happen to her I love the cat too much for that hence the reason I would have taken her to a NONKILL shelter or trying to find her a home myself which I have been trying to do for over 6 months now. You can be as holier-than-thou as you want and ot to agree with the decision that Jason and I have made...I really don't care.

2/27/2007 10:33:44 AM

Quote :

"Ugh you people just don't read. The cat is potty trained as long as the litter box is not covered...meaning the regular old litter box. If you put any cover on the litter box is when the cat doesn't use a litter box. I have tried training her n it doesn't work."

i think you're the one not reading...i'm pretty sure they literally meant to train the cat to use the TOILET...not the litter box. this is easily done.

i feel so bad for the cat. pets are a lifetime commitment.

2/27/2007 11:02:14 AM

this is an easy problem to fix but obviously you don't care enough to try. i feel sorry for your kid too if this is how easily you give up and how poorly you plan for your future.

too late to edit post

2/27/2007 11:41:38 AM

Okay this is stupid.
You won't listen to anyone's suggestions - you immediately discount them and I bet you haven't even tried to make this work. You're horrified of the POSSIBILITY that your daughter MIGHT get into the catbox so you immediately think it's best to just get rid of the cat. I know you're not going to give it to a shelter where it will meet it's doom but this is just a piss poor reason to get rid of a cat.

Maybe you should have thought things through before you decided to have a kid.

2/27/2007 11:45:01 AM

lol you're responsible enough to take care of a child but not a cat's litter box



that's irony


or maybe that's just what's wrong with america

2/27/2007 12:35:51 PM

you can train a cat to use a toilet?? please explain!!

2/27/2007 2:22:21 PM

you move the litter box gradually towards the toilet, then put it on the toilet (make sure your cat is continuing to use the litter box as it moves to the different locations) and then remove the box once your cat is used to the idea. And if you praise and reward your cat when she does go in the toilet, it reinforces it even more. Some people even make litter boxes that fit in your toilet bowl as a training tool. I trained my cat to do it when she was little

2/27/2007 2:47:58 PM

erp

[Edited on February 27, 2007 at 2:58 PM. Reason : nm]

2/27/2007 2:48:21 PM

i am definitely going to try this haha.

2/27/2007 2:55:39 PM

how much will this cat go in the asian market... if its over 20.. i'll take it off your hands

2/27/2007 2:56:00 PM

^^^ My mom trained cats and dogs to use the toilet, and the dogs even flushed. They were German Shepherds, though, so smarter than the average yapdog. My cat refused to use the covered litter box at first, so we rubbed her nose in her own shit when she went outside it and cleaned it up with smell-eraser to make her stop. Being nice doesn't work with cats, since they will only do what they want to do. Since my brother got lazy with cleaning the box, we got an automatic one that cleans itself 5 minutes after the cat leaves. At first Duchess was scared of it, but she refused to go anywhere she couldn't cover it, so she eventually got used to it. Cats greatly dislike being dirty and not covering their shit, so they will always go back to the litter box unless they were feral in a bad house.

Yes, this does seem to be a big problem in America. Cats are the #1 most popular pet in America, yet very few people seem willing to take care of them. As soon as a kid pops up, the cat is discarded to a "good home" like recycled toys. It's bad for the cat and for the child. My mother certainly never got rid of her dog Quasar when she had me, she just made sure he wouldn't hurt the kids. I grew up healthy and with a love of pets. People should treat their cats like they do thier dogs, like children, even though cats seem more independant. The poor cat will probably have abandonment issues the rest of her life and may grow to hate children. Also, they make litter that isn't as dangerous for kids like yours who insist on eating it. When the child gets in the litter, smack it, discipline it like you would a dog getting into the trash. Eventually it learns, albeit more slowly than the dog, and then there will be no more problems. The issue is not with the cat having a litter box for the child to get into, it is a child that would get into the litter.

2/27/2007 3:16:32 PM

my old roommate had a cat that would go in the toilet, and she'd flush afterwards too.

2/27/2007 3:30:05 PM

I have two children ( 2 year old and 3 month old)...we have had our cats since before the kids were born. The cats love our kids and the kids love the cats. Our two year old would be lost without one of our cats. They are best friends. We have a teeny apartment with just 5 rooms (bathroom, 2 incredibly small bedrooms, living room, kitchen). That said, not once has my son tried to get into the litter box. Even when he was just crawling, he never got into it. He looked at it once and I told him it was the kitty's potty and was nasty and to never touch it, and he hasn't. Your kid will listen to you, it's really not that hard. Keep an eye on her and tell her up front not to touch it. If she goes near it, tell her no and just pop her hand. I'd be willing to bet that in less than a week she will willingly avoid it. I'm not putting you down for trying to do what is best for your child, but you really should reconsider.

Also, the whole "cat poop is lethal to pregnant women and young children" thing is only partially true. You shouldn't be exposed to cat poop when you are pregnant because of the risk of toxemia. Pregnant women are at risk for passing it on to their unborn fetus. Most people have been exposed to the germs earlier and have developed immunities to it. However, if the germs pass through the placenta due to exposure during pregnancy, it can have devastating effects on the fetus. After the baby is born, there is no more concern as far as toxemia goes.

You're going to do what you want no matter what and I realized that, but having a young child and a cat at the same time is doable. Good luck no matter what.

[Edited on February 27, 2007 at 5:03 PM. Reason : y]

2/27/2007 5:00:35 PM

Someone has offered to take the cat n she will be going to live with them...thank you for all the suggestions from the people that meant well. As for training her to go in a covered litter box by putting her nose in her shit...been there n done that with no luck. You can say that we didn't try the suggestions all you want but the truth of the matter is that Jason and I tried many thing...more than people have suggested here and nothing worked either for the cat or for what we thought was reasonable having our daughter near the box. Also about slapping her on the hand and telling her NO...I don't agree with slapping her on the hand at such a young age and no matter how many times we tell her NO or remove her away from the litter box she just tried to go back to it.

Thank you that had real suggestions and thanks to others who are respecting our decision.

2/27/2007 9:31:20 PM